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riversedge

(70,093 posts)
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:07 PM Sep 2015

@BernieSanders: I won't be as naïve as Obama was with Congress (Hillary Grp)

Sanders just made up that scene.....


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Marv Dawson ?@Marv_Vien 26m26 minutes ago

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That "naive" President
-Got 16million people healthcare
-Averted economic depression
-Saved the auto industry
GTFO

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.@BernieSanders: I won't be as naïve as Obama was with Congress http://politi.co/1MEErNe | Getty


.............Sanders said that after a “brilliant campaign” Obama made a mistake by expecting that he could easily negotiate with the other party.

“He thought he could walk into Capitol Hill and the Oval Office and sit down with John Boehner and Mitch McConnell and the Republicans and say, ‘I can’t get it all. You can’t get it all. Let’s work out something that’s reasonable,’ because he’s a reasonable guy. He’s a pretty rational guy,” Sanders said. “These guys never had any intention of doing [serious] negotiating and compromising … I think it took the president too long to fully appreciate that.”

But Sanders didn't have a firm answer for how he would more successfully broker deals, saying the only way things will actually get done with a divided Congress is if the general population stays engaged in the political process and demand it.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/bernie-sanders-naive-obama-214222#ixzz3nBF21QzI

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@BernieSanders: I won't be as naïve as Obama was with Congress (Hillary Grp) (Original Post) riversedge Sep 2015 OP
This seems to be a pattern, a needless pattern. Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #1
I edited my OP because riversedge Sep 2015 #2
Yes, and it shows me how shallow he is. Cha Sep 2015 #14
Bernie is correct. Snap the Turtle Sep 2015 #3
Bernie is wrong.. and he gets nothing done. He also Lies about President Obama and it's documented Cha Sep 2015 #9
Bernie won't be able to move much in congress FloridaBlues Sep 2015 #16
Call me a cynic... msrizzo Sep 2015 #19
"will find a way" like what? treestar Oct 2015 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author postatomic Sep 2015 #4
And I have seen riversedge Sep 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author postatomic Sep 2015 #6
I was too young but I do read history. riversedge Sep 2015 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author postatomic Sep 2015 #11
People were motivated during Vietnam war upaloopa Oct 2015 #27
He's already thrown President Obama "under the bus" right here and when he wanted Cha Sep 2015 #10
Hahahaha. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #7
Right. President Obama has accomplished so much and instead of acknowledging that.. Cha Sep 2015 #12
I think BS needs to stop trying to spread what was going on in President Obama's mind.. he Cha Sep 2015 #13
A lot of negative feedback on Twiiter regarding that statement from BS, riversedge. Cha Sep 2015 #15
Right you are cha! FloridaBlues Sep 2015 #17
"Says candidate who constantly makes broad promises that would never make it through Congress." Cha Sep 2015 #18
"But Sanders didn't have a firm answer..." Rose Siding Sep 2015 #20
So he doesn't attack fellow candidates... BooScout Sep 2015 #21
Right, Boo. BS "won't attack Hillary or O'Malley" but he'll lie about President Obama?!! WTF Cha Sep 2015 #22
He's like your annoying kook uncle who won't be quiet at Thanksgiving. ellisonz Oct 2015 #26
If he had spent as much time pushing through his progressive legislation as he's spent attacking PBO Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #23
Tell me why John Boehner just resigned again... ellisonz Oct 2015 #24
Also, how the heck is he going to get to 70-80% Democratic voters. ellisonz Oct 2015 #25

riversedge

(70,093 posts)
2. I edited my OP because
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:18 PM
Sep 2015

I read the article more thoroughly--and do not find the word 'naive' ---but in reading what Sanders said, it certainly is appropriate.

 

Snap the Turtle

(73 posts)
3. Bernie is correct.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:19 PM
Sep 2015

Obama assumed the Republicans would be amenable to him in Congress. Never was the case - and he learned the lesson the hard way.

Bernie knows exactly what he will face with Republicans in Congress (assuming the Democrats hasn't at least retaken one of the chambers or both via Bernie's coattails), and will be prepared, if necessary. Bernie will find a way to get the job done: Bernie has always added many amendments to benefit the people to many bills. That is one of Bernie's hidden talents that the M$M doesn't even mention or the Clinton supporters acknowledge - he gets things done.

