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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:41 AM May 2016

Liberal media turns on Sanders

Liberal media turns on Sanders
By Niall Stanage - 05/19/16 06:00 AM EDT

Bernie Sanders is suddenly facing a barrage of criticism from liberal commentators.

As the fallout from last weekend’s Nevada Democratic convention spreads, sharply critical pieces about the White House hopeful and his campaign have appeared in progressive outlets such as Mother Jones, Talking Points Memo and Daily Kos within the past 48 hours.

The Sanders campaign has also taken hits from progressive CNN contributor Sally Kohn, who endorsed the Vermont senator from the stage at a massive rally in New York City just before the Empire State’s April primary.

Kohn wrote an article published Wednesday for Time magazine that was headlined, “I felt the Bern but the Bros are extinguishing the flames.”

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/280453-liberal-media-turns-on-sanders
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Liberal media turns on Sanders (Original Post) workinclasszero May 2016 OP
... Her Sister May 2016 #1
Move over please.. Cha May 2016 #13
LOL! Her Sister May 2016 #16
I know, right? Cha May 2016 #19
The wheels came off and sanders has nothing left but spite... beachbumbob May 2016 #2
Agree 100% workinclasszero May 2016 #3
Bingo! Little Star May 2016 #17
Yep. They thought the old back bench socialist wouldn't do much stopbush May 2016 #33
The convention in Philly workinclasszero May 2016 #35
I think the DNC is already planning on how they will deal with the worst-case situation stopbush May 2016 #37
LOL workinclasszero May 2016 #38
I think it would be more correct to refer to them as nihilists. fleabiscuit May 2016 #39
Even Salon's fever broke briefly enough to post a rational Sanders criticism today. BobbyDrake May 2016 #4
Yes I noticed they put out a few pro Hillary things lately workinclasszero May 2016 #5
Too late. I read Salon for over 10 years, until last year when they made it clear... BobbyDrake May 2016 #8
Totally agree. workinclasszero May 2016 #14
Totally agree about Salon SharonClark May 2016 #20
Huffington Post has the same problem. There's something too samey about their pro-Bernie writers... BobbyDrake May 2016 #23
The home of HA Goodman! workinclasszero May 2016 #26
You mean HA-HA Goodman? nt Jamaal510 May 2016 #46
Thats it! workinclasszero May 2016 #48
bwahahahaha Haveadream May 2016 #41
Don't get me started with Paglia SharonClark May 2016 #22
Oh, I know. LisaM May 2016 #43
I Felt the Bern But the Bros Are Extinguishing the Flames ~ Time magazine Her Sister May 2016 #6
I've thought that they were alike since about last October. LisaM May 2016 #44
K & R Koinos May 2016 #7
Just heard on CNN Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #9
burnie continues making bad decisions.. what do they expect? Cha May 2016 #10
Can I just say Haveadream May 2016 #42
Why thank you, Haveadream~ Cha May 2016 #45
It's about time. kstewart33 May 2016 #11
His clueless supporters should have vetted him as well. SharonClark May 2016 #21
K&R! stonecutter357 May 2016 #12
The anger sanders has tapped into is extreme left wing and the young ignorant supporters... beachbumbob May 2016 #15
I think it's a sign that Bernie will lose a HUUUGE amount of political power... Walk away May 2016 #18
The intent will be to disrupt the convention...and sanders weak leadership beachbumbob May 2016 #24
If that's what has to happen to show Liberal Democrats and Independents just how... Walk away May 2016 #30
Sanders has no desire to stop the chaos. Blue Idaho May 2016 #32
K&R! DemonGoddess May 2016 #25
Finally! Haveadream May 2016 #27
The press has only just started to put the spotlight on Bernie griffi94 May 2016 #29
Yes. At this point, the media still asks him questions about his supposed policies, stopbush May 2016 #36
There is no liberal media! jpmonk91 May 2016 #28
Its easier to say liberal media... fleabiscuit May 2016 #40
About time, he has been demonstrating that he is not a progressive liberal N proud May 2016 #31
As they should. It's one thing to have out of control supporters, but not to denounce them, really? eastwestdem May 2016 #34
About time! Kicked and recommended! Stand and Fight May 2016 #47
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
2. The wheels came off and sanders has nothing left but spite...
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:48 AM
May 2016

and fanning the flames of chaos at our convention...he is turning out to be the angry old socialist leading a mob of anarchists....with little for democrats, liberals and progressives to do about it as he launches a full scale destruction of the Democratic Party.....that will be caught 24/7 on cable news....

