Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumHillary has many, many supporters, but they are AWOL on DU/GDP...
At this point I rarely post OPs in GDP, and on occasion I toss in a reply. I'm sure that the vast majority of Hillary supporters are solid Democrats. Most people don't come to DU with a plan to be disruptive. This OP represents a long list that appear everyday with little value except as flame bait in my opinion.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2034478
I wish you wouldn't have done that.
You're to blame if Trump wins.
I posted a reply in this case:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2039817
At any rate, my point from the subject of this OP is that there really are more Hillary supporters in the world than we see on DU. I was a union meeting last night with several affiliated chapters - educators, service employees, and various public employees. I asked, and about 2/3rds were Hillary supporters - and almost everyone was a Democrat. There were a few Bernie supporters. No one was boorish. No chairs were thrown. The only enemy discussed was Rick Scott and the GOP. Everyone wants to see Florida replace a repub Senator with a Democrat. A big topic was ALEC. We'd love to defeat some local politicians.
Yes, there are people who are not happy with the DNC or some national strategy, but most want to organize their members and neighbors to vote Democratic. Most seemed to willingly accept that ANY Democrat would be better than ANY repub. Of course, most of that group are activists who will work to GOTV.
Several mentioned DU and similar sources, but almost everyone had given up on the internet because they had been run off. I hope that people realize that SOME of the attacks are likely orchestrated disruptions designed to do exactly that - keep Hillary supporters from working together to elect the first woman President.
Soon we will turn to the real work of getting ready for the November election - so let's hang in there until the convention. If you're not already involved, then do what you can to support local Democrats or help with the national campaign. Volunteer, donate, or talk to neighbors. It's a war out there, and I really believe there are many more Democrats and Hillary supporters than we see on DU. I know that in Florida, Hillary could win here if we fight the fight.
hertopos
(833 posts)Now I think, it is about time to stay away from here until June 7. After California primary, I hope the admin do something about dubious disputers.
Hertopos
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)I have responded to a few threads that someone has linked from here but for the most part, I stay away.
Too TOXIC!
It needs this label before entering:
Squinch
(50,949 posts)And the people who keep doing it are just as irrelevant as their candidate.
Arkansas Granny
(31,516 posts)over there right now and you can't have a discussion with people who are only there to start a fight. I'll be so happy when Skinner puts an end to this.
sarae
(3,284 posts)I made the mistake of setting foot in there a few days ago...NEVER AGAIN!* The amount of sheer anger and hostility is palpable.
*or at least until the Trump trolls are gone.
Cha
(297,196 posts)Good Luck to all in Florida getting a Democratic Senator and us taking your state in November!
BooScout
(10,406 posts)This is why I seldom post here anymore. If folks want to know where I am....send me a PM.
Here are the results of the jury: (I was juror number 6)
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
Mail Message
On Wed May 25, 2016, 06:37 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
Hillary has many, many supporters, but they are AWOL on DU/GDP...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107144190
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
A crybaby call-out of another DUer, linking to their post as "flamebait." There are many "Solid Democrats" who are not Hillary supporters. The opinion could have been expressed in an OP without calling out someone else as an "example." That's the point of the alert...the call-out.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed May 25, 2016, 06:47 AM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It's a mild reply to an obnoxious post. That is the one which should have been hidden.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't care what excuse the alerter uses for "calling out" in this post, it's horse manure. I can't think of a better OP to explain what it intends to be WITHOUT calling out anyone in particular... STUPID ALERT!
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It's a 'call-out' of threads, not a specific DU-er. And he's right: most of the posts in GDP are flamebait and add nothing to a discussion of the issues.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Stop alert stalking Hillary supporters!
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't see the problem with this post, except that I don't agree with it, which is not grounds for a hide.
Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.
Sancho
(9,070 posts)I included one example. Anyone here could find a dozen every day that would do. It has nothing to do with any particular person.
I think the stalking makes the point even more!! It's time to elect a Democratic President. Hillary is our choice.
BooScout
(10,406 posts)She's always had my support and my vote!
Because of the toxicity here though, I lay low here and go elsewhere for in depth discussion of the issues.
riversedge
(70,208 posts)GusBob
(7,286 posts)You are not allowed to speak freely. You are not allowed to have an opinion.
The other day I wanted to apply an age old adage, but it contained the word "fool" in it. I deferred for fear it would generate an alert and a hide from a stacked jury.
Imagine that for a second. A phrase older than the USA. The word fool which goes back to olde English, Shakespeare. Me hesitant to use it on the Internet lest some fucking loser gets offended.
Full circle, you are not allowed free expression in this Internet forum because of alert stalkers
Arkansas Granny
(31,516 posts)I check in here from time to time, but I'm not here all day, every day. There has definitely been some alert stalking going on. I've never seen so many alerts.
BooScout
(10,406 posts)...and sometimes three times a day. I have started removing myself from the jury pool some days just to get a break.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)They won't be "in charge" of DU and the jury system much longer.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)riversedge
(70,208 posts)it kept getting hit on--by sanders supporters. I actually self deleted it after a bit-- as I figured--by give them fodder.
Kingofalldems
(38,454 posts)* Note to jury: This is my opinion.
riversedge
(70,208 posts)Stuckinthebush
(10,845 posts)It's pointless to post or to reply in the insane GDP these days. Too many Trolls
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)It is a miniscule number who post anything anywhere except maybe on Facebook. Most people aren't as interested in the horserace as we are.
tanyev
(42,553 posts)gaspee
(3,231 posts)Go anywhere near that cesspool
justhanginon
(3,290 posts)I would hate to be known for keeping company with most of those on GD-P at this point. I too will be glad when Hillary locks it up and hopefully DU can return to some semblance of normalcy.
brer cat
(24,562 posts)DU is NOT representative of the voters across the country. Being loud and boorish in order to push people away may make them feel important, but they are just yelling in an echo chamber.
