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Dovidoff

(40 posts)
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 06:28 PM Jan 2016

AP: Sanders lowers expectations in Iowa

"Sanders said in an interview with The Associated Press Tuesday that the notion that he must win Iowa's caucuses against Democratic rival Hillary Clinton is "mythology" and appeared to lower expectations about the race."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sanders-its-a-mythology-that-i-need-to-win-iowa_us_56a7e4a2e4b04936c0e89143
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AP: Sanders lowers expectations in Iowa (Original Post) Dovidoff Jan 2016 OP
Hmm workinclasszero Jan 2016 #1
K&R! stonecutter357 Jan 2016 #2
BS Translation = 'My internal polling shows that I'm not going to win IA'. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2016 #3
But Iowa IS a must win Treant Jan 2016 #4
Some pundits are already saying... yallerdawg Jan 2016 #5
Sucks, don't it suck some, y'all? Treant Jan 2016 #7
Yes, sometimes reality sets into focus, now somethings are no Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #6
Hillary's "inevitability" was bad. 72DejaVu Jan 2016 #8
Yeah yeah yeah.. everything's mythology. Cha Jan 2016 #9
It really will be up to the O'Malley supporters question everything Jan 2016 #10

Treant

(1,968 posts)
4. But Iowa IS a must win
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 06:39 PM
Jan 2016

Sanders' strengths will be the Northeast and caucus states--and he needs pretty much every delegate to overcome Clinton's native advantages in most primary states and states that aren't very white.

A weak showing in Iowa starts to negate any advantage he might have in caucus states--he might motivate, but he can't get them out to vote. And that does not bode well for a potential win, or even a decent showing.

Lose IA and I'm convinced this is over by Super Tuesday. Win IA by too small an amount and it's over slightly after that. Sanders needs to kick ass in IA...and that isn't going to happen.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
5. Some pundits are already saying...
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 06:55 PM
Jan 2016

because expectations are so high - if Hillary wins in Iowa by 4 or more points - game over for Sanders.

And it's a shame because the expectations were driven by 'outlier' polling numbers.

Watch "With All Due Respect" today. On MSNBC and later on Bloomberg. Or stream at Bloomberg Politics.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
7. Sucks, don't it suck some, y'all?
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 07:08 PM
Jan 2016

Maybe they shouldn't have trumpeted the fact that Sanders is an unstoppable force that everybody will support and set expectations sky high.

There's nowhere to go but down. And down it's going.

I'm not sure what a bad loss in IA would do to the NH results--probably not a great deal--but maybe we'll need to revise those numbers as well.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
8. Hillary's "inevitability" was bad.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 09:11 PM
Jan 2016

Bernie's inevitability was good.

Now it's bad, too.

Hard to keep up with it all.

question everything

(52,382 posts)
10. It really will be up to the O'Malley supporters
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:23 AM
Jan 2016

The way the bizarre Democratic caucus goes, voters stand in different parts of the room, in groups supporting their candidates. Depending on the number of attendees, a threshold is established for "viability." The supporters of the non viable candidates hen start negotiating with the other groups.

Thus, if the O'Malley supporters will choose to join Hillary, she will have greater chances of winning, one caucus at at time.

Of course, this assumes that O'Malley supporters will be enough to tilt the final count.


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