Well, GDP finally pushed me here

[Godhumor]

For those of you who see me over there, Hi! For those of you who don't know me, I'm a pretty active HRC supporter who regularly gets in tussles in GDP, primarily around the baffling misunderstandings of polls, the differences among them and why online widget polls mean exactly jack shit. I'm a statistical analyst by trade and try to talk about numbers as a neutral party, but that is getting increasingly harder to do.

GDP had just gone way too conspiracy theory crazy for my taste in the wake of the data beach, and I am now preparing for the inevitable day when every possible excuse imaginable (and some that aren't imaginable) are given for why Clinton, and not Sanders, wins the nomination handily. Of course, not one of the excuses will be that more people voted for her than Sanders.

As I navigate the toxic river that is GDP, I find that I finally have to turn to the Clinton group as a bastian of calm and tranquility.

So hello to all. Let's see this through!

[BooScout]

1. Be sure to wipe the mud off your shoes....

...it's getting deeper in GDP by the hour.

[Cha]

6. ..

[justhanginon]

2. Dat ain't mud! I think we all really know what it is.

[BooScout]

3. I was being polite...

Us Hillary supporters are always polite.

[Cha]

7. We have to be.

[BooScout]

9. See my polite op I just put up in GDP

[Loki]

4. Me too.

I've been here since the 2001 *selection and I have great admiration for Mr. Sanders, always have, but his supporters are acting like storm troopers and bullies and have me seriously considering leaving DU. We've been through a lot here, but I will not be intimidated by childish behavior and this "if my candidate doesn't win, I won't vote" crap. After the dust settles, and the primaries are over and we have an official candidate, I intend to vote for that candidate, no matter what. I didn't vote for Hillary when she ran against Barack Obama, because I felt he was the better candidate. The Hillary supporters here didn't act like fools and berate those of us who choose differently. This time, I will vote for her. We need a women President, and she is my candidate, and all the diva's in the Bernie group will not change my mind by their asshat behavior, in fact it drives me further and further away. So Godhumor, we are in this thing together

[calimary]

27. I feel your pain, Loki.

I'm a Hillary girl all the way. She IS the better candidate - of ANY party.

[Cha]

5. Hey Godhumor.. I thought I clicked on Hill's Group and I saw your name and then

I had to double check thinking I went into GDP.. I am a little sleepy but that was my reaction. That's where I always see you.

Welcome to Hillary's Group.. nice to see you for whatever reason.

It is getting beyond deep over there with their CT over everything.. I can imagine it drives someone who does statistical analysis especially

Seein' it through! Tough and as Strong as Hillary.

[wildeyed]

8. Come on in, the phone booth is fine ;)

I spend a great deal of my time over there trying to explain polls and clickbait too. And logical fallacies. The difference between rhetoric and actual facts. What the word "fact" means. Sigh.... Oh well.



Hey, off topic, but can someone clue me in on the meaning of "camp weathervane"? I get these drive-by responses that seem to consist primarily of "F you camp weathervane bitchmonster!!!!!! You suck oligarch dick and so does your mom!!!!" OK so, not those exact words. But the f-bomb combined with weathervane stuff is mentioned frequently and I don't understand the weathervane reference.

[Godhumor]

14. Camp weathervane is a derogatory name for the idea

That Clinton's beliefs and ideals change depending on which way the wind is blowing.

[wildeyed]

16. OK.

Wow, that is really offensive. Well now I know better how to respond.

[George II]

10. Welcome, good to see you. But be forewarned, although this is supposed to be a "safe haven".....

....it's not quite as safe as these forums originally were intended. Alerts and hides abound, so beware.

[workinclasszero]

11. Welcome

[charlyvi]

12. For many of them

their hatred for Hillary surpasses their passion for Bernie. Its almost Freudian.

[OKNancy]

13. Those who are big on conspiracies have been here forever

It's the same ones who believe them now.

[Tarheel_Dem]

15. I know some people love the rough & tumble of places like GDP, I'm not one of them. I trashed it &

the BS Group as soon as they were created. Makes life so much nicer.