I hope and pray Clinton can find success with the hurdle she does face if she is the President.

Good luck!

Cha

(296,875 posts)
9. Bernie is wrong.. and he gets nothing done. He also Lies about President Obama and it's documented
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:37 PM
Sep 2015

right here.

msrizzo

(796 posts)
19. Call me a cynic...
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 09:49 AM
Sep 2015

....but I can't take it on faith that Sanders will be more effective with Congress than he was as an actual member of both houses for many, many years.

Response to riversedge (Original post)

riversedge

(70,093 posts)
5. And I have seen
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:52 PM
Sep 2015

many Sander supporters support this idea. I think we would have to have massive Vietnam era marches to perhaps get done the things he wants to pass in Congress. IMHO

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upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
27. People were motivated during Vietnam war
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 05:33 PM
Oct 2015

because they didn't want to get their ass shot off.
Look at WI and KS and NC. People are getting kicked in the teeth daily yet they vote their tormentors back into office.
The people won't rise up. The best they can do is vote for Bernie because he is going to change everything. And Bernie says the people will change everything. When in actuality none of them will ever change shit!

Cha

(296,875 posts)
10. He's already thrown President Obama "under the bus" right here and when he wanted
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:39 PM
Sep 2015

him Primaried in 2012.

Cha

(296,875 posts)
12. Right. President Obama has accomplished so much and instead of acknowledging that..
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:53 PM
Sep 2015

he shoots the breeze about how he could do so much more.. but forgets to mention he hasn't accomplished anything substantial after 25 years in Congress.

I love how he's running against our popular Democratic President. Keep it up, BS.



Cha

(296,875 posts)
13. I think BS needs to stop trying to spread what was going on in President Obama's mind.. he
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:55 PM
Sep 2015

sucks at it.

And, he lies about Obama..

FloridaBlues

(4,007 posts)
17. Right you are cha!
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 07:05 AM
Sep 2015

Way to get the party behind him putting down the president.
Can you imagine if this was said against him! His supporters brains would explode

Cha

(296,875 posts)
18. "Says candidate who constantly makes broad promises that would never make it through Congress."
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 08:22 AM
Sep 2015

Adam James Platt ?@AdamPlatt1999 10h10 hours ago
Adam James Platt Retweeted POLITICO
Says candidate who constantly makes broad promises that would never make it through Congress.

I cannot wait until President Obama is out there campaigning for Hillary!

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
20. "But Sanders didn't have a firm answer..."
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 10:05 AM
Sep 2015

Exactly. Anyone who gets how govt works in the real world knows that.

A successful President has to be able to, at least beyond media glare, communicate with the opposition realistically.

BooScout

(10,406 posts)
21. So he doesn't attack fellow candidates...
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 11:16 AM
Sep 2015

...just a sitting DEMOCRATIC President, one who is so well liked he was elected twice.

The BS man has a lot of nerve calling Obama naive about Congress considering he himself has not done anything of any substance in the 25 years he's been in Congress.

Cha

(296,875 posts)
22. Right, Boo. BS "won't attack Hillary or O'Malley" but he'll lie about President Obama?!! WTF
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 07:17 PM
Sep 2015

is his misbegotten strategy?

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
26. He's like your annoying kook uncle who won't be quiet at Thanksgiving.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 05:24 PM
Oct 2015

Ignore the facts, present yourself as the only person capable of knowing the truth.

The truth is that Bernie Sanders is too self-absorbed and that's why as you note he's gotten nothing done.

Obama got a lot done, he's going down as a great president in the history books.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,222 posts)
23. If he had spent as much time pushing through his progressive legislation as he's spent attacking PBO
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 01:39 PM
Oct 2015

I'd have a whole lot more respect for him. BS is widely acclaimed for the crap he says, but on closer inspection, the meager things he's been able to do don't match the hype.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
24. Tell me why John Boehner just resigned again...
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 05:16 PM
Oct 2015

...oh maybe because he made deals with Obama?1?!?!?

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