Here is a perfect way to screw your candidate in a primary EDITED

[William769]

Last edited Tue Jan 5, 2016, 11:42 AM - Edit history (1)

This type of behavior is beyond the pale. These people are fucking nuts.

https://www.change.org/p/bernie-sanders-ensure-election-integrity-independent-poll-monitors-needed-for-democratic-primary-2016?recruiter=563967&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=share_for_starters_page&utm_term=des-lg-no_src-no_msg&fb_ref=Default

ETA: I know there has been some "grumbling" going on so this is something to keep in mind

[leftofcool]

1. More conspiracy theory craporama.

These people are scary.

[OKNancy]

2. I see this persons videos posted often here

I have no idea who this is, but from what I've seen, they are nutso.

As far as this action... this will piss off a lot of true Democrats... more than are already pissed off by the actions of Sanders and his supporters.

[William769]

3. Exactly!

Makes one wonder if they are not actually trying to throw the election of the presidency for a Democrat.

[OKNancy]

6. I looked up a little about this person who makes these videos - Obama hater

From her facebook:
Jan 2014
They should revoke Obama's Peace Prize and put him jail for crimes against the Constitution for claiming the executive power and right to kill and detain American citizens without trial. I hope he wins*. More courage then all these phony dems combined.

* Snowden

-------------------

https://www.facebook.com/debbie.lusignan

Lots more crazy shit there.

[William769]

8. Great catch.

AT least we know who the enemy is.

[freshwest]

11. Pays her bills to live the good life in the islands... n/t

[Starry Messenger]

13. I think she used to be here actually. Debbierlus or something?

That name just dinged a brain cell for me. No wonder her videos are so popular here.

[CreekDog]

65. Looks like she tried to get people to not vote for Martha Coakley in the special election...

that elected Scott Brown and lost the Democrats their 60 vote majority in the Senate back in 2010.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php/www/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=158&topic_id=15306&mesg_id=15306

[Starry Messenger]

66. Well that really worked out great.

[Tarheel_Dem]

15. Aw Jeez. One of them?

[ismnotwasm]

59. Holy crap that's messed up

[sheshe2]

4. OMG! nt

[Bleacher Creature]

5. This could of been written by a lot of the posters on DU.

Sad.

[OilemFirchen]

7. Here's DEBBIE!

Perhaps the most annoying, self-promoting pseudo-celebrity to have emerged from this Primary.

And she's had lots of competition.

[Sheepshank]

9. Further proving the fact that Bernie and his supporters wish to damage the Democratic brand

They have completely forgotten who the Dems are really fighting.

They have gone off the deep end.....over 2000 signatories as of my post. Nice grassroots revolution...not.

[freshwest]

10. Nice bonus. n/t

[Tommy2Tone]

12. My question is do Bernie fans work?

They seem to have a lot of spare time to dream crazy shit up.

[LiberalFighter]

80. Are they Bernie supporters or Republican trolls?

[Tommy2Tone]

81. Good question.

They certainly are not Democrats.

[NanceGreggs]

14. With all the "where would Bernie be if ..."

... posts, one wonders where Bernie would be if his own "supporters" weren't undermining his campaign at every opportunity.

[freshwest]

19. Both Bernie and the Democratic Party would be better off. There could have been substantive issues

Discussed online and elsewhere. Instead we are treated to this same tune with Hillary, Obama, etc. are TheEvilOnes©. This game only serves the Koch brothers and their ilk. And "supporters" is right.

More likely they are Segretti types screwing with a possible Democratic nominee, and getting some to fall for it.

[kjones]

46. I know so many places Bernie "would be if..." but I can't seem to pin down where he actually is.

I feel sorry for the guy that his campaign has attracted what it has.
At least when the Far Right and Republicans attracted the Tea Party element
and the like, they were asking for it (and the results are, and will continue
to be, deserved in that party).

I feel like so many in their brand of Left is so busy attacking every criticism
from the outside or treason (read "compromise&quot from the inside of their
group that they just don't have the time to build bridges, make friends,
and run a campaign.

...and of course, even if they can get Bernie in office (or "we", since I
would vote for him in the general), they'll be very disappointed when
they find out that running a nation means a mandate to compromise for
300 some million people...not a mandate to dictate from the platform
of your base.

