Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
44 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Apparently I am fighting a losing battle for the healing process. (Original Post) William769 Jun 2016 OP
I think it will be easier after Today! Her Sister Jun 2016 #1
I tried!! OKNancy Jun 2016 #2
Me too Rose Siding Jun 2016 #17
I hear you William, and do understand and appreciate the effort. I think a lot of the Hillary still_one Jun 2016 #3
The irony is that if one dares to step into that group question everything Jun 2016 #37
Yes it is still_one Jun 2016 #39
Jeffrey freaking Sachs just made it nigh on to impossible to heal anything. displacedtexan Jun 2016 #4
Jeffery Sachs is completely unhinged. He can barely LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #6
I saw that. DURHAM D Jun 2016 #7
Yes, he is that guy. displacedtexan Jun 2016 #9
Sanders hasn't even begun paying for that stunt. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #13
The shenanigans in NV BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #29
That was some serious stupid right there. nolabear Jun 2016 #11
Its not that bad really. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #5
You can't force the healing. Give them some time to process the outcome. Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #8
agree spooky3 Jun 2016 #20
See you then. Take care. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #10
Take heart from our wonderfully wise President. UtahLib Jun 2016 #12
I got downright excited a couple... LAS14 Jun 2016 #14
Healing can't be one-sided. Koinos Jun 2016 #15
But you don't have to jump in every fight, kick evey angry, stupid thread that divides us all Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #21
Good advice. Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #22
Hate is always both destructive and self-destructive. Koinos Jun 2016 #23
He already has started making real steps to unity, he is behaving now in a way that calls all of us Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #24
I don't disagree with your sentiment. Koinos Jun 2016 #25
Well count me in as one of those working for unity while keeping my eyes open Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #26
I believe that Elizabeth Warren will play a big role in bringing about unity. Koinos Jun 2016 #28
I don't expect much reaction from him on endorsements until after DC Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #32
It's not what he says, but what he does that will count. Koinos Jun 2016 #33
I love your optimism and hope that BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #30
Well said! DesertRat Jun 2016 #27
This will stop shortly, we have positive news about Hillary and the Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #16
Watch the president's video again... wysi Jun 2016 #18
William, thanks for your efforts. I think just as it will take time for some Sanders supporters spooky3 Jun 2016 #19
I admit that I engaged on a thread about the e-mail issue and the indictment fairy Gothmog Jun 2016 #31
While I applaud Coolest Ranger Jun 2016 #34
That doesn't stop you, or us collectively, from being able to do the right thing. Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #36
I don't Coolest Ranger Jun 2016 #38
awesome, perfect response Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #41
I bow to you Coolest Ranger Jun 2016 #42
^^^This!^^^ Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #43
K&R this. We need to do better as a community. Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #35
Hey Bill DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #40
They will soon be officially "persona non grata". See you then. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #44

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
17. Me too
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:55 PM
Jun 2016

I made positive posts but there's just too much end of campaign wacky going down not to talk about any of it.

And I just sat on the losing end of a jury that decided not to hide a rah rah vote for Jill Stein post grr

still_one

(92,061 posts)
3. I hear you William, and do understand and appreciate the effort. I think a lot of the Hillary
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:36 PM
Jun 2016

bashing that had been going on for months left a lot of anger.

It will get better

question everything

(47,434 posts)
37. The irony is that if one dares to step into that group
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 08:23 PM
Jun 2016

and to see how they are complaining about DU, how they want their money back, etc.

And to think how slanted DU has been. We've all seen the bias in hiding pro Hillary and anti Sanders posts while keeping the same one alive and kicking. And now they are whining about DU and Skinner?

They need to grow up.... like most of his voters.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
4. Jeffrey freaking Sachs just made it nigh on to impossible to heal anything.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:39 PM
Jun 2016

He just said that Bernie should be able to pick Clinton's Cabinet members.

It's. Far. From. Over.

LuvLoogie

(6,913 posts)
6. Jeffery Sachs is completely unhinged. He can barely
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:41 PM
Jun 2016

contain his manic hatred of Hillary Clinton. A real Norman Bates.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
9. Yes, he is that guy.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:53 PM
Jun 2016

If BS suporters still need to blame someone besides BS for their massive loss, this is the guy they should look to. His Pope Jumping The Shark stunt is when the campaign truly began to collapse.

SunSeeker

(51,512 posts)
13. Sanders hasn't even begun paying for that stunt.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:17 PM
Jun 2016

Wait until the FEC is through with him after he sent 10 relatives on a Roman holiday with campaign cash.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
29. The shenanigans in NV
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jun 2016

to overturn the Feb caucus vote happened the weekend before the Pope-related brouhaha. The NV event was when I became very disappointed with Bernie and his campaign. But the "Pope Jumping the Shark stunt" - as you put it so well - is when I became thoroughly disillusioned.

Unfortunately, I have seen no reason yet to become "illusioned" again. I keep hoping, but so far ... no.

With advisors like Sachs, Bernie needed no enemies.

nolabear

(41,932 posts)
11. That was some serious stupid right there.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:59 PM
Jun 2016

Who the hell has he been listening to, because it isn't Bernie!

Arkansas Granny

(31,507 posts)
8. You can't force the healing. Give them some time to process the outcome.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:49 PM
Jun 2016

There are a lot of hurt feelings right now. Skinner has already given them a time frame so why don't we just stick to that. There's no sense in stirring them up at this point.

