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Walk away

(9,494 posts)
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 09:11 AM Jun 2016

The L.A. Times calls Bernie as they see him and it's not good!

Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign ended with what had become his standard pitch in recent months as his odds of defeating Hillary Clinton dimmed: a long list of demands for the Democratic Party, a host of thinly veiled insults against party leaders and no recognition for the woman who outdistanced him in the popular vote and delegates en route to clinching the presidential nomination.

Sanders never mentioned Clinton’s historic accomplishment except by inference when he said that his campaign henceforth would be about “defeating Donald Trump.” He never actually said that Clinton had defeated him, or even that he was bowing out of the race, despite the fact that there are no more primaries to contest.

The absence of typical political grace by the defeated candidate was reminiscent of another insurgent inveighing against the establishment: Democrat Jerry Brown never got around to endorsing Bill Clinton in 1992 after the future president became his party’s nominee.

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http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-bernie-sanders-analysis-20160617-snap-story.html
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The L.A. Times calls Bernie as they see him and it's not good! (Original Post) Walk away Jun 2016 OP
K&R! DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #1
Thinly veieiled insults suns hint up well Cary Jun 2016 #2
He ignored the south but now he's for a 50 state strategy? MattP Jun 2016 #3
yeah, don't pay attention to his history or what he's said or does.. just Cha Jun 2016 #5
As usual, Cha--you nailed it! pandr32 Jun 2016 #28
Aloha, pandr! Cha Jun 2016 #40
I want to know why the **** his campaign isn't ENDING when all the Primaries are OVER.. Cha Jun 2016 #4
I think someone convinced him that the indictment fairy was a real possibility. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #24
He's sending a message alright.. and it's Cha Jun 2016 #25
THIS really bothers me that he can't find it in himself to formally AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #35
The statements below are also spot on .... BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #6
No one has mentioned his giant ego.. I guess it's understood.. Cha Jun 2016 #11
I am seeing his ego more and more as time goes on. AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #34
Exactly, AS.. He never gave President Obama any credit either.. and Big Mistake on BS' part. Cha Jun 2016 #41
I think he is making big mistakes now. Wasn't there an article AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #44
Yes, it was in politico.. basically his managers threw him under the bus by Cha Jun 2016 #46
His words in 1991 ring true even today. BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #29
Yes, and it only got worse since then.. thank you for that, BlueCali! Cha Jun 2016 #42
Truth hurts, that's for sure. AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #36
"no recognition for the woman who outdistanced him" Rose Siding Jun 2016 #7
And, this wanted to be president when he can't even admit reality? Cha Jun 2016 #12
As I said elsewhere, "graceless and gauche" define the The Berned Out One's campaign end... Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #8
K&R mcar Jun 2016 #9
Read it, was going to post it on GDP but hesitated question everything Jun 2016 #10
I trashed GDP and Bernie months ago. I stay out of the "Dark Corners" of the internet. Walk away Jun 2016 #13
lol@dark corners of the internet.. ain't that the truth. Cha Jun 2016 #15
I trashed them also. I've checked back a couple of times, but don't spend any time there. Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #31
I stopped in today after this discussion! Walk away Jun 2016 #33
Great column. Thanks. Pretty much sums up the Bernie Sander's legacy. Fla Dem Jun 2016 #14
Mahalo for all the reminders of BS' past actions.. there's so much disrespect it's hard to Cha Jun 2016 #18
Spot on Cha. After 35 years in government, he finally becomes active. Fla Dem Jun 2016 #20
Bernie will finally be forced to show his Tax Returns when he runs against Al Gaudino in 2018... Walk away Jun 2016 #19
What a horse's ass Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2016 #30
BS wants to drag this for some reason. Her Sister Jun 2016 #16
I still think he needs the $$$ plus he seems to want to bully the Democratic Party... Walk away Jun 2016 #32
THIS: "The absence of typical political grace by the defeated candidate..." NurseJackie Jun 2016 #17
Right now I don't care if he runs for president for the next one hundred years, We the People Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #21
I think he and his deluded supporters don't believe that they actually got less votes AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #37
Yes, they have an expert (CT expert) who can show you how it works. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #39
My favorite comment BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #22
Not only will there be no revolution, but there will be no political livetohike Jun 2016 #23
He's got his little group of worshipers workinclasszero Jun 2016 #27
And according to the NYT today, jehop61 Jun 2016 #26
Remember when they touted him going coach? So much for that. Nt AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #38
WOW $38,000 A DAY! He sound be ousted for Wasting Tax Payers' $$$$$$$$$$ Cha Jun 2016 #47
Jerry Brown left politics after that display for quite some time. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #43
If Sanders has spent so much time murielm99 Jun 2016 #45

Cha

(296,679 posts)
5. yeah, don't pay attention to his history or what he's said or does.. just
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 09:28 AM
Jun 2016

pay attention to the latest thing he's trying to take credit for.

Cha

(296,679 posts)
4. I want to know why the **** his campaign isn't ENDING when all the Primaries are OVER..
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 09:26 AM
Jun 2016

Does somebody need to hand him a damn calendar?