[wysi]

19. I managed to trash the BS group...

... but stuff from GD Primaries keeps showing up on the latest and greatest, even though I've trashed it. I'd like to be BS-Free until Super Tuesday at least, when reality is going to hit BS supporters upside the head with great force.

[Tarheel_Dem]

20. I navigate from "The Latest", and have never had a problem with trashed groups showing up. However,

since I never view the Greatest, I'm not sure how that works. I have several groups in my trash bin, and several folks on Ignore. I never see their stuff, and that's the way I like it.

[wysi]

22. I'll try a few more things...

... to get it right. At the moment I am regretting renewing my star membership, given how loosely the TOS are being enforced these days.

[Tarheel_Dem]

25. I just had an experience I wasn't aware of. I searched for the new Quinnipiac poll because I didn't

see it posted. I checked here first, and then I tried LBN. I did a search, and the thread came up. Before I knew it, I had posted a reply, and never noticed that it was GDP. Since GDP is in my trash bin, I didn't think I'd be able to see posts in that forum. I learn something new everyday.

[riversedge]

33. That is interesting to know. Even though you have

consciously set up a 'firewall'--you inadvertently got in via a backdoor you did not know about.

[Tarheel_Dem]

35. Exactly. I trashed that forum for a reason & thought it was forever down the memory hole. Oh well.

[dlwickham]

24. is it wrong for me to really like the image

of the bern bots getting slapped up side of the head

[wysi]

39. Of course not...

Relish the thought, and enjoy the reality when it comes.

[dlwickham]

40. thank you

[Starry Messenger]

17. Welcome, I have appreciated your posts on polls.

It's nice in here, we have cookies. And science. And reality.

[NastyRiffraff]

18. Welcome, Godhumor

You're right; GDP is a cesspool. I never post there anymore. The hatred for Hillary is appalling. I understand supporting a candidate I do not support, but some Sanders supporters go way beyond that. I have enjoyed your reasoned and informative posts there. You're a lot braver than I am!

[okasha]

21. Just be sure to use the bootscraper there by the door.

[dlwickham]

23. welcome and salutations

[calimary]

26. Welcome!

I hardly post here anymore. I, too, am an active HRC supporter and I've admired her since I first learned about her in 1992. I think she'll make a GREAT president, and frankly, I've been waiting to vote for someone like her - as first woman President - ever since I became old enough to vote.

It's so sad what DU has become - I've been here since 2001 and I've NEVER seen it this nasty.

[NanceGreggs]

28. I invariably seek out your OPs ...

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... and responses in threads. Your posts have been informative and enlightening.

The problem is that actual facts have become anathema to many on this website - those who would rather believe in unfounded CTs than indisputable evidence.

There actually WAS a time when facts outweighed all other considerations on DU. Sadly, those days are gone.

Welcome to our group.

[Cha]

32. "There actually WAS a time when facts outweighed all other considerations on DU" Yes, say goodbye

to all that.
RIP

[Godhumor]

34. Thanks and likewise

Always know I'm going to read something worthwhile when I see your username pop up.

[fleabiscuit]

29. Really good to see your post.

Boy I was letting out a stream of blue words for being idiot enough to click on a "greatest" post on my way here. What a steaming freaking pile. They have gone nuts.

[still_one]

30. can't blame you. Some of the nastiness is really over the top, and actually they are doing an

extreme disservice to their candidate.

Some of the most vile names have been hurled at Hillary, and not surprisingly similar things hurled at President Obama.

For some folks they really have no shame. I suspect some intentionally post those comments, not to engage in any meaningful dialog or discussion, but to incite anger from the other side. It is a very self-destructive behavior

[the_phantom_dennis]

31. I hear ya, my friend

Believe me!

[Ellen Forradalom]

36. I've been a member since this place opened shop

GDP has always been a zoo. I don't read it.

[ronnykmarshall]

37. GD-B is toxic and horrible

I love it here.

[Gothmog]

38. Welcome to this group