Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumJane Sanders on MSNBC this morning, saying that news media are NOT allowed to say
that there is already a Democratic nominee. Andrea should've asked what's keeping the tax returns and if she had any comment on Burlington College's dire financial woes.
Chris Cilliza says that it's disingenuous to say that there's no nominee because neither have enough pledged delegates, and that the Sanders camp "made that up".
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)to be bothered with asking where the tax returns are or trying to get her comment on the dire straits of Burlington College. I would've been more interested in that rather than her LYING that there isn't already a Democratic nominee and using that LIE that only pledged delegates count. Even so, Andrea should've then pointed out that Senator Obama never reached 2,117 with pledged delegates and he was still considered the presumptive nominee for the Democratic Party.
sarae
(3,284 posts)because there are so many follow-up questions they don't ask, like the ones you mentioned above.
Where are the tax returns, Jane? Why do you keep stalling on them? Why was it ok to call Obama the presumptive nominee, but not Clinton? Why does B.S. complain about the process being undemocratic but he's A-OK with undemocratic caucuses? So many questions...they've had it easy.
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)argue that the obvious winning side has to win with pledged delegates alone. Certainly not when there's literally no way in hell the obvious losing side is going to make it to 2,383 with pledged delegate either.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)losing. They darn well know what the rules are, but they keep LYING in order to not have to leave the race that they've already lost, before they do as much damage to the Democratic Party as they can.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Fifty percent of 4,765 is 2,382 1/2. To win is to get 1/2 a delegate more than your rival, making the magic number in pledged and unpledged (super) delegates: 2,383.
So Jane Sanders is LYING and Andrea Mitchell is letting her.
brer cat
(24,544 posts)to tell the media what they can and cannot report. Losers are rarely asked to set the policy for them.
pandr32
(11,572 posts)...by Jane.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)before the interview? Then the blame falls on Andrea "I detest the Clintons" Mitchell for allowing this charade.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)The media can't function ratings-wise unless both the primary and the general elections are seen as suspenseful to viewers. They learned this in 1996, when the first Clinton walked away with almost the entire country and the nightly news seemed like a perpetual rerun of "Bill's Still Ahead."
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)The whole world is not changing the rules to benefit Bernie damn!
And where the hell are the TAX RETURNS Jane????
Cha
(297,029 posts)Mahalo, BlueCali~
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)on? I can't.
And you're very welcome!
Cha
(297,029 posts)down our throats 24/freaking/7..
Is it any wonder reasonable people are sick to ******* death of them?
BlueCali
HillareeeHillaraah
(685 posts)...the 3 hour Trumpapalooza that MSNBC broadcasts every weekday morning from 6-9?
You'd be hard pressed to hear any positive Clinton coverage out of MSNBC.
Damn shame too.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)made there - otherwise her actions could see seen as outright fraud, right? That said, they knew the rules before they ran under the Democratic Party banner. They also knew their followers have no clue. That's what they're - literally - banking on, and it's the job of the media (were they not all propaganda outlets) to call them on their b.s..
The only people they dog when it comes to getting answers, is Hillary Clinton. Every other candidate has always gotten a pass.
SunSeeker
(51,545 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)She just sat there letting the woman LIE while accusing "the media" of aiding and abetting Hillary Clinton by saying that the primaries are all but over and Democrats have their Democratic nominee. And she said it with that annoying smile of hers, too.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)the media are not "allowed" to say there is a Democratic nominee? What's the penalty, Jane? You'll refuse interviews? Good!
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)the actual facts of ALL democratic primaries since the inception of super delegates
June 7th I can't wait
june 16th I can't wait
nov 8 will be a great celebration for america electing our first female president who took the abuse and defeated 2 male egos and the media
mark my words
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)And we can finally shatter that thick, almost unbreakable glass ceiling once and for all.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)msongs
(67,381 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)not cool!!
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Republicans would be buying millions in attack-ads that would air 24/7 and Sanders would be all over it at his rallies to get attention.
But it's Jane O'Meara, so it's a-ok.
Not cool AT ALL.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)We will realize this part was .... you know... not all that.
Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)You do it my way, or else. Because you can't possibly know what you're doing. Because I know better!!!
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)mercuryblues
(14,526 posts)Well I think CNN and MSNBC should listen to the communications director of the DNC who said don't count those super delegates, until they actually vote. You don't count the pledged delegates until they actually vote. So, yes. he's 272 votes, pledged delegates behind Secretary Clinton and it is a steep climb. But the fact is he's won a number of races by large margins. By 70,75,82,86%.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)with very few delegates. Hillary Clinton wins in large, delegate-rich primary States. She even won Nebraska and Washington State when they held their primary just a week or so ago. However, I don't hear Sanders saying that caucuses are undemocratic and rigged and that because Hillary won both Nebraska and Washington State handily, she should get the pledged delegates of those States, do I?
Also, you can make the case that, if we don't tally the superdelegates now we shouldn't tally the pledged delegates now, either, since they, just like the superdelegates, don't cast their vote until the Democratic Convention, either. And seeing that Sanders won the delegates from Nebraska and Washington State via the undemocratic caucus system and Hillary Clinton won them per one-person-one-vote, shouldn't *she* get those States' delegates?
It's not only the 274+ pledged delegates that makes the climb for him steep. It's the fact that he's behind by 3 million plus popular vote with no chance of catching up - even in California. And after denigrating one of the best governors in CA history as being part of the "establishment", he's bernt his bridges here. Governor Moonbeam has been the most liberal governor I know, and the fact that he got over his deep dislike of the Clintons and publicly endorsed Hillary, tells you that the governor with a 77% approval rating is not the man Sanders should want to go toe to toe with. If he's smart. Because Governor Brown is known for hitting back hard when unfairly attacked.
mercuryblues
(14,526 posts)on Blitzer. By saying that the pledged delegates haven't voted yet and shouldn't be counted, she is implying that no votes count. Since no delegates count, Bernie will win, somehow. The more she talks the less I like Bernie.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Perhaps, in the future and to avoid misunderstandings and confusion, you might want to put someone's quoted words between quotation marks? Just a suggestion.
mercuryblues
(14,526 posts)I knew when I posted it, something looked wrong. I was flabbergasted by her insinuation that Clinton and Bernie were basically tied, because no votes have been cast at the convention, that I just hit post after transcribing that part of the interview.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)"I was flabbergasted by her insinuation that Clinton and Bernie were basically tied, because no votes have been cast at the convention"
You could've knocked me over with a feather when I heard it. I was like, WHY doesn't Andrea say something??!
DLCWIdem
(1,580 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,825 posts)than Facebook. You are limited in the amount of text in your responses but I think it can work.
When posting in twitter remember to include a period in front of their name. That causes it to be viewed beyond just your friends and the primary person you are tweeting. So instead of @janeosanders use .@janeosanders
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)eom