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Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:13 AM

New poll shows that Black voters really aren’t ‘Feeling the Bern’



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For example, much has been made of Sanders’s popularity with younger voters, and Clinton’s struggles to connect with millennials. Among black voters age 18-29, the gap between Sanders and Clinton is indeed narrower. But younger black voters still rate Clinton more favorably than Sanders:

Perhaps most troublesome for Sanders, however, is the ambivalence toward him expressed by black women. Black women comprise a disproportionate segment of the black electorate — due in part to laws in some states preventing ex-felons, many of them black men, from voting.

According to the U.S. Census, turnout among black women in 2012 was almost nine percentage points higher than turnout among black men — a gender gap larger than the gender gap among Hispanics, Asians, and non-Hispanic whites. Moreover, black women tend to vote for Democrats at even higher rates than black men.

In other words, a Democratic victory in the general election requires enthusiastic support from black women, and black women are significantly more enthusiastic about Clinton than Sanders.

MOre~https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/02/18/new-poll-shows-that-black-voters-really-arent-feeling-the-bern/

Excellent!

Blacks outvoted whites in 2012, the first time on record

According to CNN exit polls, 93% of African-Americans, 71% of Hispanics and 73% of Asians supported Obama over Romney.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/09/blacks-outvoted-whites-in-2012-the-first-time-on-record/

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Reply New poll shows that Black voters really aren’t ‘Feeling the Bern’ (Original post)
Cha Feb 2016 OP
bravenak Feb 2016 #1
Cha Feb 2016 #2
bravenak Feb 2016 #3
Cha Feb 2016 #6
JRLeft Feb 2016 #7
Cha Feb 2016 #4
bravenak Feb 2016 #5
Cha Feb 2016 #8
bravenak Feb 2016 #10
Cha Feb 2016 #11
bravenak Feb 2016 #12
Cha Feb 2016 #14
brer cat Feb 2016 #38
Lucinda Feb 2016 #9
Cha Feb 2016 #15
Lucinda Feb 2016 #16
Cha Feb 2016 #17
Lucinda Feb 2016 #18
Cha Feb 2016 #20
Lucinda Feb 2016 #22
shenmue Feb 2016 #13
Cha Feb 2016 #23
SunSeeker Feb 2016 #19
Cha Feb 2016 #25
Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #21
Cha Feb 2016 #26
Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #24
Cha Feb 2016 #31
Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #32
Ellen Forradalom Feb 2016 #27
Cha Feb 2016 #34
DemonGoddess Feb 2016 #28
Cha Feb 2016 #37
Name removed Feb 2016 #29
Coolest Ranger Feb 2016 #30
lunamagica Feb 2016 #35
Cha Feb 2016 #41
Ellen Forradalom Feb 2016 #46
Treant Feb 2016 #48
lunamagica Feb 2016 #33
Cha Feb 2016 #42
Ellen Forradalom Feb 2016 #47
Gothmog Feb 2016 #36
Cha Feb 2016 #43
Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #39
Cha Feb 2016 #44
Treant Feb 2016 #49
Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #51
mcar Feb 2016 #40
Cha Feb 2016 #45
ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #50
Dawson Leery Feb 2016 #52

Response to Cha (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:17 AM

1. And I never will

 

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Response to bravenak (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:22 AM

2. And, I love you and all the African American Community who are way too

smart.. you won't be bamboozled to borrow President Obama's word on his campaign trails.

Mahalo, brave

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Response to Cha (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:23 AM

3. We love you too and are not feeling this at ALL

 

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Response to bravenak (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:30 AM

6. Like a 180 degrees!

Thank you!

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Response to bravenak (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:24 AM

4. P. S. you saw Blacks Outvoted Whites in 2012.. Wow..

that really says something!

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Response to Cha (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:26 AM

5. And black WOMEN most of all

 

I wonder if Bernie knows, with his "I SAID BLACK FIFTY TIMES!!' Self

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Response to bravenak (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:39 AM

8. 51 times! I know Black Women are the highest percentage of Voters.. reading that last

night my heart was going out to you all!

They're not impressed by the "outreach".. I can't imagine why. I could count the ways but I know I'm being lurked right now and they wouldn't like it at all.

