Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumQuinnipac Clinton 61%, BS 30%, MOM 2%
(If Democrat or Democratic Leaner) If the Democratic primary for President were being held today, and the candidates were Hillary Clinton, Martin O'Malley, and Bernie Sanders, for whom would you vote?
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2311
MADem
(135,425 posts)Big kick and rec!
riversedge
(80,026 posts)Dec 22, 2015 -Nat. Quinnipiac Univ Poll: Clinton 61, Sanders 30 http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2311#.VnvKbkoRXXg.twitter #p2 #Hillary2016 #wipolitics #nhpolitics
Cha
(317,695 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,664 posts)That is something that impresses me most about her. She listens and learns.
I also believe that she will work every bit as hard for the American people as she is working to win the 2016 election.
Cha
(317,695 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,664 posts)because I had really wanted either Al Gore or Howard Dean to be a candidate again. I briefly thought of supporting John Edwards, but my heart was never in that, in part because I found him a real lightweight on foreign affairs. I liked his wife much better than I ever liked him. He didn't deserve her and ultimately proved himself unworthy of my - or anyone else's - vote. Thank god, he didn't get too far.
When it became clear that the primaries would really shake down to Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, I was still quite torn about Hillary's IWR vote. But I also really believed that Obama, a mere first-term Senator at the time, although a charismatic candidate on the order of JFK, needed a bit more seasoning at the national level. Still, I believed that there was no question that either would be MUCH better than anything on the R side.
In the end, I voted for Hillary in the MD primaries. But when she bowed out of the race, Barack Obama received my strong and single-minded support and I am SOOO glad that he won! In 2012, there was never even a question of divided loyalties. I am very proud of my Prez.
I found Hillary's work as SoS to be outstanding. Many thanks to Prez O for giving her the opportunity to shine in that position and to rebuild credibility with me. I find it exceedingly frustrating that so many on DU remember only her IWR vote and continue harping on anything else that confirms their anti-Hillary bias, rather than looking objectively at her many achievements. If she were male ....
Cha
(317,695 posts)I was against her IWR vote and she was my Senator when I lived in New York.
But, when she was at the Convention I started liking her again.. and then when President Obama chose her to be his SOS.. I rooted for both of them and never stopped.
You can see in my sig ling that they were both out there campaigning in 2008.. I want that to happen again next year.
I wanted Gore to run again in 2004 and bummed he said "no".. then got on Dean's bandwagon.. again my candidate didn't win. But, no matter .. I picked myself up and started working for Kerry. When he lost I felt like I had been sucker punched. Ouch it hurt.
Obama kind of came out of left field and started growing on me.. then I donated to his campaign around Christmas 2007 and I remember going into work one day saying.. "Obama won Iowa!"
I wanted that family in the White House and now I want Hillary back as President.. she has the chops, Experience and knowledge to be our Madam President.
Ellen Forradalom
(16,186 posts)Naderites constantly bashed Al Gore for voting to confirm Scalia to the Supreme Court. That vote went 98 for, 2 against. Gore did not do it alone. Likewise with the Iraq war. She did do that alone. How about bringing anyone in the Bush administration to account for that debacle? That is where the true responsibility lies.
BlueMTexpat
(15,664 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,454 posts)Same here.
Ellen Forradalom
(16,186 posts)"THAT WOMAN" sends them into a frenzy. Their internalized misogyny shines and they don't even know it.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)We are not backing down, ever onward.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Tommy2Tone
(1,307 posts)A lot of folks don't like Hillary and I think that will rise when she wins the nomination.
The sections that jump out to me are the great numbers on what they expect in a president.
1)Clinton has the right kind of experience to be president, American voters say 63 - 35 percent
2)58 - 40 percent that she has strong leadership qualities
3)Voters say 59 - 32 percent, including 86 - 10 percent among Democrats, that she has a good chance of defeating the Republican nominee next November.
These three category are the most encouraging. America does not need to like their president but they need a president that knows how to lead and has the right kind of experience.
Most of all we like winners and if 59% of the people think she will win, they will vote that way or frankly if her enemies feel she will win they will stay home and not vote.
I pay little attention to the dislike part of the poll. The republican she eventually ends up running against will have way worse.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)They never valued other people's opinion anyway.
Cha
(317,695 posts)they don't go their way.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)polls are only valid when Bernie gains in them. Otherwise, they're irrelevant or lying. The so-called "conspiracy" against Bernie is getting tiresome. (Corrupt polls, media not paying enough attention to him, etc. etc. ad nauseum)
Treant
(1,968 posts)When BS starts losing primaries, they'll ignore the very clear polling and say he was cheated by Clinton's team and DWS.
If you think the howling and the thrashing are bad now, just wait until February and March.
okasha
(11,573 posts)it was believed that one of the joys of Heaven was watching the torment of the damned souls in hell. Now, I've always thought that was sadistic and perverted, but if you shift the context to the political arena, I think I can kind of get behind it.
