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stopbush

(24,396 posts)
Sun May 22, 2016, 06:24 PM May 2016

Is there anything positive coming out of Sanders' campaign these days?

Because if there is, I haven't heard it.

His campaign has devolved into a whining pile of negative thoughts and energy, fixated on how the world is against him, how long-established rules and political norms were rigged years ago in anticipation of hurting Bernie Sanders in 2016, and how he is the ONLY person alive who has a chance of saving the USA from the path the oligarchs have set us on.

He's not even willing to say that he will work for the common good when he finally admits he's lost.

It would be funny were it not so destructively self centered.

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Is there anything positive coming out of Sanders' campaign these days? (Original Post) stopbush May 2016 OP
Yipes shenmue May 2016 #1
All negative from the man who was going to run a positive campaign liberal N proud May 2016 #2
Amen. nt SylviaD May 2016 #4
Hear, hear! SylviaD May 2016 #3
Let's see: lawsuits, Dem bashing, everything is rigged, Dem bashing, inciting poor behavior... TwilightZone May 2016 #5
What's up with all the damn lawsuits? all american girl May 2016 #32
Bernie's becoming more like Trump every day Pika78 May 2016 #34
Someone else had a theory that I think makes sense. TwilightZone May 2016 #36
Well, this morning he said that if he does well in the next six states he'll go to the convention... George II May 2016 #6
We haven't heard much from Jane lately. OilemFirchen May 2016 #7
Gotta cut Jane some slack as I'm sure she's very busy getting those tax returns together. stopbush May 2016 #8
A silver lining is a silver lining. OilemFirchen May 2016 #10
Or....... sheshe2 May 2016 #12
Never rub the indictment genie's bottle... you might not like what you get. SaschaHM May 2016 #14
Don't even need Fox for that one. TwilightZone May 2016 #18
Eh, I needed a source for the inevitable alert. Every thread here is being alert stalked. SaschaHM May 2016 #20
Good point TwilightZone May 2016 #22
They've raised $200m but can't pay anyone to do their taxes. TwilightZone May 2016 #19
"Tax returns" are not what I'd be looking for right now jmowreader May 2016 #25
She's keeping a low profile since it came out that her actions caused the closing of that college brush May 2016 #17
Burlington College Implosion + taxes Her Sister May 2016 #33
Doesn't seem to be mcar May 2016 #9
Yes. He's positive that he is the wisest judge in the universe of everything that matters... NNadir May 2016 #11
Nope. NanceGreggs May 2016 #13
Hear, hear! Little Star May 2016 #21
When was the last time any Sanders person discussed his policies in detail? procon May 2016 #15
K & R Koinos May 2016 #16
The giddy & happy "I love Bernie, he's going to fix Washington, bla bla" died at the NY primary Tarc May 2016 #23
One positive is that every day is one day less left. n/t fleabiscuit May 2016 #24
Weaver had an riversedge May 2016 #26
A campaign which is imploding, it's Humpty Dumpty and can not be put back together again. Thinkingabout May 2016 #27
Assuming time works the same way in his camp as it does everywhere else in the universe ... LannyDeVaney May 2016 #28
No Demsrule86 May 2016 #29
We're seeing less of Jane. That's the only positive I see. n/t livetohike May 2016 #30
That's not what sanders has ever been about.. it's all negative, hate and victimhood.. why Cha May 2016 #31
17 more days! Walk away May 2016 #35

TwilightZone

(25,464 posts)
5. Let's see: lawsuits, Dem bashing, everything is rigged, Dem bashing, inciting poor behavior...
Sun May 22, 2016, 06:29 PM
May 2016

Ah, nope.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
32. What's up with all the damn lawsuits?
Mon May 23, 2016, 05:13 AM
May 2016

Every time I turn around, the Bernie people are suing something....this is getting ridiculous. I just read this morning they are suing CA for something...but I find it strange that they didn't start a suit again AZ, when there was clearly something wrong...only when they need to act like the victim. SMH

TwilightZone

(25,464 posts)
36. Someone else had a theory that I think makes sense.
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:34 AM
May 2016

He knows that it's over and is just trying to stay relevant as long as he can. The lawsuits and threat of lawsuits keep him in the news and keep his newfound fame alive for the time being.

The suit in CA is his typical, though - some of his supporters apparently screwed up and registered as the wrong party instead of staying unaffiliated, so he's trying to buy them time to fix it. Should have figured that out before the deadline.

George II

(67,782 posts)
6. Well, this morning he said that if he does well in the next six states he'll go to the convention...
Sun May 22, 2016, 06:30 PM
May 2016

....with a majority of pledged delegates. That sounded positive, sort of.

Unfortunately he didn't quantify "well", which would have to be 40% + wins in each and every one of them.

So, to answer your initial question, nope.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
14. Never rub the indictment genie's bottle... you might not like what you get.
Sun May 22, 2016, 07:18 PM
May 2016
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/19/burlington-college-board-member-feds-asking-questions-about-jane-sanders-loan.html

*As we've been told multiple times, Fox news is a reputable news source. Hell, it can't be that terrible if Bernie wants them to host a debate.

