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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:58 AM May 2016

Clinton feels no pressure to debate Sanders

Allies of Hillary Clinton say the Democratic front-runner should feel no pressure to appear in another debate against Bernie Sanders.

Sanders accepted an invitation by Fox News earlier this week to take part in an upcoming debate ahead of the California primary. But Clinton, who is 90 delegates away from clinching the Democratic nomination, hasn’t agreed to participate.


Nor should she, allies say.

“There’s nothing to debate,” said one longtime ally and confidante. “There’s nothing new. You can run these debates on loop. The attacks are all the same. And we cannot tolerate his tired, old attacks that continue to disunite the party at a time when it’s supposed to be united.”

A former Clinton aide said Sanders should be allowed to finish campaigning in the primary but he should also give Clinton the space she needs to focus on the general without creating “more friction.”

“It’s basically over,” the former aide said. “He needs to work on uniting the party, not scheduling another debate.”

As of Friday afternoon, there was no word on whether the debate would happen.

Luis Miranda, the communications director at the Democratic National Committee, said officials there “will continue to facilitate negotiations with both candidates.”

The last time the two candidates faced-off was just before the New York primary in April. The two held an at times tense debate, at which Sanders pressed Clinton about releasing transcripts of her speeches to Goldman Sachs.

Democratic strategists said they would be surprised if Clinton agreed to share a debate stage again with Sanders.

“There is no reason for another debate at this stage of the process,” said Jim Manley, a Democratic strategist and Clinton supporter. “We have had enough of them. The only one that would benefit from another is Trump.”

The Sanders camp doesn’t see it that way. This week, campaign manager Jeff Weaver urged Clinton to “make good on her campaign’s commitment “ to agree to a time and place" for the debate.

In February, both the Clinton and Sanders campaigns had agreed to holding debates, including face-offs in Flint, Michigan and California. But a date for the California debate was never scheduled.

“There are issues of enormous importance facing the people of California and our nation and the people of our largest state deserve to hear the Democratic candidates opinions,” Weaver said. But so far, there has been no official movement in the Clinton camp.

A longtime adviser to the Clintons said deciding whether to participate in another debate could be “a tough call.”

Polls taken last month in California show Clinton leading by roughly 10 points, according to Real Clear Politics. Leaders in political races typically have less interest in holding debates than their challengers.

“I don’t think it’s super high risk, as she so often does very well in debates, and it showcases her range of knowledge, experience and steadiness, all of which draw a contrast with Trump, even if he’s not on stage,” the longtime adviser said.

But the adviser said would could make it risky is if the moderators focused heavily on Trump’s lines of attack including Benghazi, Clinton’s use of a private email server as secretary of State and allegations of President Clinton’s infidelities.

Those storylines would dominate the resulting news coverage at a time when Clinton is beginning her general election fight against Trump.

The fact that Fox News would be the debate’s moderator might also add to Clinton worries.


