Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumIpsos poll: Clinton, Biden, Sanders (Hillary Group)
@Lompemann: Ipsos now has Biden doing better than Sanders among likely primary voters:
Hillary 63%
Biden 14%
Sanders 13%
http://t.co/IVuadbNXWp via Twitter
Tommy2Tone
(1,307 posts)He draws crowds of the young and the disgruntled. Very few Democrats support him and judging by the comments in Bernie stories he is mainly supported by those who hate Hillary.
Off Topic but my fear is these constant investigations will take a toll on her popularity in the general election.
ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)Abusing investigations is what Republicans do. They did it against Bill, they did it against Barack, and they're trying to do it against Hillary. And yes, the perpetually outraged will give them cover: the Naderites, the Firebaggers, the anti-Democratic haters. But they're only the smallest fraction. Regular voters don't care about whiners whining, or the lies they make up.
- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I guess she's just not feelin the "bern", eh?
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Go Hillary!
SunSeeker
(51,695 posts)Hillary is looking really strong.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Gothmog
(145,554 posts)msrizzo
(796 posts)I know I wouldn't have read it anywhere else but here.
calimary
(81,466 posts)Haven't done that (welcoming anybody) in awhile, but then again, I'm not around much these days. Your point is a good one, though. One certainly wouldn't see an OP like this in many other places around DU, outside the Hillary Group. We are sorely outnumbered - at least here on this board.
I visited one thread today that was quite long and well-attended. And post after post after post after post had a Bernie-in-the-sig-line. And it wasn't even strictly speaking a thread about Bernie Sanders!
mckara
(1,708 posts)The polls will change after the first Democratic debate. Hillary and Biden represent yesterday, not tomorrow. We won't get fooled again!
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)If people still don't know who he is, then he has a very big problem.
(Or, maybe Democrats just don't want Sanders as their nominee, which is the more plausible explanation.)
okasha
(11,573 posts)and Sanders won't make it to October. The "debates" will turn into Hillary interviewing the also-rans for Cabinet posts and Ambassadorships.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)delete your post please
But before you go... Hillary will wipe Sanders off the floor in a debate. I have no idea why people think Sanders would do that well in a debate. All he does is bluster.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)to have more (way more), than six debates.
So, if everything will change with one debate, why so desperate to have more than six?
Cha
(297,655 posts)time in History.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,240 posts)He's still mired in single digits with minorities and it's not because "we don't know him yet"; quite the contrary, WE DO know him, that's a really big problem for BS.
StoneCarver
(249 posts)As Democrat Hillary mystifies me. Why would a person want to return to the Oval Office "scene of the crime" which your husband occupied. I would love to see a woman elected President but this is the wrong person at the wrong time. There's just something about her I just can't put my finger on that disturbs me. I think it's because she appears to want the job only for the power, not to help us little people. But to a larger point, I think Americans are sick of Clinton Bush dynasties. I have no idea how this will turn out (until Nate Silver weighs in). But the democrats have Bernie and the republicans have Trump -we are starting to wake up. I hope it's in time. The 1% is watching.
Stonecarver
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)okasha
(11,573 posts)Bearing in mind that Trump made a total ass of himself in my hometown recently.
Cha
(297,655 posts)and demagogic.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Regarding the General, Nate had reservations which have nothing to do with her, just history:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-begins-the-2016-campaign-and-its-a-toss-up/
He still gives her a 50% chance if things are going well before the election. I'm pretty sure the GOP is planning an 'October Surprise,' as they brag about how well those have worked in the past.
George II
(67,782 posts)The first analysis is telling, she's gotten more Senate endorsements earlier than probably any candidate in history, and she's been building on those since the article was written in April.
She's maintained solid support since early this year, still more than all other opponents (including "not sure"!) combined. Yes, there was a "Sanders Surge" in the May/June timeframe, but that just got him from single digits to mid-teens, where he seems to have leveled off.
I'd be interested in an updated assessment to the 50% conclusion from back in April. At that time there wasn't yet a clown car full of republican hopefuls and there wasn't a Donald Trump in play. My guess is that he'd see her at better than 50% with those developments.
Overall, it's looking very good for Hillary Clinton. That's probably why she was mentioned dozens of times at the republican debate on Thursday, Sanders not once.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,240 posts)That's why they want a thousand debates. I didn't watch the Republican debates, but I'm guessing BS didn't come up much. They know who our nominee will be, and their operatives are all over the place, including here, trying to prevent it.
George II
(67,782 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)They mean nothing, have no basis in fact and are just useless drivel but, you get to annoy everyone here so, I guess you have accomplished something for yourself today.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Everyone who runs for POTUS is doing it for power
Everyone who is running has a big ego -- all of them
Our job is to choose someone who can be successful in a general election AND who can deliver most of what we want.
So, a few may be sick of Clinton and Bush but they both will end up being the nominees. The fringe candidates always make headlines and draw crowds of disgruntled and depressed and unstable people but don't end up on the tickets.
Now ... you may want to choose another forum.
Cha
(297,655 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)riversedge
(70,299 posts)Not sure if I understand this chart too well but you can remove all filters to get the totals:
http://polling.reuters.com/#!response/TR131/type/smallest/dates/20150610-20150807/collapsed/false