Just saying...this is what happens when we allow a lifelong socialist into our primary system....a man who has done little for democrats except use them

stopbush

(24,392 posts)
33. Yep. They thought the old back bench socialist wouldn't do much
Thu May 19, 2016, 03:51 PM
May 2016

but talk about social justice and would allow the DNC to look inclusive, so they let him run.

They didn't notice the Molotov cocktail that had "Democratic Party" written on it that he had in his back pocket.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
35. The convention in Philly
Thu May 19, 2016, 03:59 PM
May 2016

is the bernie revolutions last stand.

Do you think they will just follow the rules, endorse Hillary and fade away?

I don't.

stopbush

(24,392 posts)
37. I think the DNC is already planning on how they will deal with the worst-case situation
Thu May 19, 2016, 04:06 PM
May 2016

and will act accordingly.

If that means putting Sanders speech on at 3am and taking the TV cameras out of the room, well, so be it.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
4. Even Salon's fever broke briefly enough to post a rational Sanders criticism today.
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:53 AM
May 2016

I didn't believe it until I saw it.
http://www.salon.com/2016/05/18/sorry_bernie_i_love_you_but_this_is_over_and_getting_embarrassing/

Of course, they still employ Camille Paglia unironically, leader of the Fake Progressives for Trump movement, so there's still much work to be done...

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
5. Yes I noticed they put out a few pro Hillary things lately
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:56 AM
May 2016

They are just reading tea leaves. Some one there must of done the not bernie math LOL

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
8. Too late. I read Salon for over 10 years, until last year when they made it clear...
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:05 PM
May 2016

...that HRC supporters were not welcome any more. They grabbed the tiger's tail of the Bernie hysteria and can't figure out how to let go yet.

This whole primary exposed a dangerous, and frankly disappointing, strain of anti-intellectualism and reality-denialism among supposed leftists and alleged progressives. It's been quite the education for me, learning that people I thought were allies don't think of me that way. I don't want to associate with "progressives" who malign women, who harass and dox them, who shout women down when they try to speak. Nor with "progressives" who dismiss black voters based on where they live, or older voters just for being older. Those are not progressive values.

And Salon has been at the head of that faux-Left movement, along with HuffPo and every other site dumb it desperate enough to publish The Libertarian HA Goodman. It's far too late to pretend like it never happened.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
14. Totally agree.
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:10 PM
May 2016

Salon can go to hell along with all the so-called progressives who think death threats against children are an acceptable campaign tactic!

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
20. Totally agree about Salon
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:48 PM
May 2016

When the only qualifications for your "reporters" is that they be young, politically inexperienced, and from the Sanders campaign, then you lose all credibility.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
23. Huffington Post has the same problem. There's something too samey about their pro-Bernie writers...
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:15 PM
May 2016

...but I can't white put my finger on it just yet.

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
43. Oh, I know.
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:21 PM
May 2016

Someone posted a piece of absolute drivel by Camille Paglia a month or so ago and then complained that people disparaged her in the responses.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
6. I Felt the Bern But the Bros Are Extinguishing the Flames ~ Time magazine
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:02 PM
May 2016
http://time.com/4339865/bernie-sanders-supporters-violence/

Very good!

Excerpt:

It’s also too easy to suggest that Sanders’ supporters are a different kind of angry than Trump’s. Are we entirely sure about that? The populist right may be more inclined toward misogyny and xenophobia, but the populist left is not immune from these afflictions. And as I’ve written before, when you see progressive white men—many of whom enthusiastically supported Barack Obama’s candidacy—hate Clinton with every fiber of their being despite the fact that she’s a carbon copy of Obama’s ideology (or in fact now running slightly to his left), it’s hard to find any other explanation than sexism. Either way, the brutish, boorish behavior of Bernie Bros (and their female compatriots, too) was a huge reason I was reluctant to seemingly side with them in endorsing Sanders—and has been the only reason I have ever questioned my decision to do so since.