Shes right..... no more debates.....update on my post I did

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Clinton feels no pressure to debate Sanders (Original Post) Iamaartist May 2016 OP
Between Bernie and Fox it would be one long commercial for Trump BeyondGeography May 2016 #1
Right on I agree...... Iamaartist May 2016 #2
Hay, BeyondGeography,... MarianJack May 2016 #4
Yes. DT would be the only person to benefit from another debate. Arkansas Granny May 2016 #6
Hey BG.. so right. Like trump needs anymore free PR @ Hillary's expense.. Cha May 2016 #13
Why should she? MarianJack May 2016 #3
She dosen't need it right on..she doing great on her own.. Iamaartist May 2016 #7
She doesn't want to see any more of this either... liberal N proud May 2016 #5
LOL..... Iamaartist May 2016 #8
Yeah, she's a had her lifetime fill of that.. I know I have. Cha May 2016 #24
Oh, Hell to the NO! MarianJack May 2016 #35
He hasn't performed well in the debates and just let it lie, nothing good will come of another Thinkingabout May 2016 #9
We heard it all... to me she is our nominee... Iamaartist May 2016 #17
It would be a waste of time and only showcase the livetohike May 2016 #10
It would be waste of time...we heard it all... Iamaartist May 2016 #19
Ye-ah! Let faux & burnie duke it out.. Hillary's done with them. Cha May 2016 #11
I hope it holds up to......sock it to him LOL Iamaartist May 2016 #18
Good. She has no reason to deal with Sanders anymore. sufrommich May 2016 #12
Yep your right...... Iamaartist May 2016 #23
Desperate for FREE Publicity and hoping for FOX to damage HRC! Her Sister May 2016 #14
That's what he wants ........ Iamaartist May 2016 #20
We need to go after Trump...cartoon LOL Iamaartist May 2016 #15
It isn't her job to ease him into acceptance of his irrelevance. Her debating him at this point Squinch May 2016 #16
I agree its over for him and I cant wait.... Iamaartist May 2016 #21
So true, Squinch.. she debated and debated and won them.. all he did was insult Cha May 2016 #22
I think the debates between her and the Hairdo should be very interesting. Squinch May 2016 #25
Oh, yeah.. I wouldn't mind watching those. I couldn't Cha May 2016 #26
I simply got bored with BS saying the same thing over and over. Vulgar talking yam! Perfect! Squinch May 2016 #27
*snort* TwilightZone May 2016 #47
and she shouldn't. At this stage we all know where the candidates stand. still_one May 2016 #28
And, burnie's already lost.. no need for Hillary to prop him up. It's over. Not a snowball's Cha May 2016 #29
The media does it for ratings got to keep that money coming in... Iamaartist May 2016 #30
I agree..... Iamaartist May 2016 #42
Good! And she shouldn't. She's already won this and having another debate only helps BlueCaliDem May 2016 #31
There's no reason to debate, and she shouldn't. Nothing to be accomplished. George II May 2016 #32
Waste of valuable time and resources. Why bother? Surya Gayatri May 2016 #33
He likes to get his way pandr32 May 2016 #34
Debate who? And why? NastyRiffraff May 2016 #36
Another frigging debate and on frigging FOX? NO! NO! NO! SharonClark May 2016 #37
Exactly, as she should ... LannyDeVaney May 2016 #38
Maybe he can debate Trump! That would be a laugh riot and a ratings bonanza!!!! Walk away May 2016 #39
Good. Fuck Fox. We should be uniting not fighting. nt SunSeeker May 2016 #40
If she debates Bernie, might as well include Webb, Chafee, and O'Malley in the lineup Kaleva May 2016 #41
Good point DavidDvorkin May 2016 #43
O'Malley is VP material. Sanders will soon be a historical footnote. Kaleva May 2016 #45
If she did I'd hope she would just ignore the questions and concentrate on her messages. fleabiscuit May 2016 #44
If you've stooped to letting yourself by used by Fox News as propaganda... TwilightZone May 2016 #46

Arkansas Granny

(31,515 posts)
6. Yes. DT would be the only person to benefit from another debate.
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:26 AM
May 2016

If Bernie wants to continue his campaign, so be it, but I do wish he would stop his negative attacks on Hillary. It only helps Trump.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
3. Why should she?
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:17 AM
May 2016

She doesn't need it and, given what a disaster the NY debate was for Back Bench Bernie, it wouldn't help HIM much either. The fact that he's so willing to jump into bed with Fox "News" is an indicator of just how desperate he is, not to win the nomination, but to keep as many of his pea brained Stepford like followers sending their $27 as possible for as long as possible. The Sanders campaign is quite possibly the most cynical political operation I've ever seen. That's saying something since my first political campaign was stuffing envelopes for Bobby Kennedy before he was assassinated a couple of weeks before my 13th birthday in 1968.

As I said in an OP a few days ago, I am DONE with Bernard Sanders for good!

PEACE!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
9. He hasn't performed well in the debates and just let it lie, nothing good will come of another
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:33 AM
May 2016

Debate for Sanders. Right now it will not change the outcome, it will not switch SD's to him and Hillary will get more than half of the pledged delegates very soon.

livetohike

(22,140 posts)
10. It would be a waste of time and only showcase the
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:36 AM
May 2016

increasingly bitter and angry Sanders. He will just repeat his stump speech anyway. More dangerous for him to debate again because it would highlight his temperament which is not suited for the Presidency.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
11. Ye-ah! Let faux & burnie duke it out.. Hillary's done with them.
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:44 AM
May 2016

This is Great, Iaaa.. hope it holds!

Don't do it, Hillary!