[sheshe2]

16. K&R

[Tarheel_Dem]

17. Good Loooord!

[sheshe2]

18. Lol~

Tarheel_Dem

[Tarheel_Dem]

35. Welcome back Dear She!

[sheshe2]

37. Hey sweets~

Thanks, I missed you.

[freshwest]

27. That little winky-wink. Run for your lives! n/t

[mcar]

20. K&R

[SunSeeker]

21. Yep. CTs aren't just for right wing nut bags any more.

[rbrnmw]

22. Oh My!!!! The Snowden Lady

[freshwest]

29. Very, very good paranoia from a guy paid to be filmed... I always think it's this one, though...

Definitely part of the 99%! A working man who is oppressed! Wait, they look pretty slick. And why are they letting the cameraman into the house?

[rbrnmw]

33. I forgot all about that one

it's been years since I heard it.

[ismnotwasm]

23. I depise conspiracy theory politics

It causes nothing but harm

[Amimnoch]

24. She should see a therapist.

Mental health is not good in this one.

[freshwest]

30. Naw, it's a business strategy. She's not worried about anything but the bottom line. n/t

[George II]

25. It is really, REALLY scary that there are people in this country like this.....

...more of them than we know of.

And we thought they were all rightwingers!

[Gothmog]

26. The conspiracy nutcases are scary

[quickesst]

28. It's like someone posted a video on the democratic underground...

....and the video turned out to be the post. The opposition, and I mean any opposition couldn't have done a better job torpedoing Bernie's campaign. I agree 100% with your assessment.

[Sancho]

31. K&R

[Cha]

32. So they have no hope for BS's grassroots campaign in the Dem primary that he entered?

Same with Josh Uretsky and the others who were fired for downloading files from Hillary's campaign.. no faith in their "winning" strategy that we kept hearing about before all hell broke loose?

Thank you William.

[okasha]

34. Why is this woman talking to a toilet-tank float?

[jmowreader]

72. It's a microphone that looks like one

[Fla Dem]

82. I thought it was a hair dryer. She's whacked.

[onehandle]

36. Sign me up!...

...for a bus ticket to get far, far away from this total nut bag.

[William769]

39. Are you ready for this?

On Sun Jan 3, 2016, 07:50 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Here is a perfect way to screw your candidate in a primary
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110732231

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This post is offensive and over the top and would probably warrant a hide if posted in GDP. But the OP chose to post in the protected Hillary Group, where the offensive "fucking nuts" editorial cannot be challenged. It's an abuse of the protected group status to post disruptive shit.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Jan 3, 2016, 07:55 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't agree with the post but its not hide-worthy.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: You have to be kidding! Why alert on this? The only think I can imagine is "alert stalking". The opinion about the video is appropriate for the group, and actually this would be ok in GDP. There's no violation of the TOS - it's an OP about a public petition! In my view, the alerter knows they are invading a protected group and simply trying to get a cheap hide. People who alert without a violation should be restricted from using the jury system. LEAVE IT!
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
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Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
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[onehandle]

40. How dare you hide in a protected group, far from the fickle hand of fate.

You have ruined the honor system that has made DU what it is today.

[Cha]

43. Juror #4 is exactly right.. "The only thing I can imagine is "alert stalking"." For a "cheap

hide.."

Alert stalker

[William769]

44. Ain't that the truth!

[Cha]

45. Hillary VS BS in the Dem primary..

rivers~http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=969306

Hillary helping others, too.. not just the lead ticket.

[Tarheel_Dem]

51. I love this graphic!

Taking, but not giving. Is that how socialism works? If so, I'll take a pass.

[Cha]

52. Good point, Tarheel.. seems to be special brand

that doesn't interest me, either.

[Bobbie Jo]

50. LOL!

I sense a pattern...

Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
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Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

[sheshe2]

38. Kicking

[BainsBane]

41. Anything but registering voters and GOTV

Guy's been consistently 25-30 points down in the polls. We hear nothing about a ground game, yet they claim the primary is going to be stolen? And the show is called "Sane Progressive."

[George II]

47. But they get thousands of adolescents at rallies and tens of thousands of mouse clicks in "polls"!

[Gothmog]

42. K&R

[Historic NY]

48. She has some serious problems.......

[workinclasszero]

49. Funny how the democratic party is the enemy to these nutcases

And they give a pass to teahaddist republicans and racist libertarians like Rand Paul.