The view from your union meeting is encouraging. We should be focused on defeating our common enemy, republicans, not each other. I hope that after June we can do just that.
I trashed DUP a long time ago, and I only go in when I have jury duty or a link to a post such as yours in this OP. I really appreciate and admire those who are willing to stand up to the bullies, but I personally can't do it. It brings out emotions that I don't want to live with.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)the OP you reference is from one of the most obviously inflammatory posters in that forum.
People whose main effort is to trash Clinton are not Democrats NOR Lefties.
And the few Sanders supporters I meet in this very liberal area are all voting Hillary.
I think the phenomenon we witness here is mostly disruption for one reason or other.
It's just too anomalous to have so many obnoxious, crap-stirring Hillary-hating Sanders supporters on DU and so few in real life.
Pika78
(55 posts)I can hardly do a Google search for Hillary without being buried under ugly, biased headlines and hate-filled, incendiary comments that reek of misogyny. It's IN-SANE. I've started tweeting back my indignation to said "news" sources, knowing full well it's like shouting into the wind. So depressing. And then there are the comment clowns: between those supporting Trump, those who will keep singing Bernie's praises come hell or high water, and those who just DETEST Hillary for whatever foolish, pathetic reason they have, the lucid population of the US seems to have shrunk to about the size of this group for me (I live abroad - the internet is the only way I stay connected with American politics).
And yet, Hillary's delegate count keeps climbing, which is encouraging. One day maybe the internet will come to its senses and cut her a break (but I'm not holding my breath!!!).
Sancho
(9,070 posts)who knows if it's some kind of RW plan or whatever, but the Hillary hate does not jive with my experience on the street.
Virtually none of the "regular" Democrats that I know hate Hillary, even if they like Bernie.
The vast majority admire her.
BooScout
(10,406 posts)I'm not as nice to her as I am with my OPs here.
sarae
(3,284 posts)So much sexist, racist, Islamophobic, homophobic, xenophobic, ageist, looksist garbage (I could keep going, but you get the picture) has come out of the woodwork (on the right and the left).
I'm exhausted already and we're not even in June yet.
realmirage
(2,117 posts)control of GDP for a few pointless weeks than the other way around. I'm ok with that trade off.
wryter2000
(46,040 posts)I don't go in there. I don't need to read right wing talking points on DU.
splat
(2,294 posts)Sounds like the brig!
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)I could care less what they say or think. My candidate won. OUR candidate won. And all the whining, lying, and temper tantrums in the world won't do a damned thing to change that. It sucks that a general forum has been taken over and twisted off-purpose. But it won't be forever, and from what I've read so far, the same behavior won't be tolerated after the primary.
Enjoy the win. Along with our candidate, we've earned it.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Exactly right, Bobby. She's won, and she'll be our next president. To hell with the Bernie Bros.
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)he is LOSING by 3 MILLION votes in the primaries and the only reason the gap isn't even greater is because Republicans are voting for him in our primaries because he would get destroyed in the GE.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Come now - something something economic equality + big crowds + ?????? = more electable.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)Politicub
(12,165 posts)Thus sayeth the Bros.
caquillo
(521 posts)... but then caption it with "For the birds." The phrase means trivial, worthless, only of interest to gullible people.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)It's such a waste of time and energy.
pandr32
(11,581 posts)I especially noted this line right here:
"...SOME of the attacks are likely orchestrated disruptions designed to do exactly that - keep Hillary supporters from working together to elect the first woman President."
That is exactly what we see. Anything positive posted is swarmed with negatives to counter it--almost instantly. There seems to be a whole sh*tload of on-line saboteurs working against any on-line Hillary Clinton support here and all over the internet. I am not sure if they really are for Bernie Sanders as they insist, or if they are paid trolls for the Republicans. In my books--same diff, because these kind of people say they could never bring themselves to vote for Hillary in the GE.
DavidDvorkin
(19,475 posts)With more being added on a regular basis.
That way, I can read GD again. I don't see the worst of the posts. When one shows up, I hide the poster and don't bother replying.
Koinos
(2,792 posts)If I am around them too long, they make me nauseous.
Why did certain individuals ever believe that anger and vitriol would win votes or friends?
They are clueless anger machines without a moral compass.
We are not on this earth to attack one another.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)still_one
(92,190 posts)ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)how the hell is it still here?
Sancho
(9,070 posts)there are some who have many hides, and disruptive posts. Makes no sense to me.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)crap day in and day out.
I really can't believe that they can't find better use of their time.
And all the posts are just put down after put down.
Nothing in GDP is going to change the outcome of the primary.
skylucy
(3,739 posts)wind and posted on General Forum, etc. I do so with the knowledge that I am risking being alerted and then being at the mercy of a jury. Anything positive about Hillary (or any Democrat other than Bernie) is going to get nasty replies and anything about Bernie short of worshipping him is risking an alert. Not a real enjoyable experience. It is the risk of having a stacked jury "punish" me for not being a BernieBot that I find very disheartening. I do feel that there are Trump/Republican trolls on DU because lately they have been outing themselves. Maybe they can't help themselves because they know that their time here on DU is going to be ending in a few weeks...Or maybe the fact that they have been allowed to park themselves here for so long has them thinking we Democrats aren't smart enough to figure out who they are. HILLARY 2016
ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)It's a cesspool.
ismnotwasm
(41,977 posts)I am making Facebook Hillary friends from all over the place. A great, passionate group of people prepared to take her to the White House.