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Response to Cha (Reply #8)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:49 AM

10. The outreach is rude

 

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Response to bravenak (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:50 AM

11. Yes, killer mike and cornel west come to mind.

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Response to Cha (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:51 AM

12. And the spamming of us on social media

 

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Response to bravenak (Reply #12)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:01 AM

14. Yeah, that always works.. these Black Women certainly aren't buyin it..

Angela Bassett Tweet~

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110744104#top

Clinton Gains Support From 170 African American Women Leaders

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110742047

So brilliant.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:56 AM

38. Those who ignore the power of black women

are not just unenlightened, but are suffering from head-up-ass disease which may become terminal before they recognize it.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:43 AM

9. Thank you Cha! Happy Nevada Primary Day!

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Response to Lucinda (Reply #9)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:12 AM

15. You're Welcome, Luncinda.. Happy Nevada Primary Day to you, too!

And, to us all!

Love the Black Folk.. they are so beautiful!

Long Lines for Black Voters in Battleground Virginia



http://politic365.com/2012/11/06/long-lines-for-black-voters-in-battleground-virginia/

Hillary Clinton has one of the best platforms to protect voting rights that I have seen



http://www.democraticunderground.com/110750108

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Response to Cha (Reply #15)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:16 AM

16. Such a great video too!

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Response to Lucinda (Reply #16)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:18 AM

17. Compelling! i just saw you were on that thread when I kicked it..

you know all about how great it is.

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Response to Cha (Reply #17)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:33 AM

18. Yawp. I keep popping in and out today. So much going on!

Not a good day for me health-wise, but I can't stay away this close to another primary!



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Response to Lucinda (Reply #18)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:19 AM

20. I so hope you start feeling better.. awful when we don't feel our best.

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Response to Cha (Reply #20)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:40 AM

22. Thank you Cha! It's is sort of a chronic thing.

I have good days and bad days, but I stay pretty happy in spite of it all.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:56 AM

13. Yeah!

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Response to shenmue (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:52 AM

23. Mahalo, shenmue!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:54 AM

19. K & R

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #19)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:50 AM

25. Mahalo SunSeeker~

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:29 AM

21. Well, this "black voter" would seek medical attention for any kind of "bern".

And I think my POTUS would agree.

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #21)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:33 AM

26. POTUS is POTUS but he's also one of those brilliant Black Voters and I know

who he's voting for.

Mahalo, Tarheel!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:44 AM

24. All the pander and they still don't feel the bern,

Just don't believe the pander.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #24)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:13 AM

31. Killermike & Cornel West havn't been helpful in their outreach to Black Voters from

all the posts and tweets I've read, Thinkingabout.

Thank you!

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Response to Cha (Reply #31)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:34 AM

32. Some just don't fall for bs, doesn't matter who is selling.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:19 AM

27. Chasing any electorate as an afterthought

is a surefire way to lose them fast. The Clintons have been building relationships for decades. Not so much Bernie.

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Response to Ellen Forradalom (Reply #27)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:13 AM

34. Excellent point, Ellen.. Thank you!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:38 AM

28. K&R!

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Response to DemonGoddess (Reply #28)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:47 AM

37. Mahalo, DemonGoddess!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:08 AM

30. No we aren't

and quite frankly we are getting tired at Sanders supporters telling us that hey you should vote for him because he marched with Dr. King. I usually respond that was 48 years ago, what has he done for my community since then? Then they go to, he marched with Dr. Lewis. I'm like okay but that still does not explain to me what he has done for my community.

Then they go to he going to get us all free stuff. Then I ask them how are you going to get it through a republican controlled congress. Dead silence, nothing but dead silence. Then they come back and say he's fighting for our issues.

To which I reply do you understand that as a black man, your issues that you are voting for is not the same as the issues that I am voting for. I try to explain to them that they never have to worry about cops profiling them. I try to tell them that they never have to worry about being stopped and then frisked like we are. I explain to them that they never have to live in a community where the water is poisoned. I also explain to them that no one is trying to suppress your vote. They always come back to the economic crap which I could not care less about right now.

