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Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
Sat May 28, 2016, 07:54 AM May 2016

Bernie's passion really lies with fighting the "system" or the capitalistic system than with real

compassion for people. He began by being more interested in destroying Wall Street and breaking up big banks and narrowing the income gap between white working men and women and the 1%. After his message seemed to resonate with those anti-Obama POC, he suddenly became more of a champion of modern civil rights. He was and is all too happy to have them come along for the ride to increase his numbers against HRC but if you notice, his message changed AFTER a number of them and the BLM latched on to him.

He seems, to me, to be lost in his own rhetoric and not knowing how to get re-focused on what his original intention was. I can't tell if he is leading a movement or if a movement is leading him. He has definitely lost control to Tim Weaver who himself is not sure of what he is controlling.

Free college, breaking up big banks, and reigning in Wall Street is how he started and were his passions aimed at white middle class voters...because most of those issues have little bearing on POC who can't reap the benefits of much of his agenda because racism still factors them out of much of it.

Yep, Bernie has lost control and he is angry about not being able to get his focus back. So he has decided that if he can't destroy the "rigged system" he will at least destroy the Democratic party.

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Bernie's passion really lies with fighting the "system" or the capitalistic system than with real (Original Post) Jitter65 May 2016 OP
no shit was given it's over for bernie stonecutter357 May 2016 #1
^^^This!^^^ Surya Gayatri May 2016 #2
Excellent analysis, Jitter. It's what I've been thinking as well. What people see as "passion" is BlueCaliDem May 2016 #3
Where! fleabiscuit May 2016 #8
And why does he address his followers as "brothers and sisters"? Sounds so socialist anotherproletariat May 2016 #4
I grew up in a union household, there is nothing wrong with using "brothers and sisters" SharonClark May 2016 #10
Empathy is the basis of ethical action. Bernie has no empathy. Koinos May 2016 #5
He can't define it, either. pandr32 May 2016 #6
He has a vague, overly general resentment against all things financial. Koinos May 2016 #7
Agreed! pandr32 May 2016 #12
I don't think he relates well to people NastyRiffraff May 2016 #9
Bingo! SharonClark May 2016 #11
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
2. ^^^This!^^^
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:35 AM
May 2016
Yep, Bernie has lost control and he is angry about not being able to get his focus back. So he has decided that if he can't destroy the "rigged system" he will at least destroy the Democratic party.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
3. Excellent analysis, Jitter. It's what I've been thinking as well. What people see as "passion" is
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:47 AM
May 2016

merely rage against everything and everyone; rage against the "machine", if you will.

I believe that this inner rage stems from his lack of success in his life, seeing with growing envy his peers in both the House and Senate becoming millionaires many times over, some people - a woman, for chrissakes! - getting offered huge speaking fees, and living a life he has always dreamed of - although hiding his assets under Jane's name should make him happy, considering he's probably worth $1.5 to $2 million.

But as Chris Matthews said, if you're worth $1 to $4 million in a group where the majority of people are worth tens of millions, you consider yourself not that rich at all, maybe even poor.

Chris Matthews said this during the 2012 election in reference to Newt Gingrich complaining about wealthy people while he, himself, was worth about $4 million.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
4. And why does he address his followers as "brothers and sisters"? Sounds so socialist
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:08 PM
May 2016

or at least cult-like. But you're right, he must have realized soon after declaring that there is no way to destroy the "rigged system" given the current framework of the federal government. Ooops...now what to do...

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
10. I grew up in a union household, there is nothing wrong with using "brothers and sisters"
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:43 PM
May 2016

That is what we should all be to each other.

pandr32

(11,583 posts)
6. He can't define it, either.
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:31 PM
May 2016

Bernie lost his way because his path, as with most, is not a red carpet laid out in a straight line with co-operative media snapping pictures of those who strut the length of it. Bernie could not even define "Wall Street" or what and who is involved in "the establishment" and what constitutes a "rigged system." He stumbled along that red carpet because he is woefully inept and can't even answer a simple question about his message except to make it all about a nefarious ingroup/outgroup division that gets hopelessly tangled up when he is asked about where someone is placed in that hot mess of a tangle. He even found himself and Jane tied into the knots.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
7. He has a vague, overly general resentment against all things financial.
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:32 PM
May 2016

But he doesn't really understand the system he reviles. He is relatively uninformed and almost without nuance. He needs to read and study more.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
9. I don't think he relates well to people
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:39 PM
May 2016

He says he cares about "the people," but he seems to have little or no liking for individual people. That's why he's good at rallies rather than town halls or interviews. He loves those crowds but not so much the individuals in them.

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