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yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:27 PM Jan 2016

Obama Insiders Say Clinton, Not Sanders, Is His Natural Heir

Source: Bloomberg by Sahil Kapur

When President Barack Obama was asked by Politico this week whether Bernie Sanders' populist campaign reminded him of his own 2008 run, the president quickly rejected the notion. “No,” Obama responded. “I don't think that's true.”

While Obama didn't elaborate, former top aides weren't reticent to say they view Hillary Clinton—not the insurgent Vermont senator whose rhetoric has drawn comparisons to Obama—as the natural heir to the president.

“Then-Senator Obama ran for President to tackle longstanding challenges that our country had debated for decades but was unable to resolve. A ‘politics as the art of the possible’ candidate,” Ben LaBolt, a national spokesman for Obama's 2012 campaign, said in an e-mail. “Senator Sanders has been in Congress for decades but hasn't tackled any major longstanding challenges—he's been too busy shouting his point of view across the aisle with few results.”

Jon Favreau, who worked on the Obama 2008 campaign before becoming a speechwriter for the president, said Sanders' campaign “resembles Howard Dean's a lot more than it resembles Barack Obama's.” In key respects, he said, “Hillary is much closer to Obama than Bernie is.”

Obama “campaigned as an idealist in terms of the goals he articulated but a pragmatist when it came to the policies needed to reach those goals. And he had very, very detailed policies that were grounded in pragmatism,” said Favreau, who nevertheless praised Sanders as genuine. “Obama has always believed it's more important to take action that actually makes a difference now and improves people's lives instead of settling for the satisfying purity of moral indignation.”

Read the rest at: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-01-26/obama-insiders-clinton-not-sanders-is-his-natural-heir
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Obama Insiders Say Clinton, Not Sanders, Is His Natural Heir (Original Post) yallerdawg Jan 2016 OP
Sanders is not Barack Obama Gothmog Jan 2016 #1
HRC will keep the United States of America positively moving forward. Iliyah Jan 2016 #2
Anyone else - yallerdawg Jan 2016 #4
We aren't a monarchy katsy Jan 2016 #3
Your post makes no sense. Cha Jan 2016 #6
Glad to know that I'm not alone in that assessment. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #10
Well Ye-ah! There's not even a question.. how did that even Cha Jan 2016 #5
Liberty U endorsed T-rump - LOL Iliyah Jan 2016 #7
It figures in its own stupid way. Cha Jan 2016 #12
LOL..and Rickroll Perry endorsed Cruz! misterhighwasted Jan 2016 #18
"And they know we are Christians... yallerdawg Jan 2016 #9
Faux Fake Pretend Christians endorse donald trump. Cha Jan 2016 #13
Nope. workinclasszero Jan 2016 #17
We needed, and got, Obama in 2008... islandmkl Jan 2016 #8
It's exactly what we need.. Hillary will build on the President's excellent legacy and create Cha Jan 2016 #11
"we DON'T NEED a 2016 version of Obama...." I'm certain 98% of Democrats disagree with you. BlueCaliDem Jan 2016 #21
Ouch! from your link... Cha Jan 2016 #14
Facts should inform opinion. yallerdawg Jan 2016 #15
When I'm into a campaign I'm into it! Cha Jan 2016 #16
"Facts should inform opinion, not the other way around" BlueCaliDem Jan 2016 #22
Whoa! How many times have I heard this same concern repeated now? misterhighwasted Jan 2016 #19
Also from the link: yallerdawg Jan 2016 #20
Try as they might to attach some significance to Sanders blank image, misterhighwasted Jan 2016 #23
Not enough! Glad it's getting exposed in the press, mister! Cha Jan 2016 #32
I've been saying this very thing since the start, and it's why I've never "felt the Bern". Tarheel_Dem Jan 2016 #24
It's all "Anyone But," isn't it? yallerdawg Jan 2016 #26
BS is the hero of the leftosphere. He's got the leftwing talking heads on lockdown, and they have... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2016 #29
Yup, one corporate to another. NO thanks, we'll take it from here. onecaliberal Jan 2016 #25
Well, I hope you'll "take it" back to the BS Group. Thanks. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2016 #30
k/r Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #27
Joe, at least Treant Jan 2016 #28
Kick & highly recommended! William769 Jan 2016 #31

Gothmog

(145,046 posts)
1. Sanders is not Barack Obama
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:30 PM
Jan 2016

Sanders is not Barack Obama and is not his heir. Hillary Clinton is the one who will continue Obama's policies and protect his legacy

Cha

(297,026 posts)
5. Well Ye-ah! There's not even a question.. how did that even
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:38 PM
Jan 2016

get suggested?!

By contrast, former Obama aides see a pragmatism to Clinton's approach, borne by her mix of executive and legislative experience, that reflects the president's own vision. While Obama veterans have praise for Sanders, some believe the pragmatic streak makes Clinton a better fit to govern in a political reality that would require grinding out incremental victories though legislation that will be constrained by a likely Republican-run House, and executive actions.

Mahalo yallerdawg!

