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StayFrosty

(237 posts)
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:12 PM May 2016

If you don't think Bernie Sanders has been bad for the Democratic party

Just look at the cesspit that is GD-P.

Conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory....peppered with some subtle misogyny, links to the Washington Free Beacon, Judicial Watch, links to articles by Andrew Napolitano..... Joe Scarborough praised for his "honesty" and for exposing that evil witch.

They have even begun to turn on President Obama too.

I have nothing against Senator Sanders, he has a good message. We should work towards Single payer and a $15 minimum wage...but when he goes on his stump speech painting Hillary and the Democratic Party as everything that is wrong with America...it will have consequences.

When he tells his supporters that everything is rigged against them, we get the current status of the GD-P forum.

This is very different than 2008...while it was a very intense primary, President Obama and Hillary kept it solely focused on the issues instead of one painting the other as a corrupt establishment politician.

I am seriously beginning to think these people don't give a flying **** about Immigrant rights, LGBT rights, the Supreme Court, or the Affordable care act.

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Tommy2Tone

(1,307 posts)
2. Sorry I have a lot against Bernie
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:22 PM
May 2016

He could have tried to calm the water but instead he threw gasoline on the flames and to raise campaign dollars.

TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
3. Yeah, but they're not really representative of anything.
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:25 PM
May 2016

I think we get a really skewed view of Sanders supporters from DU. In the real world, I think most of them are reasonable people who don't get caught up in every little thing that goes on in the campaign and don't take every tiny thing as a personal affront. I think the disruptors and misogynistic jackasses who threaten Democratic women and their families (and the people who defend them on DU) are a small fraction of his overall supporters.

Plus, I'm convinced that some of the DU Sanders crew are GOP trolls sowing the seeds of division. Some of them are obvious.

No doubt, Sanders isn't helping by ramping up the rhetoric, but I think most of his supporters are already acknowledging that it's over. I think the ones he's ramping up were the same few who were already unhinged.

Saw a poll that said that 72% of Sanders supporters are already on board for November if it's Hillary, and Sanders hasn't even dropped out yet. On DU, it's probably 7%. They're just not representative of reality.

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
8. Most of what you say is true, but
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:13 PM
May 2016

I do have a real problem with people who are Sanders supporters and act as if crap isn't happening or refuse to call out the rhetoric. I am so sick of reading that I am a conservative.

TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
9. Well, they can't acknowledge reality because that would mean that their preconceived notions...
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:34 PM
May 2016

would take a hit. Can't have that.

The shortcuts - everyone to the right of Sanders is a conservative, etc. - are just easier than coming up with actual arguments.

Meanwhile, we have a group of self-professed, ultra-liberal, "progressives" summarily dismissing the concerns of women who are receiving death threats and being called misogynistic names, while saying stuff like "she was asking for it."

And *we're* the conservatives. Uh, huh.

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
10. The conservatives are the clowns quoting Judicial Watch
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:54 PM
May 2016

That is right-wing loony land for sure.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
4. I asked for a nice, simple coronation at beginning of 2015.
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:34 PM
May 2016

But NO..."A primary will make her stronger!"

And here we are...

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
6. Angry...paranoid..Unhappy....old...Socialist....finding hard to reconcile
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:53 PM
May 2016

He has lost....Fanning the flames that the evil system stole it from him....a system he has ranted and raved against for decades...

skylucy

(3,737 posts)
7. Trump has made it very obvious this week that he is going after those types of
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:08 PM
May 2016

Sanders people. I just don't know how many are that far gone that they would actually flip from Bernie to Trump.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
11. He's bad for America... but we will persevere.. just a blip in time.
Sat May 21, 2016, 01:21 AM
May 2016

I don't need to look @ gdp.. I stopped going there last year except for juries.. so I know it has gotten exponentially worse.

Thank Goodness for Kos and his writings and not letting his site wallow in the ******* *****.

StayFrosty~

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
12. anarchists and leftwing extremist taking advantage of an opening that sanders was given by
Sat May 21, 2016, 05:34 AM
May 2016

the democratic party to run in OUR primary for president....in the end....we democrats screwed ourselves and probably America by letting an angry old socialist pass himself off as one of us....he is not....neither are the anarchists and the leftwing version of teaparty

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