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Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:46 PM Jun 2016

Why can’t Sanders admit defeat? He’s looking more and more foolish as he denies Hillary’s victory

Sanders has lost the primary on every level, making his insistence that he should win anyway subtly sexist

Over the weekend, Hillary Clinton won a couple more primary races — in Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands — expanding her already substantial lead over Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primary contest. But Sanders refuses to give up the ghost, insinuating that he must, on some level, be the real winner and that this fight has to be taken to the convention so he can snatch the prize he clearly believes belongs to him, even as the voters continue disagreeing.

“Mr. Sanders,” the New York Times reports, “insists that the convention will be contested because he is still lobbying superdelegates — party officials and state leaders who cast their final votes at the convention — to withdraw support from Mrs. Clinton and back him instead.”

“It is extremely unlikely that Secretary Clinton will have the requisite number of pledged delegates to claim victory on Tuesday night,” Sanders said during a news conference Saturday. “Now, I have heard reports that Secretary Clinton has said it’s all going to be over on Tuesday night. I have reports that the media, after the New Jersey results come in, are going to declare that it is all over. That simply is not accurate.”

It’s a frustrating argument, because Sanders spent most of the campaign portraying superdelegates as some kind of corrupt elites there to deprive the popular winner of the vote. But now that Clinton is the clear winner of the popular vote, suddenly the superdelegates are legitimate again.

Calvinball antics during elections are hardly anything new — remember “hanging chads”? — but even by those standards, this is headache-inducing pretzel logic. It’s clear the only principle being employed by the Sanders camp is that the only rules that are legitimate are the ones that lead to his win.

To make it worse, Sanders is using some fuzzy math with his pledged delegates argument. Even if the superdelegate system evaporated tomorrow, Clinton would still win. According to the New York Times primary calendar, there are 4,175 pledged delegates total in the Democratic primary. If we’re just counting pledged delegates and not superdelegates, the number Clinton needs to hit to win is 2,088. She only needs to win 281 delegates to hit that number and win the pledged delegate count. In contrast, Sanders needs to win 571 delegates in order to win the pledged delegates.


continues ... http://www.salon.com/2016/06/06/why_cant_sanders_admit_defeat_hes_looking_more_and_more_foolish_as_he_denies_hillarys_victory/
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Why can’t Sanders admit defeat? He’s looking more and more foolish as he denies Hillary’s victory (Original Post) Her Sister Jun 2016 OP
Sanders toast now with the report on 2008 and Bernie... beachbumbob Jun 2016 #1
Good read. DURHAM D Jun 2016 #2
OT: Has Sanders released their fundraising numbers yet? Hillary did it on the 1st of this month. BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #3
He requested an extension, I believe. Koinos Jun 2016 #4
You're joking, right? eom BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #5
As I recall, he asked to submit his paperwork 45 days late. Koinos Jun 2016 #8
I like the comments in that link! Her Sister Jun 2016 #10
Nice way to keep information away from voters. Koinos Jun 2016 #12
k and r niyad Jun 2016 #6
Amanda Marcotte? I won't feed Salon by clicking on it, but it reads like the rational articles of BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #7
She is one of the only ones that's been on HRC's camp from the start, I believe Her Sister Jun 2016 #9
I follow her on Twitter, but I haven't been checking lately as I'm on business travel. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #11
K&R brer cat Jun 2016 #13
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
1. Sanders toast now with the report on 2008 and Bernie...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:50 PM
Jun 2016

What can he plead...he is senile or it's different because it's just a woman this time!?!!

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
3. OT: Has Sanders released their fundraising numbers yet? Hillary did it on the 1st of this month.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:58 PM
Jun 2016

Usually, Sanders' campaign releases the numbers before Hillary Clinton!

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
10. I like the comments in that link!
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:39 PM
Jun 2016

Yes, he got extension til June 14th I believe! last day of the Primary!

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
12. Nice way to keep information away from voters.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:43 PM
Jun 2016

I thought he was opposed to "low information voters." Guess I was wrong.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
7. Amanda Marcotte? I won't feed Salon by clicking on it, but it reads like the rational articles of
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:32 PM
Jun 2016

Amanda Marcotte that I remember reading before Salon's integrity shat the bed.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
9. She is one of the only ones that's been on HRC's camp from the start, I believe
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:35 PM
Jun 2016

I have her bookmarked so I just read her articles in salon.com:

http://www.salon.com/writer/amanda_marcotte/

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
11. I follow her on Twitter, but I haven't been checking lately as I'm on business travel.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:42 PM
Jun 2016

Marcotte has had to put up with some of the most vicious attacks from Salon's Sanders supporters. They try to claim that her support for Clinton is the same as 7 other guys' support for Bernie Sanders.

Which is rather hilarious, as all that does is show just how worthless the opinions of the 7 dudebro authors really are, if they're offset by just one smart and well-written woman.

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