TwilightZone

(25,464 posts)
18. Don't even need Fox for that one.
Sun May 22, 2016, 07:38 PM
May 2016

It's been all over the place, which is probably why a) Jane is in hiding, and b) they won't release their tax returns.

TwilightZone

(25,464 posts)
19. They've raised $200m but can't pay anyone to do their taxes.
Sun May 22, 2016, 07:41 PM
May 2016

Probably because they were already done.

jmowreader

(50,554 posts)
25. "Tax returns" are not what I'd be looking for right now
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:23 PM
May 2016

"English-speaking countries that have no extradition treaties with the US" is more like it.

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
11. Yes. He's positive that he is the wisest judge in the universe of everything that matters...
Sun May 22, 2016, 06:50 PM
May 2016

...and is happy to help people who didn't vote for him realize that they did vote for him, because, um, he's so positive.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
13. Nope.
Sun May 22, 2016, 07:14 PM
May 2016

In fact, I haven't heard anything positive come out of Bernie's campaign pretty much since the beginning.

He started by rattling off the same laundry list of complaints about what's wrong with the country that he's been trotting out for 30+ years. When asked about solutions to those problems, his only response has been promising things he knows for a fact he can't deliver.

The Mr. Nice Guy mask came off early on. Being positive and upbeat is a role too far afield from his true nature, and it was obvious that he wouldn't be able to maintain that persona for very long.

I remember reading the accolades from early supporters, e.g. he's such a nice man, so sincere, so honest, so pleasant; he just wants what is best for everyone. We'll never know, but I wonder how many supporters who voted for him in the earliest primaries would vote for him now that he's shown his true nature - a crabby, egotistical, self-serving, chronic complainer who has nothing positive to say about anyone or anything.

It's just anecdotal evidence, but I personally know quite a few people who completely turned off Bernie when he went negative on HRC. They felt that (a) they'd been betrayed by the "nice old guy who wasn't going to run a negative campaign" and then did, and (b) if he had something positive to bring to the table, going negative would not have been necessary.

Needless to say, the behaviour of many Bernie supporters, on-line and in RL, was the last straw for many who once saw BS as being the exact opposite of what that behaviour demonstrated.

"He's not even willing to say that he will work for the common good when he finally admits he's lost."

And there you have it - undeniable proof that "the common good" was never important to Bernie. The only thing that's important to Bernie is himself, his own ego, and the desperate need to cling to the spotlight he's convinced himself he somehow actually deserves.




procon

(15,805 posts)
15. When was the last time any Sanders person discussed his policies in detail?
Sun May 22, 2016, 07:21 PM
May 2016

When did someone from Sanders camp ever debate the nuts and bolts of his any of his ideas? They can't because Sanders never bothered to fill in the blanks. There's just nothing there. He's stuck. He's been stuck since day one, never broadening his plans to address more issues that voters want to know about.

Look at how he just keeps repeating the same stump speech on the same topics over and over again. Its a speaking style that he shares with Sarah Palin and Donald Trump, two more lightweight candidates who also were stuck in an endless loop of reciting the same trite phrases from memory all the time.

With nothing coming from Sanders or his campaign, no new information, no details, no explanations, no in depth papers on his proposed plans, what are his followers supposed to do? They search the internet to find someone that wrote a blog entry that criticized Hillary, they sift through facebook and youtube, hunting for anyone who has uploaded something negative on Hillary, and the web is filled with conspiracy theories that match their tempers. Since they can't figure out out how to extol Sander's nonexistent policies, the only thing they have left is throwing stuff at Hillary.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
23. The giddy & happy "I love Bernie, he's going to fix Washington, bla bla" died at the NY primary
Sun May 22, 2016, 07:59 PM
May 2016

That was when they saw any genuine chance of him actually winning the nomination get dashed. Ever since then they've sped up the drumbeat on Emailgate, screamed about mythical Bernie vs. Trump polls, or cheered the violence at the Nevada meetings.

That's really all they have left in the tank.

riversedge

(70,187 posts)
26. Weaver had an
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:27 PM
May 2016

interview today. It is getting worse that I had thought. I did not hear the interview--not sure I want to. But saw a few tweets out there. Weaver says that Trump is right when he uses Bernie's lines of attach against Hillary.



Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
27. A campaign which is imploding, it's Humpty Dumpty and can not be put back together again.
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:53 PM
May 2016

The house built with sand will not stand. No foundation, no base.

 

LannyDeVaney

(1,033 posts)
28. Assuming time works the same way in his camp as it does everywhere else in the universe ...
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:21 PM
May 2016

he is another day closer to being irrelevant.


Cha

(297,154 posts)
31. That's not what sanders has ever been about.. it's all negative, hate and victimhood.. why
Mon May 23, 2016, 01:11 AM
May 2016

would he change now? It's worked so well for him. lol

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