In making his list a set of demands, Sanders put himself in the awkward position of a distant second-place finisher insisting on fealty from the winner.

Bingo, burnie.

Mahalo, Walk away.

TwilightZone

(25,418 posts)
24. I think someone convinced him that the indictment fairy was a real possibility.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 11:02 AM
Jun 2016

Most reasonable people believe otherwise, but there aren't too many other explanations for why he's still in the race. The whole "I'm trying to send a message" thing doesn't work when one got hammered in the primaries.

Cha

(296,679 posts)
25. He's sending a message alright.. and it's
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 11:25 AM
Jun 2016

that he's going for the poorest loser ever in a Democratic Primary for President.

Hillary showed him how to do lose with dignity and grace.. But, he has his head too far ** *** *** to take notice.

She was a graceful loser and look @ where she is now.

It's either as you suggest... that someone like HA Goodman convinced BS that Hillary will be indicted any day now.. Or, burnie just isn't mentally capable of admitting that he lost to the Woman he's been disingenuously demonizing for the last year.

He's definitely showing the world what a terrible potus he would have made.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
35. THIS really bothers me that he can't find it in himself to formally
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 06:58 PM
Jun 2016

Concede to Hillary. Honestly, this has ripped off the blinders for me. It has nothing to do with the fact about his voters or getting them to vote for Hillary. Once GE season starts, I think most will pivot and do what is right. It is the fact that he can't concede. I don't buy that he is in it to keep his word. I think he fell for the limelight and the sense of power. Or he certainly acts like someone who is deluded by it: making demands to a party that he was using to win and yet, when it comes down to it, all he can do is disparage all his democratic colleagues. What the heck is wrong with him? I have never seen a sore loser like this.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
6. The statements below are also spot on ....
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 09:37 AM
Jun 2016
Those earlier remarks enraged Democrats—and Thursday’s were likely to rankle, as well—because many have been fighting to change the party from within even as Sanders, a longtime independent, remained outside of it. As they tell it, Sanders has basically suggested that a party that includes civil rights legends like John Lewis and longtime economic and environmental battlers like Barbara Boxer has been far less interested than he is in racial, economic and environmental justice.


and

The issues include some, such as pay equity for women and abortion rights, which Clinton has championed for at least as long as he has. Others, including equal rights for same-sex marriage, comprehensive immigration reform and expansion of benefits for Social Security recipients, now have broad acceptance in the party.


and

In making his list a set of demands, Sanders put himself in the awkward position of a distant second-place finisher insisting on fealty from the winner.

Sanders blamed the current leadership of the Democratic Party for a host of failures, persisting in his long battle against party chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz. (There was some irony to his claim that Democrats needed a 50-state strategy, since earlier this year Sanders repeatedly dismissed Clinton’s romping victories in Southern states because they occurred in “the most conservative part” of the country that would vote Republican in November.)[div]

Cha

(296,679 posts)
11. No one has mentioned his giant ego.. I guess it's understood..
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 09:51 AM
Jun 2016
Sanders has basically suggested that a party that includes civil rights legends like John Lewis and longtime economic and environmental battlers like Barbara Boxer has been far less interested than he is in racial, economic and environmental justice.

BS is the big cheese and no one else matters.. only him.

I don't see how people can read this and not get sick of him.

Mahalo, Blue, for the excerpts.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
34. I am seeing his ego more and more as time goes on.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 06:46 PM
Jun 2016

He acts like he developed progressive ideals and it bothers me to no end that he not only doesn't give credit where credit is due, but he seems to think he is a messiah. He seems to have forgotten that he couldn't be where he is without the tireless work of democratic heros like Barbara Boxer, John Lewis, Kennedy, Wellstone, etc. that preceded him. He is not the FIRST. And he certainly isn't the only person with progressive ideals.

He is so ungracious and self centered. I can't stand him anymore.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
44. I think he is making big mistakes now. Wasn't there an article
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 11:52 PM
Jun 2016

Where one of his insiders spilled the beans and said they couldn't understand why he is doing what he is doing? Where he is undermining his own campaign and wouldn't take anyone else's advice? IAE, It will all be over soon enough.

Cha

(296,679 posts)
46. Yes, it was in politico.. basically his managers threw him under the bus by
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 11:56 PM
Jun 2016

saying he made all the decisions.

And, we know they've all been bad ones. So bad.

Cha

(296,679 posts)
42. Yes, and it only got worse since then.. thank you for that, BlueCali!
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 11:43 PM
Jun 2016


burnie's done.. now he's just wasting our tax payers' money on his SS detail.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
8. As I said elsewhere, "graceless and gauche" define the The Berned Out One's campaign end...
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 09:45 AM
Jun 2016
The absence of typical political grace by the defeated candidate was reminiscent of another insurgent inveighing against the establishment: Democrat Jerry Brown never got around to endorsing Bill Clinton in 1992 after the future president became his party’s nominee.

question everything

(47,407 posts)
10. Read it, was going to post it on GDP but hesitated
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 09:49 AM
Jun 2016

Especially this paragraph:

In making his list a set of demands, Sanders put himself in the awkward position of a distant second-place finisher insisting on fealty from the winner.

