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Cha

(297,137 posts)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:36 AM Dec 2015

Compare Hillary's & MO'M's Statement on the PCCA to BS's and check out the Tweets‏

"And, I’m quite impressed with Sec Clinton’s statement …"

Hillary Clinton
?@HillaryClinton
Hillary's statement on the Paris climate change agreement:
11:36 AM - 12 Dec 2015
792 792 Retweets 1,307 1,307 likes

Martin O'Malley's was very gracious and appreciative, too~
Martin O'Malley
?@MartinOMalley

Congrats #COP21 on the #ParisAgreement. The pact sets ambitious goals to fight climate change. As POTUS, I will hold the world to them. -O'M
9:55 AM - 12 Dec 2015
113 113 Retweets 225 225 likes

Bernie Sanders
?@SenSanders
While the #ParisAgreement is a step forward it goes nowhere near far enough. The planet is in crisis. We need bold action now.
[/img] myopinion

@RightonCarl
@SenSanders your lack of graciousness & support for this historic agreement is noted we look forward to your magic pixie dust presidency
11:10 AM - 12 Dec 2015 25 25 Retweets
13 13 likes

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/12/12/up-next-president-delivers-a-statement-on-the-climate-agreement/
Kat 4 Obama ?@Kat4Obama
POTUS has worked nearly 2 terms raising US climate performance, almost 200 countries unite, but not "bold" enough? https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/675774792121909248

meta ?@metaquest
@Kat4Obama Sanders is incapable of understanding incremental change, historic over time. His reflex is to whine & project bitter disappointment.
12:51 PM - 12 Dec 2015 21 21 Retweets
13 13 likes

NAILED IT!

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/12/12/up-next-president-delivers-a-statement-on-the-climate-agreement/

[/img] TheObamaDiary.com ?@TheObamaDiary · 5h5 hours ago
Jobs?
Obamacare?
Iran deal?
Cuba?
Marriage Equality?

Keystone?
Climate deal
Lame duck?

Bobfr ?@Our4thEstate
For a fella with an abysmal legislative record @BernieSanders, You should learn to be humble & grateful for @POTUS.
h/t @TheObamaDiary
3:13 PM - 12 Dec 2015
15 15 Retweets 8 8 likes

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/12/12/the-planet-thanks-you-president-obama/
Another statement on Sander's reaction to Paris Climate Change Agreement~

jackiegrumbacher
December 12, 2015 at 9:29 pm

Bernie Sanders simply doesn’t know when to be gracious or how to be respectful of others, which in and of itself disqualifies him for the presidency. He could not accomplish one millionth of what President Obama has done and only knows how to carp and minimize the work of others. He’s an irritating, petulant curmudgeon

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/12/12/the-planet-thanks-you-president-obama/

[font color=blue] Oh and Bonus from the President and his Team..[/font]

How US negotiators ensured landmark Paris climate deal was Republican-proof


At 11.30pm Paris time, a small group of White House officials dashed into a temporary plywood hut in the exhibition hall where, a few hours earlier, a historic legal agreement to cut emissions causing climate change was secured. They were just in time to catch a live feed of Barack Obama declaring “a turning point for the world”.

These were the officials who helped set the US negotiating position for the talks – or, perhaps more accurately, helped craft the deal according to US specifications in order to insulate Obama and the agreement from attacks.

When it came to Republicans in Congress, they wanted the agreement to be bullet-proof. That was no easy feat in a negotiation over an immensely complicated challenge involving nearly 200 countries, and half a dozen rival negotiating blocs.

“We met the moment,” Obama said in his address. The Paris agreement on its own would not end climate change, he said, but “this agreement will help delay or avoid some of the worst consequences of climate change, and will pave the way for even more progress, in successive stages, over the coming years”.

