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Related: About this forumClinton and Sanders Voted the Same Way 93% of the Time!
Hi, fellow supporters of Hillary! One of my favorite sites for tracking elections since 2004 has been http://electoral-vote.com. I just stumbled on this interesting story over there and wanted to share it with everyone:
While a lot of Sanders supporters see Hillary Clinton as a corporate shill who can't be trusted, in reality Sanders and Clinton don't actually differ that much. The New York Times investigated how they voted during the two years they were in the Senate together. On 93% of the votes, they voted the same way. They did differ 31 times, though (7%) and the article lists every vote where they didn't agree. Clinton's voting record is comparable to that of Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) and Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-MD), both liberal stalwarts.
Clinton and Sanders differed eight times on foreign policy and defense, mostly on Iran, Guantanamo, and the defense budget. Most times Clinton voted with overwhelming Democratic majorities and Sanders opposed them. On immigration, they differed seven times, once on Y-1 visas and six times on procedural questions. On the financial crisis of 2008, they disagreed three times. Clinton supported Obama on bailing out the banks to avoid destroying the financial system; Sanders voted with the Republicans to let the banks fail.
On energy, they differed four times. Clinton supported ethanol (probably because she was already thinking about the Iowa caucuses) and Sanders opposed it. They also differed on some loans and credits. On homeland security, they differed four times, all of which were close votes in the Senate. Three of them related to the conditions of issuing grants related to homeland security. The other one was about giving immunity to suspicious people who reported threats. Clinton was for immunity; Sanders was opposed.
The last five were a mixed bag. Clinton supported NIST's Advanced Technology Program; Sanders didn't. Clinton supported the FDA reform bill (2x), Sanders was opposed. Clinton opposed earmarks and Sanders supported them. Finally, Clinton supported $45 billion in estate tax exemptions and Sanders, this time in the majority, opposed them.
Last paragraph at link:
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2016/Pres/Maps/Feb26.html#item-6
I would post this in General Discussion: Primaries, but I don't see the point in doing that, as the Sanders supporters aren't very fond of engaging in actually discussion and I'm not fond of wasting my time. So, I figured I would share it with you guys. It's amazing how much the Sanders supporters and others across the country have lapped up this nonsense that Secretary Clinton is untrustworthy or a corporate shill. I'm very proud to be supporting her and I look forward to her winning tomorrow and then winning the primary. I also visited http://fivethrityeight.com and found that currently Hillary is expected to win in most of the up coming primaries:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/south-carolina-democratic/
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Clinton and Sanders Voted the Same Way 93% of the Time! (Original Post)
Stand and Fight
Feb 2016
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Lucinda
(31,170 posts)1. Hello!
We've mentioned the similarities in the voting a few times, but it doesn't really seem to set in!
Thanks for sharing the links!
Tomorrow, and next Tues should be really great days!
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)2. Well, you brought it to the right place!
What Senator Sanders (I-VT) says:
"Yes, we do agree on a number of issues, and by the way, on her worst day, Hillary Clinton will be an infinitely better candidate and President than the Republican candidate on his best day."
Cha
(296,848 posts)3. And, I could say that right back to sanders