LAS14

(13,769 posts)
14. I got downright excited a couple...
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:20 PM
Jun 2016

... of days ago when the lengthy list of responses to a Bernie supporter congratulating Hillary had way more positive replies than negative. Not typical of GDP. I thought it might signal a turning of the tide.

Maru Kitteh

(28,313 posts)
21. But you don't have to jump in every fight, kick evey angry, stupid thread that divides us all
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:08 PM
Jun 2016

Just stop feeding the trolls.


Follow the example of our candidate and ignore/dismiss the haters. Reinforce the positive threads and posters. Don't reward the negative behavior of haters with hate.


It's better for our community and for our candidate.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
23. Hate is always both destructive and self-destructive.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:44 PM
Jun 2016

I have already trashed and, for quite some time, not gone near the Sanders Group and the GDP Forum.

However, it was the candidate himself who stoked the hatred in many of his followers. They are not all paid trolls. And he is not an innocent politician. His hatred for Democrats has been brewing for many years.

I feel sorry for his followers. I hope they get better on their own, since their leader isn't helping very much.

I will not stop criticizing him until he decides to behave like a responsible adult. Having followed his character and behavior during this primary, I am not optimistic that he is even capable of changing course. This is not your usual political contest.

Maru Kitteh

(28,313 posts)
24. He already has started making real steps to unity, he is behaving now in a way that calls all of us
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:10 PM
Jun 2016

to put down our swords.

He is seeing the game through the last few minutes of play in DC. He's said he will be talking with Hillary very soon about how to unify. He's meeting with some of her top supporters on the hill with the same goal.

This was not your usual political contest, but they never are. And this one is over. Time to follow her lead and let it go. Work for unity instead of poking at raw wounds and things that divide us.

If there is anything less usual about this political contest, it is the genuine menace that lies on the other side. We need to get to work, and we need to work on doing it together.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
25. I don't disagree with your sentiment.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:18 PM
Jun 2016

But I don't trust Sanders. I will feel better if he cancels the protest gatherings in Philadelphia. There is a bit of a trickster in him.

I sincerely hope that this all plays out well, but I have the right to remain skeptical. Sanders has unresolved issues that lie at the heart of his campaign.

I hope my suspicions are unfounded and your optimism is justified. We'll soon see. But I am not a provocateur, in any case.

I'm sure there are others who also believe that we must work for unity, but also watch our backs.

Maru Kitteh

(28,313 posts)
26. Well count me in as one of those working for unity while keeping my eyes open
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:38 PM
Jun 2016

for trouble. It would be irresponsible not to.

But I think we do need to keep our sights set further on the horizon, and reach out our hands, so that we may gather in as many to our shared goals as possible.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
28. I believe that Elizabeth Warren will play a big role in bringing about unity.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:55 PM
Jun 2016

We'll see what happens after her announcement tonight. How will Sanders react? That will be the key.

Maru Kitteh

(28,313 posts)
32. I don't expect much reaction from him on endorsements until after DC
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jun 2016

And I can understand why. He's still looking for votes in DC. What's he going to say? I think endorsements of the other person on the ballot are great?

Next week, he'll suspend. As fast as he's moved thus far, I expect to see him on the trail with Hillary very, very soon.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
33. It's not what he says, but what he does that will count.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 07:29 PM
Jun 2016

As far as his verbal response is concerned, he could say a lot of things without saying he agrees with the endorsement.

He could have said something today, in response to the reporter's question, without agreeing with Obama's endorsement. He could have said he was disappointed. His silence was deafening.

And I do not think he will suspend next week. He will hold on until the convention. Let's see whether he cancels the protest gatherings in Philadelphia. JMHO.

Anyway, his speech this evening will tell us a lot.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
16. This will stop shortly, we have positive news about Hillary and the
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:39 PM
Jun 2016

Endorsements rolling in, love these posts, trying to stay out of GD-P, a lot of good OP here in the Hillary group.

spooky3

(34,405 posts)
19. William, thanks for your efforts. I think just as it will take time for some Sanders supporters
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:04 PM
Jun 2016

to process everything and move to the next phase, it also takes time for some Clinton supporters. The reasons are obviously different, but both need time.

Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
31. I admit that I engaged on a thread about the e-mail issue and the indictment fairy
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 07:07 PM
Jun 2016

Sorry but there will be no indictment and the law is clear that one has to have a culpable mental state to commit a crime.

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
34. While I applaud
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 07:31 PM
Jun 2016

what you tried to do, the Bernie supporters I been running into don't want to be healed or unified.

Maru Kitteh

(28,313 posts)
36. That doesn't stop you, or us collectively, from being able to do the right thing.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 08:20 PM
Jun 2016

Don't feed the haters. Don't fuel the hate and division by responding in kind.

Ignore or dismiss the negativity you run into and choose instead to reinforce positive posts and posters. Don't reward the negative behavior of attention-seekers with your attention.

Maru Kitteh

(28,313 posts)
41. awesome, perfect response
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 08:35 PM
Jun 2016

I used to be quite guilty of jumping into every scrum. It was a hard habit to break.

I still make no promises on Susan Sarandon though. That's a bridge too far.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Hillary Clinton»Apparently I am fighting ...