The rest of the fascinating story..
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/13/climate-change-paris-deal-cop21-obama-administration-congress-republicans-environment?CMP=share_btn_tw
[font color=blue]Hillary's Group~Mahalo[/font]
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Compare Hillary's & MO'M's Statement on the PCCA to BS's and check out the Tweets‏ (Original Post) Cha Dec 2015 OP
Getting the leaders from almost 200 countries together to discuss climate issues is a win win. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #1
SOS Hillary has the best statement on the Paris Climate Change Agreement, T! From her Cha Dec 2015 #4
No comparison, is there? Rose Siding Dec 2015 #2
Exacty Rose! There is no comparison.. Hillary's statement is as a future President who knows Cha Dec 2015 #5
Well researched and crafted...thanks. As noted above.. George II Dec 2015 #3
Isn't Hillary's statement on the #PCAA just magnificent?! It makes me so glad I'm Cha Dec 2015 #6
It's not enough. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #7
It's an excellent start 7 years in the making with all the 200 countries that have signed on.. Cha Dec 2015 #10
Here's a decent article that addresses why It didn't go farther ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #32
So true shenmue Dec 2015 #8
Mahalo shenmue! Cha Dec 2015 #11
I guess a few can magically make things happen with the 199 countries. Iliyah Dec 2015 #9
So very few.. so few Cha Dec 2015 #12
I was so happy to see this agreement become reality and Skidmore Dec 2015 #13
Hillary's statement was very supportive and inclusive, Skidmore.. I like the way you describe Cha Dec 2015 #14
OMG, that entire string of comments is hilarious--each one funnier than the next!!! MADem Dec 2015 #15
Grumpy cat.. LOL! poor little thing. Looks like somebody took his toy. Cha Dec 2015 #16
OMG! That pic is priceless. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2015 #22
Thanks for all your work in pulling this together cha. Wonderful to read. riversedge Dec 2015 #17
You're Welcome, Riversedge! I'm glad you got to see it.. Cha Dec 2015 #18
Excellent compilation. (TYVM!) NurseJackie Dec 2015 #19
You're absolutely Welcome, Jackie.. my distinct pleasure! Cha Dec 2015 #20
Bobfr ‎@Our4thEstate hit it out of the park. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2015 #21
I know Bob did! That's one reason I wanted to get this Cha Dec 2015 #23
+ 10000 This ^ misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #37
Good point. Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #43
The elf is busy-- A big REC and delighted to do so. riversedge Dec 2015 #24
Mahalo Hillary's Helper! Cha Dec 2015 #25
Great post Gothmog Dec 2015 #26
You're Welcome, Gothmog.. the President says it himself.. Cha Dec 2015 #28
K&R! stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #27
Thank you, stonecutter! Cha Dec 2015 #29
Bernie Sanders is "an irritating, petulant curmudgeon" Walk away Dec 2015 #30
So many people worked so long and diligently on this and Hillary recognizes that.. Cha Dec 2015 #35
"Magic pixie dust presidency" ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #31
Some people just Cha Dec 2015 #36
.."petulant curmudgeon". Nailed That One! misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #33
If you watched the (R) debates last night... yallerdawg Dec 2015 #34
He's irrelevant. There's a reason no one cares to know who he is. misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #38
Around here you'd think he was next POTUS. yallerdawg Dec 2015 #40
Truth. +1000^ misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #41
Cha, thank you for this OP. misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #39
You're Welcome, mister.. thank you! I just love what Hillary had to say about it.. Cha Dec 2015 #42
K&R mcar Dec 2015 #44
Mahalo mcar~ Cha Dec 2015 #46
Why can't posts like this Coolest Ranger Dec 2015 #45
Probably because kjones Dec 2015 #47

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. Getting the leaders from almost 200 countries together to discuss climate issues is a win win.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:43 AM
Dec 2015

Getting some agreements to control the climate affecting issues is a real beginning. Hillary had a very good statement, she is on target.

Cha

(297,137 posts)
4. SOS Hillary has the best statement on the Paris Climate Change Agreement, T! From her
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:02 AM
Dec 2015

experience in the field of negotiations and her experience as President Obama's SOS.. she knows the many years and diligent focus that went into this.

It's not to be taken lightly.. it's a BFD as VP Biden would say.. and at least one writer is saying when he wrote about the President's accomplishment on the #PCCA..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110231992

Thank you!

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
2. No comparison, is there?
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:46 AM
Dec 2015

One complains without recourse, others address the issue and a plan for success.

Cha

(297,137 posts)
5. Exacty Rose! There is no comparison.. Hillary's statement is as a future President who knows
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:14 AM
Dec 2015

what it takes to actually go through negotiations with all the countries represented and how she can build on that when she is POTUS.. and the other statement cavalierly says it's not good enough, basically.

Fortunately for the Planet it won't matter a bit whether he appreciates it or not.

George II

(67,782 posts)
3. Well researched and crafted...thanks. As noted above..
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:54 AM
Dec 2015

...just getting almost 200 countries in one place is a huge feat, getting them to agree is unprecedented.

And Clinton is on the money with her comments. Brava!

Cha

(297,137 posts)
6. Isn't Hillary's statement on the #PCAA just magnificent?! It makes me so glad I'm
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:21 AM
Dec 2015

supporting her. It's very Presidential to be.. very inclusive..

“The Paris agreement is testament to America’s ability to lead the world in building a clean energy future where no one is left out or left behind. And it was made possible in part by every person, business owner, and community in the United States and around the world that stepped up to prove we don’t have to choose between growing our economy and protecting our kids’ health and future—we can do both.

and on one of my most important issues..