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
44. I've thought that they were alike since about last October.
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:26 PM
May 2016

Now I'm adding in that I'm thinking that in some cases, the violence at the Trump rallies was, at least some of the time, initiated by the fringe of the Sanders crowd.

What makes me absolutely angry over it all is that I have a lot of friends and family who support him and this is letting them down. I have one friend in particular, a lot younger than I am, who has gone out campaigning, gone to the caucuses, got appointed an alternate delegate, and so forth, when he previously was pretty disengaged from politics. I'm not going to get into a conversation with him about it because I feel for him (I don't think he realizes yet how deeply Sanders' good ideas are being so completely betrayed), but I hate to see people who were honestly excited by the candidacy caught in this bowl of muck. The people I know are completely not violent and would never shout a planned speaker off the stage at a convention and now they have to be associated with this.

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
9. Just heard on CNN
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:07 PM
May 2016

Bernie plans on ratcheting up attacks and fully intends on hurting Hillary. I think we should too. I think we should expose his Singapore trips.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
10. burnie continues making bad decisions.. what do they expect?
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:08 PM
May 2016

I am so grateful that he's showing the world what many of us have known for so long.

He's been getting away with his crap for far too long.. maybe that's why he feels he can continue and no one can touch him?

We'll see about that.

Markos Moulitsas of the Daily Kos, who is a columnist for The Hill, was among the most emphatic critics of the statement, describing it as “an utter disgrace” and complaining that Sanders gave too much prominence to talking points and not enough to his condemnation of violence, which appeared in the third paragraph of the statement.

I applaud Kos for strongly speaking out Against BS..

Money quote from Sally Kohn..

Reflecting on the events in Nevada and the aftermath, Kohn said there was too much equivocation for her tastes in Sanders’s response.

“There is always a but — ‘But they’re passionate; but it’s rigged,’ ” she said.

“Has he done everything he can to truly distance himself from this kind of behavior in the full sense of moral leadership? I don’t think he has.

Nice and refreshing to see a big ol dose of reality coming from a former BS fan.

Thank you, working~

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
42. Can I just say
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:12 PM
May 2016

I love how you refer to him as Burnie. It is so apropos and hilarious. I may have to steal it because it is just too perfect!











Cha

(296,848 posts)
45. Why thank you, Haveadream~
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:52 PM
May 2016

It's all on burnie, though.. that's the only way I can write his name.. what with all the bridges he's burned and everything he's done to his lose self-respect.

Be my guest~

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
21. His clueless supporters should have vetted him as well.
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:50 PM
May 2016

Sanders is all finger pointing and no substance.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
15. The anger sanders has tapped into is extreme left wing and the young ignorant supporters...
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:11 PM
May 2016

Why sanders fails with voters over 45.....he had a choice to accept defeat and ratchet down his rhetoric....but chose not to...continuing to fan the flame of chaos at our convention...his intent is clear...his mob out of control....and July convention will be a repeat oh 1968 Chicago...with little to be done to stop it.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
18. I think it's a sign that Bernie will lose a HUUUGE amount of political power...
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:17 PM
May 2016

after the D.C. primary. Once the votes are officially counted and Hillary has the majority of delegates and votes, Bernie will have a month of waiting around as his campaign deflates.

I think the plan was to steal as many pledged delegates as possible at the state conventions but....the stupid, violent fiasco his campaign waged at the Nevada convention has put an end to that bullshit going forward. Hillary is on to it and she out maneuvered them by being better prepared and smarter!