=====

Not awkward for him, not for his supporters, if one dares read GDP.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
13. I trashed GDP and Bernie months ago. I stay out of the "Dark Corners" of the internet.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 10:22 AM
Jun 2016

I can't imagine wanting to hear what anyone there has to say about anything.

Arkansas Granny

(31,504 posts)
31. I trashed them also. I've checked back a couple of times, but don't spend any time there.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 03:10 PM
Jun 2016

I can't wait til tomorrow.

Fla Dem

(23,547 posts)
14. Great column. Thanks. Pretty much sums up the Bernie Sander's legacy.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 10:38 AM
Jun 2016

He wore out his welcome about 2 months ago. He's a bully and a typical "Johnny Come Lately". He came late to the party and wants to take credit for everything. I also detect misogyny in his behavior directed at HRC and DWS. He is very dismissive of females.

Remember him dismissing of the female reporter in LA?

http://theslot.jezebel.com/bernie-sanders-has-testy-exchange-with-reporter-who-ask-1780851405
“Excuse me,” he says five times, as she tries to speak.

“I’m asking a question,” she shoots back.

“Other hands are up as well,” he tells her, attempting to call on someone named Jeff.

Alcindor’s question, when she was permitted to talk: “What do you say to women who say that you staying in the race is sexist, because you’re standing in the way of what could be the first female president?”

“Is that a serious question?” Sanders asked, laugh-scoffing.


And then we have him shoving Jane to stand behind him on stage.
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And the total disrespect he showed toward HRC during the debates, waving his fingers at her, shouting for her to stop talking because he was talking. The signs were there.

It's a pattern. So I don't expect him to be a man and treat her as an equal. It's not in him.

Oh and by the way...Where are your tax returns Bernie?

Cha

(296,679 posts)
18. Mahalo for all the reminders of BS' past actions.. there's so much disrespect it's hard to
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 10:44 AM
Jun 2016

keep up.

BS was late to the revolution, too.

HimForHer ?@ThomboyD
Look, the revolution began in 2008. Sorry you're mad about being 8 years late. We'll keep it moving along with or without you.
11:02 AM - 18 Jun 2016
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https://theobamadiary.com/2016/06/18/president-obama-delivers-remarks-at-the-sentinel-bridge/#comments

Fla Dem

(23,547 posts)
20. Spot on Cha. After 35 years in government, he finally becomes active.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 10:56 AM
Jun 2016

A grifter who will be begging the DNC to pay off his campaign debts.

Ciao amico!

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
19. Bernie will finally be forced to show his Tax Returns when he runs against Al Gaudino in 2018...
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 10:48 AM
Jun 2016

When Sanders runs as an Independent against our Democratic candidate, he will finally be forced to show us what he is hiding.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
32. I still think he needs the $$$ plus he seems to want to bully the Democratic Party...
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 03:50 PM
Jun 2016

It appears to be the consistent style of his campaign from the top down.

I think there will probably be plenty of Moderate Independents to replace the votes Bernie holds fast. The 2nd biggest mistake the party made was to give him a say in the convention platform.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
17. THIS: "The absence of typical political grace by the defeated candidate..."
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 10:43 AM
Jun 2016

... really sums it up for me. And if anyone dares mention it, they change the subject... "so I guess you like WAR, huh?" or "what have got against clean water?"

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
21. Right now I don't care if he runs for president for the next one hundred years, We the People
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 10:56 AM
Jun 2016

have made our selection, Hillary Clinton. We have an election to win, stopping to wait for his concession is not on my schedule.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
37. I think he and his deluded supporters don't believe that they actually got less votes
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 07:04 PM
Jun 2016

They truly think that every state he lost in was due to it being rigged. And now they are sitting there waiting for the indictment fairy. Jesus. I have no words for his bullshit anymore. ...

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
39. Yes, they have an expert (CT expert) who can show you how it works.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 07:43 PM
Jun 2016

Strange it only happens in States he lost.

livetohike

(22,116 posts)
23. Not only will there be no revolution, but there will be no political
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 11:01 AM
Jun 2016

career for Sanders (I) after his poor attitude and accusations of fraud. He needs to retire and relax at home.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
27. He's got his little group of worshipers
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 01:02 PM
Jun 2016

They can stroke his ego 24/7 after he drops the facade and returns to (I) as the grand leader of the internet troll revolution.

jehop61

(1,735 posts)
26. And according to the NYT today,
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 12:43 PM
Jun 2016

we taxpayers are paying $38,000 per day for his Secret Service protection while he remains a candidate. Loves them perks.....

murielm99

(30,712 posts)
45. If Sanders has spent so much time
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 11:53 PM
Jun 2016

and effort in Congress working for economic and environmental justice, where is the landmark legislation with his name all over it? Where is the Sanders Act, protecting the environment, the banking legislation called the Sanders-Smith Act, or the civil rights legislation called the Jones-Sanders Act? He has done nothing, and he wants credit for everything.

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