“If You Believe That Bernie Should Be the Nominee, You Don’t Believe In Democracy”

[riversedge]

Last edited Sat May 21, 2016, 09:44 AM - Edit history (1)

Sanders lost--He and his camp and followers do NOT like the rules that others need to follow during the Primary-so he sues, screams, demeans a respected CA Senator Boxer by calling her a B**ch, encourages his fans to boo Hillary, etc etc.


“If You Believe That Bernie Should Be the Nominee, You Don’t Believe In Democracy”  https://medium.com/soapbox-dc/why-bernie-lost-and-why-his-supporters-need-to-face-reality-a61deb84104e#.yy216yyix … #p2 #uniteblue #BernieLostme




http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-05-20/sanders-won-t-be-fooled-again-by-democracy

May 20, 2016 2:21 PM EDT
By
Francis Wilkinson



...........As Jaime Fuller wrote:

Sanders voters have also been selectively frustrated about the many confusing primary rules. They have not railed against caucuses, which tend to feature extremely low turnout and are so long that many people with inflexible work hours or busy lives are unable to take part. Of course, Sanders has done exceedingly well in caucuses. Using “rigged” is a political act as much as the politics the phrase seeks to call out.

Of course, when the system is corrupt, you are not obligated to honor its rules. And when your opponent is morally compromised and doctrinally wrong, you have a duty to prevent her from gaining power at the expense of your more perfect, far-reaching vision. Or you do if you value socialism more than you trust democracy.

Sanders has taken pains to stress that he is a Democratic Socialist, distinguishing himself from the unsavory henchmen of Moscow and Beijing. His primary campaign has been unhindered by the kind of red-baiting that would envelop, and overwhelm, him in a general election, when his youthful associations with less democratic strains of socialism would become a staple of Republican advertising.

It's likely that in a general election, the agents of capitalism would indeed join forces to crush Sanders. His campaign, which has sparked a fire but not a revolution, would be exposed as just the latest socialist mirage on the American landscape.

In the Democratic primary, Sanders has been spared all that. He hasn't won. But he hasn't completely lost, either. He's just been required, once again, to wait. It's not capitalism, however, that has deferred his dream of socialism with American characteristics. It's democracy.

[Cha]

1. All BS cares about is drilling into his fans

that ".. the system is corrupt".. because he's losing. Do you think it would be "corrupt" if burnie were winning? Now I ask.

Hell NO.. burnie's just letting everyone know what a poor loser he is.. he's going to take his fans and go to the convention and whine some more.. having made sure he's got them to believe "the system is corrupt".. BullShit, burnie.

Mahalo, rivers~

[riversedge]

4. Sanders does not sue or whin in the states in which he wins. It is obvious he is

a hypocrite about this issue.

[Cha]

5. Such a con man.

[Koinos]

7. Fortunately, the con is starting to unravel.

[Cha]

10. Yes! I was having my

doubts @ one point that it ever would.

[yallerdawg]

2. Since he first announced...

there may be a few places left in this country where big government and massive taxes are still in vogue (?) but for most of us - as demonstrated in the primary results of popular vote, delegates, and superdelegates - we don't think this is a winning agenda in November.

When Trump says he'd love to run against "Crazy Bernie," he isn't kidding. (what does Trump know about "those" polls that we don't?)

When Trump eggs Bernie on to run as an independent, he just wants the Democratic primary to go on until November - his only path to a Trump victory.

If an anticipated 140,000,000 voters turn out in November, it's no "revolution" if 94% of those voters reject your agenda.

[Surya Gayatri]

3. Massive K & R. Thanks for posting. So spot on.

[riversedge]

11. Thanks. #CaPrimary

[Koinos]

6. Authoritarianism versus Democracy

Both Sanders and Trump are authoritarians, who do not respect majority rule. Trump wants to be a "boss," and Sanders wants to accomplish everything with executive power and use protests and bullying to get Congress to go along. Sanders has no confidence even in a Democratic Congress, since he deems the Democratic party to be corrupt and "moribund." So he expects to function as a "lone ranger" with millions of angry disciples to apply pressure to corporatist politicians. I doubt that he would have the patience to go the slow route of getting like-minded "democratic socialists" elected. Moreover, like his followers, he has little confidence in voters, the majority of whom appear to him to be ill-informed and uneducated in the enlightened values of his purist ideology. In his view, the many ignorant have to be forced to believe and do what is right by the enlightened few. Of course, rule by an enlightened few directly contradicts the genuine meaning of democracy. With democracy, people don't take orders from a minority. They work together, despite their differences, with dialogue and mutual respect, to arrive at goals that further the well-being of all; and they employ methods which do not encroach on the rights of minorities. In a democracy, the will of the majority is decisive; but the Bill of Rights and other safeguards serve to limit the potential overreach of the majority.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. He is not a big d Democrat nor a small d democrat.

[fleabiscuit]

9. K&R It's democracy.