Plus, the horrible threats the Bernie Bros made to Roberta Lange have probably rated the FBI being involved. Bernie better be very careful about what he tells his hot headed campaigners to say to Delegates going forward.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
30. If that's what has to happen to show Liberal Democrats and Independents just how...
Thu May 19, 2016, 02:35 PM
May 2016

ridiculous Bernie and his supporters are, then so be it. I think if Bernie wants to go out with a bang he is going to let them do it. Hopefully, no one gets hurt or, if they do, the damage is limited to the violent protesters and all of the Delegates, Press and Law Enforcement stay safe.

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
27. Finally!
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:46 PM
May 2016

The media is finally beginning to actually criticize Bernie. There is little doubt his supporters will be crushed under the weight of a negative press because he has been handled with kid gloves thus far. They are desensitized to the onslaught of negative, actually vile press Hillary is subjected to but now will now have just a minuscule taste of the antagonism she has endured for decades. He and his supporters are being revealed to be so out of their depth, it is ridiculous.

In addition to his lack of composure or having a temperament to be leader of the free world, Bernie suffers from a disturbing moral relativism that causes him to condone violence if it serves to advance what he sees as his righteous cause. His situational ethics are being called out by everyone at this point and if he and his supporters were smart, they would unequivocally denounce it. But he won't because he lacks the character to do so.


I predict he will be unable to stay calm or on message and will become even more hostile to the press, the party and the "establishment". He may have been a politician for decades but he is reacting like a rookie on the public stage. If you can't handle the heat without a tantrum, global politics may not be the best fit for your skills. If he needs examples on the way to behave with grace under fire, he would do well to learn from President Obama and soon-to-be President, Hillary Clinton.


griffi94

(3,733 posts)
29. The press has only just started to put the spotlight on Bernie
Thu May 19, 2016, 02:05 PM
May 2016

And already the dudebros are shrieking like banshees.

Bernie was never in control of the more militant bros.

He has however really been ramping them up.

I can't wait til this over and the senate Democrats
strip him of his committee assignments.

Mess with the bull. Get the horns.
Politics aint beanbag.

stopbush

(24,392 posts)
36. Yes. At this point, the media still asks him questions about his supposed policies,
Thu May 19, 2016, 04:04 PM
May 2016

and dotes on him for coming so far.

But once it's over, any coverage will be about how he lost to Hillary, and how much the behavior of the Bros was responsible for his loss, and - more importantly - how HE egged on his Bros to commit the acts of violence and intolerance they displayed during the campaign.

Even Nixon got a chance to rehabilitate himself to the public, but I don't see that happening for Sanders, who has turned out to be nothing more than a self-centered asshole. At least Nixon got some good things done, like opening up China, creating the EPA and eventually ending the war in Nam. More important, Nixon wasn't a milquetoast communist (or socialist - it doesn't matter what you call Sanders. Americans don't know the difference) who verbally tried to destroy his Party, even though - like Sanders - he felt that everyone was against him.

No, Americans will not look fondly on Sanders going forward. In fact, once the reality of Hillary's presidency sinks in and the Ds are back in control of the Senate, the country will get back to the important business that the Rs have been blocking for the past 6 years. The SCOTUS will be put on a decades-long progressive path, the ACA will be tweaked, college tuition will be addressed (my daughter actually thinks Hillary's plan is much better than Sanders' "free" fantasy) and the name Bernie Sanders will remind people of unruly crowds of misogynistic white boys who deep down couldn't stand that they weren't going to get free cell phones along with that free college and healthcare Sanders promised.

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
40. Its easier to say liberal media...
Thu May 19, 2016, 05:42 PM
May 2016

than to say 'the newstainment that advertises more to the saps that self describe as leaning to the left of the mythical political left-right spectrum.'

liberal N proud

(60,332 posts)
31. About time, he has been demonstrating that he is not a progressive
Thu May 19, 2016, 02:43 PM
May 2016

Socialists, Liberal either...

Making the proclamation that he intends to do harm to Hillary ahead of the convention should bring the full reign of the power the media has on him.

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
34. As they should. It's one thing to have out of control supporters, but not to denounce them, really?
Thu May 19, 2016, 03:53 PM
May 2016

Isn't that written somewhere in 'political candidate 101'?

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