msnbc doing good segment on NV convention unrest

[riversedge]

Harry Reid said he made sure before the convention that the meeting would not favor either candidate.

Joy Reid

[riversedge]

1. saying Sanders just did not get enough of his people to the convention

[BootinUp]

2. Yep. nt

[riversedge]

3. Sanders folks did rush the stage. People on stage were fearful-that is the truth. And focusing

on chairs not being thrown-Chairs were lifted up over some heads-there is video of that--is just a distraction by Sanders fans--they lost and they are upset over losing. Panel.

[riversedge]

4. Now talking about getting through to June 14. (WPost reporter on the panel)

[yallerdawg]

5. The Sanders supporters had only one objective - disruption.

Their goal certainly wasn't to usurp the will of the people who voted in the Nevada caucus - was it?

[BootinUp]

9. What really bothers me, is it seems like an attempt to scare other delegates

into leaving. They shut the proceedings down, became very boisterous and loud and vulger. Your average person that is not a BS supporter is going to feel threatened.

Here are the important facts:
The Committee was evenly split between both campaigns, no Chairman only co-chairs
Sanders had less delegates there and couldn't win a voice vote and couldn't win a recount.
The HOTEL not the committee wanted it shut down because they couldn't control the crowd.

[riversedge]

11. Yes, it was Hotel security who said they could no longer handle the crowd and wanted

re-reinforcements called in. It is just a lie that the Clinton camp or delegates wanted it shut down.

[sarae]

27. Jon Ralston was saying that the voice vote really didn't matter – that it was the actual number

count that mattered (how many delegates were filling seats for each campaign). Was the voice vote a formality? It seems ludicrous that any convention would measure a crowd's response merely by how much noise they can generate. That's seems like something better left to bikini contests, not the democratic process. Did the Sanders crowd think that outshouting the Clinton side was all that mattered?

[riversedge]

29. Ralston is correct. ...

It is common practice to do the yeahs and nays voice votes. But since more Hillary delegates were actually present --why waste time.

[sarae]

30. oh, I see...

So I guess they rushed through the voice vote, since they knew the count anyway, and the Sanders people took that as a sign that they were cheating?? So ridiculous.

I just watched this Ralston Live video where they discussed the NV Convention. He had a panel of 3 people who also attended the convention. They went over (and disproved!) every claim of cheating the Sanders people had:

http://watch.knpb.org/video/2365759848/

Jon Ralston is getting harassed on Twitter for speaking out and telling the truth. I feel bad for him, but I'm so thankful he spoke out about it.

[riversedge]

31. Thanks for the link. Bookmarked for later. Their protests and distractions are getting boring to m

[sarae]

33. I hear you. I'm getting sick of all the whining myself.

[LiberalFighter]

34. Starts about 7:19 with that segment.

[sarae]

36. oops...thanks!

forgot to mention that it wasn't quite at the beginning of the video...

[riversedge]

10. And now following by Distraction.

[Cha]

25. Disruption and attempting to persuade everyone the "System is Rigged!".. "that's why BS lost"

If BS had won.. the system wouldn't be rigged.. you see how that works?

yallerdawg~

[UMTerp01]

6. Yes on AM Joy. I'm watching.

Very interesting. I did not know that Hillary filled 98% of her convention seats. Sanders only filled 78%. She also made the point that Sanders folk did a good job of turning around previous caucus results but weren't as organized at this Nevada Convention. Very interesting information. I love me some Joy Reid.

[riversedge]

8. segment to continue after commercial break. stay tuned. And yes, not all Sanders delegates showed

up. Several news outlets have pointed that out but Sanders supporters here on DU and social outlets use that fact as parrot droppings paper. Distraction or silence or shout it down.

[Her Sister]

16. I think they did not show up perhaps b/c they'd stopped feeling the Bern!

Many people changing their minds lately, as we can see from the dwindling monies coming in for the BS campaign.

[SaschaHM]

28. I wouldn't be surprised if

a) they didn't want to lose their Saturday over getting a loser( he has lost this nomination) 2 more delegates

or

b) Some were college kids that were either out of state or away for the summer.

[LiberalFighter]

35. I vote for c)

1) College students were busy with their class schedule or other activities and didn't have time to spend all day on a Saturday.
2) Many more just didn't want to waste a good Saturday.

[DLCWIdem]

24. I'm just wondering

If the Sanders campaign in their haste to fill out those county convention seats maybe got some delegates who were not even from the county. You know the reddit thread said bring all of your Bernie supporters, maybe they brought some who weren't supposed to be there. Didn't they say that addresses couldn't be verified, as well as registrations.

[Cha]

26. Exactly right, DLCWIdem

Jon Ralston ??@RalstonReports
What, Bernie delegates were not registered Dems? Why, that would be as crazy as Bernie not being a registered Dem.
5:10 PM - 14 May 2016
750 750 Retweets 762 762 likes

ETA:

Jon Ralston ??@RalstonReports
Sources tell me that the lovely Bernie folks posted state Dem Chair @rlange9's cell #, and she has been getting a flood of nasty calls. 1/2
7:00 AM - 15 May 2016
315 315 Retweets 175 175 likes

https://theobamadiary.com/2016/05/15/early-bird-chat-747/#comments

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107134159

[Surya Gayatri]

7. Very good reporting. Well done, Joy.

[riversedge]

13. Everyone should have listened to it.

[riversedge]

12. $5.8 Million is Sandes coffers. Sanders has to continue to raise money and not spend

as much in CA. more trimming of staff and little if no TV advertising-panel saying

[Her Sister]

17. Can they afford Tad Devine?

Is he still on the payroll?

[Iliyah]

14. K & R

[Cary]

15. Joy is the second best!

Sorry but I am a big Eugene Robinson fan too.

[Surya Gayatri]

18. He's usually VERY good. But, when he's on Morning Joe, he lets himself be

a bit "intimidated" by big-mouth Scar. He'll often temper his opinions after Joe weighs in.

[Cary]

19. But I kind of like that

He chooses his battles and I think that puts him on top.

[Surya Gayatri]

21. True, he's very judicious in choosing when to fight.

I often get the distinct feeling that he's secretly mocking the idiot Scar. His superior intellect is SO obvious.

[Cary]

20. He has an online discussion on Tuesdays

And sometimes he explains that.

[Surya Gayatri]

22. On the MSNBC site? Or elsewhere?

[Cary]

32. Live chat on his Washington Post blog

[Her Sister]

23. Here OP on the Trump Documentary that Trump does not want you to see!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110790165#post5