[Cha]

54. Yeah, there's a name for them.. can't

quite come up with it.

Oh I remember and it's not very nice and would get an alert and a hide.. and it's not worth it.

[jmowreader]

73. It wouldn't be this, would it?

[Cha]

53. KICKING THIS ONE that survived the alert stalker..

[Cha]

55. Thank you for pinning this, William. When we need a dose of

calm we know right where to look.

[William769]

56. My dose of calm will be when Hillary becomes our next President of the United States.

[Cha]

57. I know what you mean..

we have such a wild roller coaster ahead.

[juajen]

75. Amen!

Will, what does pinning something mean? Please indulge me.

[Sancho]

58. Thanks for the post...

I had not seen the video before. I agree, many Bernie supporters are shooting themselves in the foot right now.

I'm actually pretty calm at this point, but I'm staying away from GDP. Even in the Hillary Group the piranha attack without warning. It can make anyone nervous.

[Cha]

60. What?!

[Sancho]

61. Haha...loved the addition about keeping calm!

[Cha]

62. Yes, it's an excellent reminder!

[Ellen Forradalom]

63. She turned up in a Facebook group I belonged to

And dropped this gem:


She got excoriated.

[CreekDog]

64. That necklace looks ridiculous

[still_one]

67. unbelievable

[stonecutter357]

68. K&R!

[Politicub]

69. Bernie's golden light shines so bright...

it has blinded mine eyes. What other explanation is there for not wanting to sip the healing waters from Bernie's cup?

[Cha]

70. Can't WAIT!! this is me being CALM!

[Des Moines De Mon]

71. Wow

[NBachers]

76. Where can I get a glowing, floating orb like that to talk into?

[McCamy Taylor]

77. This is the RNC's game plan in a nutshell. Claim that Clinton "cheated".

Therefore, her victory must be overwhelming.

[Setsuna1972]

78. these people are nutcase !!!

On FaceBook I posted on an MSNBC article about what Sanders' wife said earlier today, and I had quite a few BernieBros use the same idiotic argument about black voters being uninformed or traitors for choosing to support Hillary ! They just don't get it !!!

[40RatRod]

79. In the back of my mind...

...I am concerned due to outright hatred of many on the Bernie Group for Hillary. Could it happen? Yes, if he agreed. Remember what happened the last couple of times we had someone run as a third party (Ross Perot, Ralph Nader) and even though they did not have a snowballs chance in Hades they had an effect on the outcome of the elections.

[hrc guy]

83. Gary Legum had it before the primaries even started

Wednesday, Dec 2, 2015 12:45 PM EDT

Bernie supporters could blow this election: Why refusing to vote for Hillary Clinton will only make everything worse

The political left has been tearing itself up of late with a rousing game of “Who Wants to Be the Most Liberal Liberal Ever To Liberal,” much in the same way it seems to each and every election cycle. The current battle, between supporters of Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, would be much more entertaining if the arguments for and against both campaigns weren’t variations on the same tired leftier-than-thou rhetoric and blind loyalty that were worn out even before Ralph Nader threw his rumpled corduroy blazer over his shoulder and slunk off into the humid Florida night.

(edit)

I recall a debate that year about whether true liberals should vote for Nader because, in his formulation, there was not a dime’s worth of difference between the two major-party candidates, Al Gore and George W. Bush. I recall email blasts from at least one acquaintance in a toss-up state trying to interest his friends in states that were safely for Gore in a voting trade of sorts, whereby one of us would cast our vote for Nader; in return, our friend would cast his vote for Gore. The thinking was that this would preserve a Democratic victory in both states while also registering liberal protests at the centrist drift of the party.

(edit)

Now, 15 years later, does anyone want to argue that there was not a dime’s worth of difference between the potential Gore administration and the clusterfuckery that we got with Bush? Because if you do, my family owns some swampland – er, I mean highly prized and valuable real estate in Florida — that we would be happy to sell you.

http://www.salon.com/2015/12/02/bernie_supports_could_blow_this_election_why_refusing_to_vote_for_hillary_clinton_will_only_make_things_worse/

Will the Sandersnistas, in effect, vote for Nader this November by staying home?