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
20. That's what he wants ........
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:09 AM
May 2016

He's desperate to make her look bad ,truly I think he doesn't like her.....or jealous and has been making it bad for her in this primary ,and he says his a Dem....no way more like Trump everyday

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
16. It isn't her job to ease him into acceptance of his irrelevance. Her debating him at this point
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:54 AM
May 2016

would be as useful as her debating Pee Wee Herman. Neither matters to the general election.

These "waaaah, she's breaking her promise!" people are idiots.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
22. So true, Squinch.. she debated and debated and won them.. all he did was insult
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:11 AM
May 2016

and wag his finger..

Cha

(297,196 posts)
26. Oh, yeah.. I wouldn't mind watching those. I couldn't
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:24 AM
May 2016

watch burnie.. he portrays something he's not.. and wags and wags and wags.. For some reason I couldn't stomach him. Nothing gd funny about burnie.

With trump.. what you see it what you get.. big vulgar vile blowhard.. quite laughable.

And, Hillary will take care of him, too.

Charlie Pierce calls him the vulgar talking yam.

still_one

(92,187 posts)
28. and she shouldn't. At this stage we all know where the candidates stand.
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:32 AM
May 2016

The only ones that want this debate are those hoping for a "reality show circus"

Paddy Chayefsky's Network is alive and well today, in what is portrayed as news. Just the over whelming coverage of Trump indicates that, and when the head of CBS Chief Les Moonves said Trump's 'Damn Good' for business, along with:

“Sorry. It’s a terrible thing to say. But, bring it on, Donald. Keep going.”

He confirmed it:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/les-moonves-donald-trump_us_56d52ce8e4b03260bf780275






Cha

(297,196 posts)
29. And, burnie's already lost.. no need for Hillary to prop him up. It's over. Not a snowball's
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:36 AM
May 2016

chance in hell.

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
30. The media does it for ratings got to keep that money coming in...
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:39 AM
May 2016

And they don't care who it hurts in long run....

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
31. Good! And she shouldn't. She's already won this and having another debate only helps
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:34 AM
May 2016

Dumbass-Donald. I mean, come on! Fox "News" Channel hosting an honest and fair debate?? In what universe?

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
33. Waste of valuable time and resources. Why bother?
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:18 AM
May 2016

We can all recite his hackneyed BS speech verbatim anyway.

pandr32

(11,581 posts)
34. He likes to get his way
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:57 AM
May 2016

...and bring Hillary to heel in front of his supporters.

It isn't going to work this time. She needs to treat him respectfully (whenever she mentions him to the Press) but as he really is with her actions--an interloper with trouble on his mind.

She will be the nominee without another ridiculous debate that Sanders needs to give the illusion he is still viable. The less airtime we give to this blowhard, the better.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
36. Debate who? And why?
Sat May 21, 2016, 12:36 PM
May 2016

No no no no no! A thousand times no. There is absolutely no advantage to Hillary to debate Sanders. She may as well debate Donald Duck. He is irrelevant and she needs to (and is trying to) focus on the general.

 

LannyDeVaney

(1,033 posts)
38. Exactly, as she should ...
Sat May 21, 2016, 01:38 PM
May 2016

he's not even worth mentioning anymore. He's done. His campaign is done. They are going broke, he's lost control of his most fringe supporters, and he is hurting the very party he claims to support. He has destroyed his Senate legacy, and is no longer qualified to name a post office.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
39. Maybe he can debate Trump! That would be a laugh riot and a ratings bonanza!!!!
Sat May 21, 2016, 01:39 PM
May 2016

Bernie can tell everyone how to crash the economy and Trump can explain why a nuclear war between China and North Korea is a good thing!!!

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
41. If she debates Bernie, might as well include Webb, Chafee, and O'Malley in the lineup
Sat May 21, 2016, 02:16 PM
May 2016

As Webb, Chafee and O'Malley have as much a chance to win the nomination as Bernie does, they have just as much a legitimate reason to be on the debate stage as Bernie does.

DavidDvorkin

(19,475 posts)
43. Good point
Sat May 21, 2016, 02:59 PM
May 2016

And in O'Malley's case, there's far more to him than there is to Sanders. In addition to which, O'Malley probably has a bright future. Sanders has none.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
46. If you've stooped to letting yourself by used by Fox News as propaganda...
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:17 PM
May 2016

You should probably evaluate the state of your campaign.

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