P.S. I saw @ the link that Liberty U endorses trump.. lol

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
18. LOL..and Rickroll Perry endorsed Cruz!
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:11 PM
Jan 2016

LMAO over these endorsements.
Surprised that Liberty U endorsed Trump, considering that bible quote flub.
And sorta sad they omitted Sanders since he was first one out to speak to LU.
Trump paid them. Only answer that makes sense. AmIright?

islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
8. We needed, and got, Obama in 2008...
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:43 PM
Jan 2016

we DON'T NEED a 2016 version of Obama....

but then again, maybe if I was:

a Wall Street kind of guy...and I could benefit by shipping some employee jobs elsewhere....and I think that the archaic (and historically unsuccessful - always) foreign policy concept of empire/regime change should be pursued...and I think the high cost of health coverage is just the way America has to have it...

and I don't give a shit about 29 million uninsured people...

yeah, why not a heir?...it's not like it will be a Bush or anything....

Cha

(297,026 posts)
11. It's exactly what we need.. Hillary will build on the President's excellent legacy and create
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:49 PM
Jan 2016

her own in 8 years time.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
21. "we DON'T NEED a 2016 version of Obama...." I'm certain 98% of Democrats disagree with you.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:30 PM
Jan 2016

If President Obama could run for a third term, he'd easily win it.

But then again, maybe if they were:

a Libertarian posing as a Liberal; an extreme-Leftist; a Republican disguised as a Liberal; an angry White male; a Communist; a Socialist; a Teabagger; a political neophyte who was too busy to hear President Obama and Democrats say that ObamaCare is a stepping stone to universal health care; or even la-la-land ideologue who still believes getting their way is more important than the fate of the country, they might agree with your assessment.

The rest of the country will happily embrace a Madam President Clinton who will carry forward President Obama's legacy and build on it for the good of the country.

Cha

(297,026 posts)
14. Ouch! from your link...
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:54 PM
Jan 2016
“Then-Senator Obama ran for President to tackle longstanding challenges that our country had debated for decades but was unable to resolve. A ‘politics as the art of the possible’ candidate,” Ben LaBolt, a national spokesman for Obama's 2012 campaign, said in an e-mail. “Senator Sanders has been in Congress for decades but hasn't tackled any major longstanding challenges—he's been too busy shouting his point of view across the aisle with few results.”

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
15. Facts should inform opinion.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 02:03 PM
Jan 2016

Not the other way around...

Thank you, Cha, for staying with Hillary unrelentingly!!!

You keep us coming back!

Cha

(297,026 posts)
16. When I'm into a campaign I'm into it!
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 02:13 PM
Jan 2016

I think like all of us.. we love our Country/Planet and after those 8 years of bush2 we don't ever want to go through that again.

Mahalo!

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
22. "Facts should inform opinion, not the other way around"
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:31 PM
Jan 2016

EXACTLY. I wished more on this site outside of this group can understand that simple but powerful fact.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
19. Whoa! How many times have I heard this same concern repeated now?
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:21 PM
Jan 2016

Senator Sanders has been in Congress for decades but hasn't tackled any major longstanding challenges—he's been too busy shouting his point of view across the aisle with few results.

#Truth

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
20. Also from the link:
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:28 PM
Jan 2016
The campaign arcs also have some differences. By this point, Obama picked up endorsements from powerful party actors—the so-called invisible primary that political scientists say is historically critical in nominating contests—such as Ted Kennedy, then-Virginia Governor Tim Kaine, and Senator Claire McCaskill. Now, Clinton is thoroughly dominating that contest with hundreds of endorsements from lawmakers and governors, while Sanders has a mere two congressional endorsements, both in the House. Labor unions, which split between Obama and Clinton in 2008, are overwhelmingly behind Clinton.

Not the same at all!

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
23. Try as they might to attach some significance to Sanders blank image,
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:33 PM
Jan 2016

Comparing him in any way to Obama is simply pandering to a Black voter block. Its a great big fat epic fail.
People aren't that stupid.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,228 posts)
24. I've been saying this very thing since the start, and it's why I've never "felt the Bern".
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:54 PM
Jan 2016
“Senator Sanders has been in Congress for decades but hasn't tackled any major longstanding challenges—he's been too busy shouting his point of view across the aisle with few results.”


Decades. This bears repeating over & over & over again.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
26. It's all "Anyone But," isn't it?
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:20 PM
Jan 2016

That explains why any Democrat or any Democratic constituency that supports Hillary is "the establishment" and must be silenced and de-legitimized.

There are a whole lotta people who want "Anyone But" and the vast majority of them are not Democrats!

Some reclusive, unknown, "party of one" member of Congress who becomes a DINO, with no record of success to speak of, is just plain "Anyone But"!

Tarheel_Dem

(31,228 posts)
29. BS is the hero of the leftosphere. He's got the leftwing talking heads on lockdown, and they have...
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:56 PM
Jan 2016

no particular loyalty to the Democratic party. Ralph Nader could probably have run again, and they'd be just as happy. Being anti-establishment is so cool, no matter which side of the political coin you flip.

BS' notoriety, such as it is, is a creation of folks like Hartmann, Schultz & Malloy. My theory is that they'd be just as happy with a Republican in the White House, much better for ratings. And the folks BS needs to show up for him in the caucuses and primaries are the same folks who will go missing in the midterms. I mean, WTF is the point of electing a POTUS that you'll abandon the moment it becomes inconvenient.

Like the President Obama said, BS is 'the shiny new object', and that's bad for our democracy.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
28. Joe, at least
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:23 PM
Jan 2016

A sitting President usually doesn't show anything but minor favor during the Primaries.

Once things get locked up, Obama will come out swinging for Mrs. Clinton.

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