Thank you, G~

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
7. It's not enough.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:38 AM
Dec 2015

That is simply a fact.

Sure, a poke in the eye is a lot better than a knife to the gut, but when we talk about climate change those aren't our choices. We've gone far beyond 'the poke in an eye' even making the top three options. We now need to decide if we're going to slow drastic change enough for technology to adapt or if we throw our hands up and say 'fuck it, we had a damn good time.'

Sure, it's a great deal. The air will be a little cleaner, the water a little safer, but we're not addressing the real problems.

There's too many of us and we like cheap things that make life easy or fun. We also LOVE cheap food, the wrong food.

Cha

(297,137 posts)
10. It's an excellent start 7 years in the making with all the 200 countries that have signed on..
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:53 AM
Dec 2015

Hillary made a very Presidential to be Statement that is inclusive and grateful for all the work that went into the #Paris Climate Change Agreement.. knowing full well that she will be building on it in her administration.

“The Paris agreement is testament to America’s ability to lead the world in building a clean energy future where no one is left out or left behind. And it was made possible in part by every person, business owner, and community in the United States and around the world that stepped up to prove we don’t have to choose between growing our economy and protecting our kids’ health and future—we can do both."

She is very Gracious for all the work that went into making this Global structure to build on and gave credit where it is due.. her experience as President Obama's SOS will be invaluable help in continuing this agreement and making it stronger throughout her time in Office.

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
32. Here's a decent article that addresses why It didn't go farther
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:03 AM
Dec 2015
That hybrid legal structure was explicitly designed in response to the political reality in the United States. A deal that would have assigned legal requirements for countries to cut emissions at specific levels would need to go before the United States Senate for ratification. That language would have been dead on arrival in the Republican-controlled Senate, where many members question the established science of human-caused climate change, and still more wish to thwart Mr. Obama’s climate change agenda.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/world/europe/climate-change-accord-paris.html


I also, in courtesy, suggest reading the agreement itself

http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2015/cop21/eng/l09r01.pdf

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
9. I guess a few can magically make things happen with the 199 countries.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:49 AM
Dec 2015

Its a wonderful and hopeful beginning which will with the help of the world countries implement what is needed to help curve global warming. The problem didn't just appear, it took many years.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
13. I was so happy to see this agreement become reality and
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 05:55 AM
Dec 2015

I hope that the nations of the world continue with sincerity toward achieving it. It takes a small and petty person to trash the agreement rather than pushing for its actual implementation and furthering the goals it embodies. Kudos to President Obama for laying important groundwork for the planet. It has been a herculean effort.

Cha

(297,137 posts)
14. Hillary's statement was very supportive and inclusive, Skidmore.. I like the way you describe
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:17 AM
Dec 2015

the Paris Climate Change Agreement.. an "herculean effort". Anyone who has been out in the world and had to negotiate with Leaders would know that and not attempt to marginalize it in order to sound omnipotent himself.

“The Paris agreement is testament to America’s ability to lead the world in building a clean energy future where no one is left out or left behind. And it was made possible in part by every person, business owner, and community in the United States and around the world that stepped up to prove we don’t have to choose between growing our economy and protecting our kids’ health and future—we can do both."

Thank you.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
15. OMG, that entire string of comments is hilarious--each one funnier than the next!!!
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 07:23 AM
Dec 2015

I'm convinced the guy is not really interested in winning--who says stuff like that? It's tone deaf, it's undiplomatic....it's .... curmudgeonly!!!!!

When I hit this picture I just lost it...

:large


Cha

(297,137 posts)
16. Grumpy cat.. LOL! poor little thing. Looks like somebody took his toy.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 07:48 AM
Dec 2015

They are funny.. you don't mess around dissing the President and everyone else on this Planet, who worked so many years on this, without getting called out good and proper.

He doesn't want to give credit to anyone else but himself.. when he's had 30 or whatever years and what has he done?

I think we know what all the President has accomplished. What's his problem ? Thinks if he acknowledges the achievements.. it will help Hillary?

Yeah it will but that would be the honorable thing to do.. instead he's running against Hillary and President Obama.. tearing them both down. good luck with that.

Hillary's statement was magnificent, her heart and soul was in it.. so what a future President would say, who cares deeply about our country and the Planet.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,232 posts)
21. Bobfr ‎@Our4thEstate hit it out of the park.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 08:51 AM
Dec 2015
For a fella with an abysmal legislative record @BernieSanders, You should learn to be humble & grateful for @POTUS.
h/t @TheObamaDiary
3:13 PM - 12 Dec 2015
15 15 Retweets 8 8 likes


BS appears to be doing everything in his power to further alienate the Obama coalition. Maybe he thinks he can win over Trump supporters, cuz he sure as hell ain't winning me.

