Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumWhy Is President Obama Embracing Hillary Clinton Now?
This is an interesting read by someone who appears to be a SBS supporter, however one feels about the ultimate conclusion. http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/why-is-president-obama-embracing-hillary-clinton
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Was Obama just shooting the breeze with a guest in the Oval Office who happened to be carrying a tape recorder? Hardly. It is much more plausible that the President was sending a supportive message to an embattled candidate whom he sees as the best option to replace him, in order to safeguard the electoral position of the Democratic Party and preserve his legacy as a center-left reformer.
For all the differences they had in 2008, some of which lingered, Obama and Clinton both represent the centrist, pragmatic approach to politics that has dominated the Democratic Party since the nineteen-eighties. A victory for Sanders and his insurgent left-wing populism would represent a sharp break with the moderate tradition. In the opinion of many Democrats in the White House and on Capitol Hill, it would also set up the Party for defeat come November, not just in the Presidential race but in congressional elections. And, from Obamas perspective, it would place a shadow over his biggest achievements, particularly the Affordable Care Act, which Sanders has described as merely a first step in transforming the health-care system.
If the Republicans win the Presidential election and strengthen their grip on Congress, they are likely to repeal large parts of the Affordable Care Act and roll back many of President Obamas executive orders in other areas, such as environmental regulation. If Sanders were to become President, he would presumably seek to build on Obamas policies, but there would still be a significant change in approach. In part to try to prevent either of these things from happening, a number of former Obama Administration officials are working for the Clinton campaign. John Podesta, Clintons campaign chairman, worked at the White House under Obama. So did Jennifer Palmieri, the Clinton campaigns director of communications. Joel Benenson, a senior strategist and pollster for the Clinton campaign, carried out a similar role in Obamas 2008 and 2012 campaigns. The Sanders campaign doesnt have these sorts of personal ties to the White House.
still_one
(92,190 posts)seems a little misleading, since the President obviously embraced Hillary when he appointed her as his SOS in 2009,
Cha
(297,203 posts)still_one
(92,190 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)the writer is actually more complimentary to Hillary than not.
But he's really a SBS supporter. Your double-take is understandable.
still_one
(92,190 posts)liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)After he won the nomination, she quickly got on the campaign trail for Obama, holding rallies of her own in support of his election.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)something lacking in Sanders since, well, he doesn't care for the Democratic Party and has spent years excoriating it. It's no wonder he hasn't done crappola for down-ticket Democrats...yet he believes they should all get behind him? Why again? Because of his rhetoric? He's all hat, zero cattle.
Thanks but no thanks.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)At least until he needed to be to get elected.
He really is deep down a hypocrite!
Cha
(297,203 posts)obvious?
A couple of snips from your link, BlueMTex..
Look, Ive gotten to know Hillary Clinton really well, and she is a good, smart, tough person who cares deeply about this country,
snip//
I think that if Bernie won Iowa or won New Hampshire, then you guys are going to do your jobs and youre going to dig into his proposals and how much they cost and what does it mean, and how does his tax policy work. And hes subjected, then, to a rigor that hasnt happened yet, but that Hillary is very well familiar with.
I think President Obama is being more than "fair" to Bernie.. More fair than BS has been to him.
But, Obama isn't playing.. he's doing this for our country.
Mahalo, Blue!
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)to Hillary, IMO. It's clear from the last part of it that the writer is a SBS supporter. But it is not completely nasty as all too many are. And in spite of himself, the author still makes an excellent case for Prez O's recent comments about and in support of Hillary.
Support is simply not there among the majority for this nebulous "revolution" that SBS espouses.
Interestingly, because the second season of Poldark is coming up on the Beeb, I've been reading the Poldark novels (UK version). The US versions were quite watered down when they were originally published. I'm not sure whether that is still the case.
Apart from the Poldark family saga which is the purpose of the novels, the novels also detail the social situation in Britain (especially in Cornwall). They also describe the era between the First US Revolutionary War and the heightened social uneasiness in Britain not only because of the loss of its US colonies but also because of events France in 1789 and the chaos that followed the toppling of the monarchy there prior to Napoleon's taking firm grasp of things (and then going too far) quite vividly, although fictionalized in aspects, of course. It has been interesting to see that many of Ross Poldar's thoughts about social change parallel my own.
I'm not sure whether those who advocate "revolution" really know what they are advocating for. If they could provide some realistic details and steps, that would be great. But the sweeping generalizations that I have seen to justify "revolution" are simply not realistic. Chaos simply for the sake of chaos will not advance anything in today's America. But it will make things worse.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Nominated President in the 2008 DNC Convention, she campaigned for him in 2008 and 2012, he ask her to serve as his SOS, yes President Obama knows Hillary, where she stands this is not a new embrace.
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)If anyone knows how competent and capable Hillary is, it is Prez O!
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)That's why.
Without Hillary in the race, the US Government will be owned by the Kochs.
Its that critical.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)Bernie doesn't care. He dislikes both parties and has been outspoken about it. Thankfully, most Democrats are aware of this.
oasis
(49,383 posts)enthusiastic about politics. It'll be all over after the Democratic convention and Bernie joins hands with Hillary pledging his support.
comradebillyboy
(10,147 posts)the nominee. I don't think he will raise money for the party or campaign for down ticket races either even if he wins the nomination. He's never done these things in the past.
oasis
(49,383 posts)a bit of that energy his campaign has been bragging about and hit the bricks for Hillary.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Bernie's in it for Bernie.
No one else, as is evident by his lack of desire to build the Dem Party, work to bring other Dems up, nor raise funds for them to compete with their Republican contenders.
It's the arrogance of socialism.
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)most sincere belief.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)say that if he has, it's out of concern for the party and the country.