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Related: About this forumBoth Sanders and Clinton produced terrific ads, but only one of them makes me feel included.
Jonathan Capehart✔ ?@CapehartJ
Both Sanders and Clinton produced terrific ads, but only one of them makes me feel included. http://wapo.st/1OLFWbw
9:16 AM - 22 Jan 2016
Washington Post
Theyve all come to look for America. They just have to watch Clintons ad to find it.
By Jonathan Capehart @CapehartJ
Both candidates' ads successfully tug at the heart. But Clinton got it right.
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By Jonathan Capehart January 22
In two separate ads released within days of each other, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and former secretary of state Hillary Clinton have now presented their visions of America. But only one makes me feel included.
Being a man of a certain age, I love Simon and Garfunkels America. Those voices and those lyrics take me back to a simpler time. When my only care was where my next toy would come from. Yet those warm, childhood feelings gave way to grown-up political observation.
Sanders is running a revolutionary, future-oriented campaign fueled in large part by the enthusiasm of young people. People who are more globally aware than any American generation in history. Yet, his beautifully crafted ad features a song by a duo who provided part of the soundtrack for the political and social tumult of the 1960s and 1970s. Perhaps that minute-in-retro will resonate with folks who have yet to #feelthebern. But for an ad that beckons us to look for America, the pictures accompanying the lyrics looked nothing like the America or the Democratic Party of today or the future.
Sure, all the hay bales, farm animals and white people are visual cues to the good folks of Iowa (Feb. 1) and New Hampshire (Feb. 9), who will finally make their voices heard in the caucuses and primary next month. But what of the black and brown people of Nevada (Feb. 20), South Carolina (Feb. 27) and the Super Tuesday states (March 1)? They are a part of this America were looking for, no? The Sanders ad clashes with the revolutionary, all-inclusive aura the senator has cultivated.
Clintons ad is the exact opposite of the Sanders offering. His ad is almost as white as the Oscars. Her commercial could be described as a gorgeous mosaic, as former New York mayor David Dinkins liked to call the Big Apple. Not only is it chock full of people of color, the ad has all kinds of people. A same-sex male couple kisses. A disabled woman wheels up to the camera. A Muslim woman in a hijab. Sanders says nothing. Clinton makes her case for being president.
The other vid and More @ https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/01/22/theyve-all-come-to-look-for-america-they-just-have-to-watch-clintons-ad-to-find-it/
http://theobamadiary.com/2016/01/25/140-characters-of-food-for-thought/
[font color=blue]Mahalo~Hillary's Group~[/font]
Cha
(297,722 posts)Gothmog
(145,619 posts)Cha
(297,722 posts)Thank you, Gothmog~
Cha
(297,722 posts)okasha
(11,573 posts)for a 1950's that never was.
It's oddly retrospective. Bernie seems stuck somewhere between
his self identification as a radical "who marched with MLK" and a future that doesn't get beyond being acclaimed as a hero by all who "come to look for America."
Got news for you Bernie. Some of us had found Turtle Island 12,000 years before the folks in that ad came looking for it. Some of us came packed into slave ships and were emphatically not looking for America. Some of us were annexed involuntarily when white and English-speaking America came looking for us.
Jayzus, Bernie. "Morning in America," you and Reagan.. You sold out the Revolution decades ago.
And you don't even know it.
Cha
(297,722 posts)Amazingly tone deaf.
SunSeeker
(51,726 posts)Cha
(297,722 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)mahina
(17,705 posts)I know she means it too.
Cha
(297,722 posts)mahina
(17,705 posts)Cheers
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Bernie's? Not so much.
and rec'd, Cha!
Cha
(297,722 posts)Mahalo~
Hekate
(90,829 posts)The next verse is:
Kathy I'm lost I said though I knew she was sleeping
I'm empty and aching and I don't know why....
That just doesn't say Hope and Change to me. It's sad and yearning and a little bit hopeless. And I never envisioned it with tow-headed tots and baby lambs and hay bales.
Cha
(297,722 posts)years of bush.. and he delivered.
Hillary's message is one of Positive building on all those accomplishments and that includes Fighting for all of America~No matter who you love!
And, Girls can grow up knowing they can be President of the United States of America!
Mahalo, Hecate~
murielm99
(30,765 posts)by the Sanders supporters on this site, you would think they are referring to Dubya. I am fairly sick of it.
BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)felt that a portion of Sanders campaign has been less about looking to the future but trying to recreate a past that never was. Soft focus lenses pointed backward in time, water color representations of a society that worked for some. The era of FDR and Kennedy were times fraught with great strife of al sorts, and rife with inequality. There is so much more to injustice in society than economic issues. I do not want to return to the mindset that only paints in pastels. All of our people deserve a richer pallette to choose from.
livetohike
(22,165 posts)tends to complete the song, whether in advertisements or this. We can't help it 😊. So since we know the songs, we're left to wondering what the thought was behind using it in this manner.
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)Cha
(297,722 posts)Mahalo~
jmowreader
(50,563 posts)I guess we're supposed to get the idea that Bernie is going to return us to the America of our youthful dreams. Problem is, that America never actually existed...especially if you weren't a white conservative male.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)who never actually lived during those years and would be able to receive the check that recollections of those who have would provide. Memories become distorted over time and the retelling of history does too. We owe it to our children and young children to provide honest recounting of the world of our youth.