Other than speechifying and taking home a regular government paycheck, WTF does BS have to show for decades of loafing around Washington?

Cha

(297,137 posts)
23. I know Bob did! That's one reason I wanted to get this
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:05 AM
Dec 2015

out there, Tarheel. To give a sample of what these Tweeters in the Obama Coalition think of this.

they are a force to be reckoned with.. they do not mess around when it comes to anyone dissing the President.

Sanders could have gone about this whole campaign so differently and they would have been for him.. instead.. all the moves he's made against the President have only strengthened their resistance to him.

And now this. Well, good for us.. they were certainly impressed with Hillary's gracious, inclusive statement on the #PCCA.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
37. + 10000 This ^
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:49 AM
Dec 2015

.."collecting a gov't check & loafing around Washington"

That right there describes his 25 yr career.
Well that and that MIC Contract that netted Wall St investors a handsome return on the overbloated F-35.

Trickle down economics of bernie. Ya know the more he speaks the more he reveals just who's side he aligns with.
He really never ever has been a DEM. It shows louder every day as he grumbles his way through his pathetic campaign.
28% bernie has the audacity to condemn the success of President Obama's Paris agreement.


For a fella with an abysmal legislative record @BernieSanders, You should learn to be humble & grateful for @POTUS. 
h/t @TheObamaDiary 
3:13 PM - 12 Dec 2015 
15 15 Retweets 8 8 likes 

Cha

(297,137 posts)
28. You're Welcome, Gothmog.. the President says it himself..
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:27 AM
Dec 2015
“We met the moment,” Obama said in his address. The Paris agreement on its own would not end climate change, he said, but “this agreement will help delay or avoid some of the worst consequences of climate change, and will pave the way for even more progress, in successive stages, over the coming years”.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
30. Bernie Sanders is "an irritating, petulant curmudgeon"
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:47 AM
Dec 2015

That pretty much sums up how most people are feeling these days. He is losing his shine as the race tightens up (if "tightening up" means he's still 20% behind the front runner). Instead of looking stronger when he confronts an opponent, he just seems like an ineffective complainer. Perhaps he is!

Cha

(297,137 posts)
35. So many people worked so long and diligently on this and Hillary recognizes that..
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:43 AM
Dec 2015

Sanders' tweet was disrespectful and curmudgeony, showing he hasn't a clue about the historical significance of what just happened.

“We met the moment,” Obama said in his address. The Paris agreement on its own would not end climate change, he said, but “this agreement will help delay or avoid some of the worst consequences of climate change, and will pave the way for even more progress, in successive stages, over the coming years”.

It's like Obamacare for the Planet.. not perfect to start but a good solid foundation from which to build.

The Paris Climate Deal Is President Obama’s Biggest Accomplishment

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110231992

Thank you, Walk away~

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
33. .."petulant curmudgeon". Nailed That One!
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:32 AM
Dec 2015

Perpetual madface has zero negotiating skills & zero diplomatic skills necessary to engage world leaders.

What a completely disgusting statement to make. But that's his entire campaign strategy isn't it? Dead end oneliners with absolutely NO follow through.
Ugh!


yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
34. If you watched the (R) debates last night...
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:35 AM
Dec 2015

you know whose name never came up not even once?

Not once!

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
38. He's irrelevant. There's a reason no one cares to know who he is.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:55 AM
Dec 2015

He should stick to small town mayor & his cozy 25 yr senate seat.


yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
40. Around here you'd think he was next POTUS.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:16 AM
Dec 2015

If the Republicans don't even give him a mention, just how over is the Democratic primary?

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
41. Truth. +1000^
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:30 AM
Dec 2015

He's a disgrace to the DEM name.
Just go home already. He's like that one person you invite to dinner, set a lovely table, work all day to prepare the meal, overspend on just the best cut of meat & freshest food. And that one person at the table criticizes every single thing from napkins to dessert ruing the evening for you & everyone else.
This isn't good enough. More salt, less pepper, yellow potatoes over red, bla bla bla.
We all know someone at dinner or at work that can never just say "Thank You for you sincere effort, your concern, your success."

Grumble on bernie. Just go home already.
Yuk.

Cha

(297,137 posts)
42. You're Welcome, mister.. thank you! I just love what Hillary had to say about it..
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:42 AM
Dec 2015

And, President Obama, too.. they know how many people have come together to make this happen.. as a strong structural foundation for the health of our Planet.

And, the US republicans can't do anything about it.

I know we're going to continue to be in good hands.

kjones

(1,053 posts)
47. Probably because
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:11 PM
Dec 2015

most HC supporters are too busy doing things to waste much time tending the "digital BS rec garden"
that DU has become.

This place needs a good pruning.

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