Sanders wants raw votes released

[Treant]

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/02/bernie-sanders-requests-vote-count-tight-finish-iowa-caucus-clinton

Presented without comment, because I'm certain all you good people are thinking the same and will happily say it.

From the article:

“I honestly don’t know what happened. I know there are some precincts that have still not reported. I can only hope and expect that the count will be honest,” he said. “I have no idea. Did we win the popular vote? I don’t know, but as much information as possible should be made available.”

[Starry Messenger]

1. Sore Loserman.

[William769]

2. That about sums it up.

[Starry Messenger]

4. I am having to sit on my hands today, to keep from expressing lots of feelings.

It's quite telling however, that a woman can't win a contest without the whole world declaring her somehow the loser.

[William769]

6. Agreed on both counts.

But you do have a place where you can express your feelings.

[Starry Messenger]

13. That's true, I wanted to bathe in some tears here first, lol.

[Treant]

5. I didn't want to say it, but...

yes. Will this have an impact in NH? Probably not, but it's not going to enamor him to the Democrats in other states.

Maybe he can stand out front of Clinton's hotel room chanting "She's a Liar!"

[Starry Messenger]

12. I watched the caucus on Twitter last night.

More than one report of Bernie's caucusers saying sexist things and harassing Clinton causcusers. I can't imagine how they think they are going to win this with negativity and intimidation. That stuff starts at the top, imo.

[stonecutter357]

3. Sanders can't have everything he wants .

[FloridaBlues]

7. I expect nothing else from weaver and campaugn

Who cares about the popular vote there it's not a contest of popular votes
I guess they will sue themselves to win
Be careful of what you wish just might find out she won with the most people present.

[Iliyah]

8. Yes, I see how the corporate media is treating HRC like she a 2nd class citizen

And ya know, if the tables were turned, we would be infested with trumpet joys. No matter, HRC will win the nominee.

[Walk away]

16. this post was moved

[DeadLetterOffice]

9. Wouldn't Hillary want the same thing if their places were reversed?

I don't quite see the problem with saying as much info as possible should be made available.

[Walk away]

17. I don't think that Hillary Clinton would virtually accuse the Democratic of election fraud.

She has way too much class. Bernie is always going to play the victim of the party.

[JimDandy]

28. I thought both of them had volunteers with an app at each pct that kept track of thenumber of voters

Often the Dem party doesn't release raw vote totals to the public for political reasons, but the candidates should each have them.

[firebrand80]

10. The Sanders campaign is becoming quite adept

at whipping the BernieBros into a tizzy.

During the hacking scandal I think they learned a valuable lesson about he fundraising power of faux outrage

[Tommy2Tone]

11. Bernie feeds his followers raw meat on a daily basis

It's always about the evil machine screwing Sanders. I am beginning to loathe him as a candidate. I am not even talking about voting for him if he wins the nomination because it ain't ever going to happen. No matter what kind of free gifts he offers his fans.

[Walk away]

14. Maybe he should threaten to sue!

Or better yet...he could just steal the data!!!

[SunSeeker]

37. ...

[Cha]

38. Touche~

[enid602]

15. outcome

He was probably expecting a better outcome, given the dirty tricks.

[Tarheel_Dem]

18. Well, you know, it's cuz "the establishment", and other such stuff like that there.

[FrenchieCat]

19. He should do what he wants....

If he wants to attempt to have Hillary further denigrated by by generating among his supporters, more of the name calling, that's sad. If he claims to be working under the DNC's apparatus, then considering that this was so close, than it shouldn't matter to the extent of distracting the goal of the Democrats, as this was only the first primary.

It is understood that the Sanders campaign need something further to try and turn off as many voters, especially minority voters as possible from Hillary, I get it. But winning on the issues is what they should want, without one of those issues being Hillary Clinton's character, as when they do this, they are only helping Rubio become the next President. In-party squabbling never looks leader-like, and fanning the fire is a part of that. We all should be mindful that these are the primaries, not the general election.

The media is also pushing the meme....because in the end, they are Corporate stooges, including MSNBC, who have gotten quite bold at stirring the shit. They know liberals watch their Corporate channel more than the rest, which is why they show Clinton with the box checked as the winner as often as possible. They want the two sides to infight to a point that the party will be split up, and the Republican will win. It is that simple, and the question is who will take the bait, and who will take the high road? I am hoping both spit the bait out to say no thanks, and get back to the issues, rather than attempting at the politics of destruction, which neither side should be engaging in......as we are supposed to be in the same party.

[snot]

20. I wish Gore had done the like.

[Rose Siding]

24. Gore DID. And he pushed it all the way to SCOTUS because HE knew he was right

[Cha]

35. #HillaryWONIowa & #HillaryWONtheCoinTosses! #HillaryhastheMomentum!

[NurseJackie]

21. It's obvious what he's doing. (What's unclear is whether it's intentional or reflexive.)

He's not making an accusation ... he's just "asking a question".

It's a passive-aggressive way of making an accusation without being direct or blunt. Just planting doubts and innocently suggesting that "if there are concerns, it should be investigated".

[Treant]

22. I know.

Don't you think Bernie Sanders already looks really tired at this point? I mean, really run down already? Kind of low energy and possibly like he's not well?

I'm just asking a question, here.

[BigGLiberal]

23. What, his supporters calling Hillary a liar wasn't enough.

He has no class.

[BooScout]

25. He should start a petition...

...or perhaps swarm someone's FB page. That always works so well.

[Princess Turandot]

26. Have they demanded that the flip coins be impounded?

Given that it was founded in 1792, the US Mint is as establishment as it gets!

[Metric System]

27. THIS is how you know Hillary won Iowa (well, in addition to the delegate count).

[JimDandy]

29. This is normal for a candidate to do, especially in advance of a recount.

I think the public is pretty cognizant of that. The Iowa Dem Party said this is the closest apart two candidates have ever been before. Were this a publicly run election, I'd think a recount this close would be automatic in most US jurisdictions. as I said upthread, I am surprised Bernie is asking for the raw vote totals as I thought both the candidates had volunteers at each precinct with apps that were amassing those totals.

[Metric System]

30. This is a caucus, not a primary. Caucuses are wacky.

[JimDandy]

34. I know. I was generalizing. Been at many Dem caucuses and helped run 1.

In every state, I've every voted the Dems used that wacky way of winnowing down the candidates.

[Historic NY]

31. No wonder they don't even know the difference..

he could join the Republicans if he wants a popular vote.

[kjones]

32. He knows how to stir the shit

and he plays his supporters like a violin.



His decades as a politician are showing.

[Thinkingabout]

33. There will be more times the results will not make Sanders happy, this is a part political

process.

[SunSeeker]

36. Sanders: "I honestly don’t know what happened."

Here, I'll help you: YOU LOST.