They wonder why so many of us get frustrated at their constant lack of reason. I just don't even engage them any more. I know they go back and tell their fellow supporters what I say because moments later, I see new Bernie people come into my comments trying their little hearts out to convince me I'm on the wrong side. Sometimes they will get a young POC to make their argument. I go on that person's page and I see that it was just created in the last few months so most of the time I don't know if that POC is real or someone white pretending to be black.

I will be glad when the primaries are over and Hillary is our nominee.

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Reply #30)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:15 AM

35. Those post sound to me like they are saying "You owe him". When you do something, you do it because

it is the right thing to do, not expecting anything in return.

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Reply #30)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 10:28 AM

41. Excellent point, Coolest.. "their constant lack of reason.."

Thank you!

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Reply #30)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:46 PM

46. I am not impressed with this "indie creds" approach to politics.

involvement in a movement 50 years ago, while great and important, is not the same as building a political presence over time: *Show up, stump, raise money, shake hands, eat hots dogs off paper plates, repeat from * . Hillary has done that and Bernie has not. The simple fact that she is raising money for downticket races along with her own, while Bernie is not, speaks volumes.

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Reply #30)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:59 PM

48. You sound a bit like me...

...on an analogous issue. I tend to prioritize LBGT support...and only one candidate has spoken strongly about it in an Administrative position, mentions the community frequently in her speeches, and didn't weasel word her way out of actually evolving and changing her mind.

As the leader of the Executive Branch, President H. Clinton won't be creating any legislation, but she sets the nation's tone. And so far, she's done a very good job at that in her campaign.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:10 AM

33. Very true Cha! It is good to see that black millenials are more realistic than their white peers

and are able to see the multiple holes in the promises made by Sanders.

And black women? What a great force. It's good to see them being so powerful in deciding who will lead the nation!

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Response to lunamagica (Reply #33)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 10:55 AM

42. Yes, it good to see when somebody deals in reality. and it makes perfect sense

that it would be Black millennials.

It's no coincidence that there are going to be 170 Black Women Leaders going down to South Carolina to knock on doors and make phone calls for Hillary, lunamagica.

Clinton Gains Support From 170 African American Women Leaders

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110742047

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Response to lunamagica (Reply #33)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:47 PM

47. About time too.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:39 AM

36. Thanks for posting

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #36)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:29 AM

43. You're Welcome and Thank you, Goth

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 10:07 AM

39. The most progressive voters aren't feeling the Bern.

To me that has always spoken volumes.

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #39)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:53 AM

44. They're brilliant .. why would they want to get berned?!

Mahalo Starry!

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #39)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:01 PM

49. For a while,

I wondered what was wrong with myself and if I had to redefine myself as a moderate Democrat since I supported Clinton over Sanders.

Then I woke up and realized it wasn't the message (Sanders does have a nice message on things that should be done). It's the reality of the situation--and the fact that I strongly prefer substance over...well, you can't call what he does "style." Let's just say "message."

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Response to Treant (Reply #49)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:57 PM

51. Nah, we aren't.

It's more a question of seeing who the real enemy is. Some folks out there want to damage the Obama coalition because they think that is the threat to their privilege.

Most of us for Clinton seemed to be more alarmed by the right-wing taking control of the White House.

That's my observation, anyway. And is it really a "revolution" if the only people showing up are from one demographic? And the unions aren't feeling it either?

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 10:23 AM

40. Excellent!

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Response to mcar (Reply #40)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:11 PM

45. Can't force feed .. just doesn't work.

Mahalo mcar~

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:49 PM

50. Not surprising.

Sanders has some support of course, and that is enough for his campaign apparently. Reaching out and listening to the AA community doesn't fit the campaign's "economic justice" narrative, for obvious reasons. While the part of me that is a Hill supporter is a bit gleeful--I believe this is a huge mistake on the part of Sanders campaign--I would rather both our major candidates make a strong effort to listen to AA's and PoC and address concerns. O'Malley had an excellent, excellent-platform, I still hope to see him involved in Hillary's presidency

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:30 PM

52. The fast talk express is going to be derail in the next few weeks.

Fact: Bill lost the first few states in 1992 only to rack up win after win starting on Super Tuesday.

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