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72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 08:20 AM Feb 2016

Winners and losers from the 5th Democratic presidential debate (Cillizza)

[link:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/04/winners-and-losers-from-the-5th-democratic-presidential-debate/|


Winners
* Hillary Clinton: This was not a debate in which Clinton scored a knockout blow. It was one, however, that she won on points. Clinton came out super aggressive in the debate's first 30 minutes, pushing Sanders back on his heels on, well, everything: Guns, experience, the tenor of the campaign, what it means to be progressive and plenty of other things.

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Winners and losers from the 5th Democratic presidential debate (Cillizza) (Original Post) 72DejaVu Feb 2016 OP
K&R! stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #1
Mahalo 72DejaVu~ Cha Feb 2016 #2
she did great! Ana Hauhet Feb 2016 #3
Hillary is at ease on many subjects and responds well. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #4
Wow. Cillizza gets something right! mcar Feb 2016 #5
+1000. Never read a column of his about Hillary that wasn't negative. nt Fla Dem Feb 2016 #9
The fetal position comes to mind when I think of what Hillary did to Bernie. William769 Feb 2016 #6
Even Cillizza had to admit Hillary's dominance. oasis Feb 2016 #7
She took it to him and made him back down! yallerdawg Feb 2016 #8
I saw it have an effect on him, too pandr32 Feb 2016 #10
Twice, he was so lost Control-Z Feb 2016 #11
I love his points about Bernie's public financing hypocrisy and Bernie being a one-issue candidate: SunSeeker Feb 2016 #12
K&R dlwickham Feb 2016 #13

Cha

(297,221 posts)
2. Mahalo 72DejaVu~
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 08:38 AM
Feb 2016

MSNBC
?@MSNBC .@HillaryClinton defines what it means to be progressive at the #DemDebate. Watch live: http://on.msnbc.com/23L9d02



It's so funny.. that's what I use to say about President Obama when his attackers for the last 7 years said he wasn't "progressive".. I said: "President Obama is very Progressive.. look at all the Progress he's made. They aren't interested in real progress.. they'd rather someone just talk about it.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. Hillary is at ease on many subjects and responds well.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 09:44 AM
Feb 2016

Sanders still has his feet stuck in cement, doesn't get far away from his canned financial answers, doesn't expand on his agenda, doesn't provide realistic answers on the cost and just how much taxes are going to have to increase to pay for his agenda.

pandr32

(11,583 posts)
10. I saw it have an effect on him, too
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:56 AM
Feb 2016

He looked schooled at times. He was the little sapling beside the gigantic evergreen tree. There were a few moments he almost looked ashamed that he had tried to take her on, but perhaps it was my imagination.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
11. Twice, he was so lost
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 11:18 AM
Feb 2016

he came out and just kind of the threw in the towel and admitted he couldn't compete with Hillary on the subject at hand. Then he went on to try and explain that her stellar experience and knowledge wasen't what was needed to be president anyway. Priceless.

SunSeeker

(51,556 posts)
12. I love his points about Bernie's public financing hypocrisy and Bernie being a one-issue candidate:
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 11:39 AM
Feb 2016
Also, kudos to the duo for asking thoughtful questions that haven't been asked of the candidates a thousand times before; Todd's question to Sanders about why he wasn't taking public financing for the primary campaign was an A+.

Losers

* Bernie Sanders: I hesitate to put the Vermont socialist in the "loser" category because he did very little in the debate that will slow his momentum heading into a near-certain New Hampshire win. But I also hate when analysts and reporters take the easy way out when picking winners and losers. It was a two-person debate; if Clinton won then Sanders, by definition, didn't win. (This is the problem with using the binary choice of "winner" and "loser" to grade debates. But I digress.)

I thought Sanders was forceful and effective, as always, when talking about economic inequality and campaign finance reform. I thought he may have allowed himself to be put in a box as a single- or double-issue candidate down the line by Clinton, however.



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