Cha
(297,722 posts)Sancho
(9,070 posts)Just like some recent satire where they play Bernie's commercial with different AA music, etc., it show that it's pandering to play an all white commercial in Iowa.
Hillary is for everyone - always has been!
Cha
(297,722 posts)satire.. playing his commercial with AA music.. how can they be so tone deaf.
It's comes natural for Hillary to include everyone in her ad for Iowa.
BooScout~
Mahalo!
liberal N proud
(60,346 posts)It played followed by the I approve this message. Only problem, there was no message, only video and music.
Coolest Ranger
(2,034 posts)Cha
(297,722 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Bernie does not say a word in it.
Cha
(297,722 posts)Mahalo, treestar~
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I just thought the whole thing was nostalgic white boomer catnip.
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)Things the female white boomer remembers:
* on a first date we would be told that sleeping with him is good for our health plus we are responsible for birth control because condoms diminish his manhood
* on a second date he brings his laundry with him and tells us how he likes his shirts ironed
* on a third date he expects us to cook dinner
* on the fourth date ... well its not a date because we need to take a vacuum cleaner to his apartment and clean while he plays slow-pitch softball followed by a night out with the guys
* on the fifth date we need to get married because he needs a deferment quickly followed by children because he needs more deferments.
After we divorce he does not pay child support because the courts can't make him and he doesn't see any reason to spend time with the children and they belong to me anyway.
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Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I would have been up for murder 1.
Honestly, I've thought Paul Simon was a dick for years, and liked him even less when I heard how awful he was to Carrie Fisher.
FSogol
(45,529 posts)Cha
(297,722 posts)yardwork
(61,712 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)Loverly post!
Cha
(297,722 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)The "Trump Network" also promotes Sanders at every opportunity. Maybe the National Broadcasting "Company" (Corporation) likes a beatable Democrat?
MSNBC became unwatchable months ago. The blatant bias is now at Fox News level.
CNN and PBS seem to be retaining a level of journalistic neutrality (which annoys the shit out of Sanders supporters).
Many MSNBC pundits like Capehart go off-network to express their real opinions, and have to dance around the MSNBC 'show hosts' who have lost their integrity for a regular paycheck.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)With the other, like a scratched 78.
Cha
(297,722 posts)Mahalo
Thinkingabout
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lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Cha
(297,722 posts)#I'mWithHer~
pandr32
(11,617 posts)...and she's got it. We all need to stand up for her.
Cha
(297,722 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Bernie's ad panders to white, rural Iowans. Hillary's ad shows her at her best, including everyone. I love seeing her with children; you can clearly see she cares deeply about them.
Cha
(297,722 posts)they are.. Hillary blows them out of the water!
Hillary with some more kids..
Ana Hauhet
(67 posts)thanks
still_one
(92,422 posts)Molusko
(26 posts)A GOP super-PAC made an ad calling Sanders "too liberal" in hopes that this will bolster his chances against Hillary in the Democratic primary. The right wingers want to run against Sanders.
Steve Benin of the Maddow blog says this " is the latest evidence of the GOP trying to help Sanders, not hurt him." http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/anti-sanders-attack-ad-isnt-quite-what-it-seems-be
Cha
(297,722 posts)mcar
(42,376 posts)That is a great ad!
Cha
(297,722 posts)We're too cool.. #I'mWithHer Mahalo!
sheshe2
(83,928 posts)Hillary's vid is awesome. So very inclusive.
Great Op Cha~
Cha
(297,722 posts)I was hoping this was you! lol
Hillary speaks for all of America.. that other guy.. who knows what he's doing.
Welcome back to Hill's Group, too!
sheshe2
(83,928 posts)Thanks Cha!
Cha
(297,722 posts)and, that other guy is so desperate.
It'll be great when she's Prez and he has to live with his stupid attacks.
Boo~
And that is so right on.
Cha
(297,722 posts)and the other guy's says nothing. Incredible but true.
Thank you so much, Kath!
Good Morning Cha!
Cha
(297,722 posts)#50! I knew somebody would along and make it an even fifty! lol
Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)Cha
(297,722 posts)Thank you for that, Rose.
Roy said.." it was for Iowa.. they do that farm stuff.." Trevor: "But, it says for America!" Oooops, Jonathan Capehart and we weren't the only ones who noticed.
Spazito
(50,484 posts)Thanks for posting this, it is an excellent comparison and I feel the same way Mr. Capehart does about the ads.
Cha
(297,722 posts)posted it up thread.. same like Jonathan Capeheart only more satire and funnier.
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/eorj2o/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-advertisement-tonight---marco-rubio-s-endorsement-and-bernie-sanders-s--america-
Spazito
(50,484 posts)thanks to Rose for posting it and you for pointing it out to me. The ad certainly lacks any color, it is glaring and, imo, sad.
Cha
(297,722 posts)so tone deaf.
That's just not America.. now if they had said "Iowa".. they might be on to something.
Spazito
(50,484 posts)the ad might resemble Iowa but it sure doesn't resemble the makeup of America at all.