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Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:24 AM

Winners and losers from the South Carolina Democratic primary (Hillary Group)

Source: Washington Post by Aaron Blake

WINNERS

Hillary Clinton: No, this win was not unexpected, but it is still a win for Clinton — and it appears to be an absolute drubbing. She has now won two straight states, and she is clearly the momentum candidate heading into Super Tuesday — which is, after all, just three days away. The question from here is whether Clinton can begin to put the race away in short order or if Sanders can hang around somehow — despite increasingly daunting delegate math. That’s a far different conversation than we were having after Clinton got blown out in the New Hampshire primary two and a half weeks ago.

Black voters: Eight years after South Carolina sent Barack Obama further on his way to becoming the first black president, black voters sent a message Saturday that was loud and clear: We aren't going anywhere. Early exit poll numbers suggest the black share of the electorate could hit a new record — about 6 in 10 voters in Saturday's primary. That would exceed even the percentage in 2008, when the eventual first black president was on the ballot. That record turnout comes after a South Carolina campaign that was focused intently on wooing black voters — even more so than in 2008. The combination of those two things mean black voters just asserted themselves as a real force in 2016.


LOSERS

Bernie Sanders: We pretty much knew this wasn't going to be close, but it turned into a disaster for Sanders. Yes, it's one state, but Sanders had one task here: To beat expectations when it comes to black voters. He didn't do that -- at all. He lost their votes a whopping 87-13, according to the most recent exit polls. A while back, a top Sanders adviser mused that he could win South Carolina with 30 percent of the black vote; that proved to be a foolhardy goal. And it's not just that black voters like Clinton better; they didn't seem to trust Sanders either. Just 52 percent said they would trust Sanders to handle race relations. Nearly 9 in 10 said the same of Clinton.

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Young voters: At this rate, all future candidates might as well give up on trying to build a campaign around the support of young people. Despite tens of thousands of people showing up to Sanders rallies, and young people favoring him overwhelmingly so far, they just aren't showing up to vote like he needs them to. Fewer than 1 in 6 voters in South Carolina were under the age of the 30. And it follows a pattern of young people just not giving Sanders the turnout he needs. In fact, young voters were less of the electorate there than in any of the first three states


Read all the rest at: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/27/winners-and-losers-from-the-south-carolina-democratic-primary/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_fix-winners-losers-940pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

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Reply Winners and losers from the South Carolina Democratic primary (Hillary Group) (Original post)
yallerdawg Feb 2016 OP
Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #1
Cha Feb 2016 #4
livetohike Feb 2016 #2
Surya Gayatri Feb 2016 #16
yallerdawg Feb 2016 #17
oberliner Feb 2016 #19
Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #24
BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #29
Cha Feb 2016 #3
yallerdawg Feb 2016 #5
Cha Feb 2016 #7
yallerdawg Feb 2016 #9
yallerdawg Feb 2016 #8
Cha Feb 2016 #11
yallerdawg Feb 2016 #14
spooky3 Feb 2016 #18
Cha Feb 2016 #20
yallerdawg Feb 2016 #21
spooky3 Feb 2016 #23
charlyvi Feb 2016 #27
spooky3 Feb 2016 #28
stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #6
GusBob Feb 2016 #10
LannyDeVaney Feb 2016 #12
yallerdawg Feb 2016 #13
DemonGoddess Feb 2016 #15
MSMITH33156 Feb 2016 #22
UtahLib Feb 2016 #25
misterhighwasted Feb 2016 #26
jmowreader Feb 2016 #30

Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:31 AM

1. Yes, Hillary was handed a victory, thanks for the hard work and voters of SC.

SC has been picking winners, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama won in this state.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:46 AM

4. I like that History, T! Hillary was handed a Blow-Out!

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:42 AM

2. Sanders thinks he is building a movement. If young people are following him, but don't show up to

vote, exactly what kind of movement is it?

They are not motivated to vote. Are they motivated to write their Representatives/ call their Representatives.

What is he asking they do? Or is this just all about him and his ego?

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Response to livetohike (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:31 AM

16. He says he wants a REVOLUUUUTION!

 



You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right

You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We're doing what we can
But when you want money
for people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right
Ah

ah, ah, ah, ah, ah...

You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You better free you mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right
all right, all right, all right
all right, all right, all right

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #16)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:49 AM

17. There was another 'revolution.'

Remember when this song was used by Nike to sell shoes on TV?

Who would have thought the Beatles would be reduced to TV jingle artists?

And now pop rock sells us politicians!



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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #17)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 09:49 AM

19. Nike made that deal with Michael Jackson (who owned the song's rights at the time)

 

The surviving Beatles sued them for using the song without their permission.

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Response to livetohike (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 01:48 PM

24. Maybe Madeline Albright was right? Are these "rallies" a chance to hook up? If that's the case....

couldn't they do that just as well elsewhere? Were the huge rallies just meant to create an illusion? If so, it hasn't panned out. And if winter break has already started, college turnout may be even for worse for BS.

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #24)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:19 PM

29. I believe that was Gloria Steinem? Still, maybe the low turnout has everything to do with some

big party event young students would flock to elsewhere? I thought I heard something like that on cable tv.

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:45 AM

3. Losers..

LOSERS

Bernie Sanders: We pretty much knew this wasn't going to be close, but it turned into a disaster for Sanders. Yes, it's one state, but Sanders had one task here: To beat expectations when it comes to black voters. He didn't do that -- at all. He lost their votes a whopping 87-13, according to the most recent exit polls. A while back, a top Sanders adviser mused that he could win South Carolina with 30 percent of the black vote; that proved to be a foolhardy goal. And it's not just that black voters like Clinton better; they didn't seem to trust Sanders either. Just 52 percent said they would trust Sanders to handle race relations. Nearly 9 in 10 said the same of Clinton.


Yeah, Hillary has won the last two states.. and the last 3 out of 4!

yallerdawg!

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Response to Cha (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:49 AM

5. Cha!

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:52 AM

7. Why would they trust him? He wanted President Obama primaried in 2012 for

cripe sake!

yallerdawg

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Response to Cha (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:56 AM

9. "I didn't see Bernie!"

You have to build trust.

And it can't be built on someone else's Republican propaganda. Democrats aren't buying that!

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Response to Cha (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:52 AM

8. And leftofcool and cosmicone!

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #8)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:58 AM

11. And, stopbush and bravenak, Sheepshank, pnwmom, Mohraktah, DanTex..& the ones I haven't thought of..

Yet!

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Response to Cha (Reply #11)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:09 AM

14. Yes, to the too many on "temporary sabbatical"!

It's getting better everyday now!

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #14)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:53 AM

18. I don't drink but could I come to the party?

I've been on a lotta juries lately...

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #18)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 10:32 AM

20. Of course, spooky. You drink something don't you? lol

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #18)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 10:41 AM

21. I don't drink, either.

But I do the heck out of toast!

With eggs. bacon, waffles - and smothered and covered hash browns!

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #21)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 12:11 PM

23. Yum! And Cha, :-), yes, I'll take coffee and water with that!

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #18)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 04:32 PM

27. Me Too Spooky!

About 8 times this week.

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Response to charlyvi (Reply #27)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:18 PM

28. Wow! I lift my glass to you!

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:51 AM

6. K&R!

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:57 AM

10. Millenials lol

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:00 AM

12. Until they allow folks to Instagram their vote using their XBox controller ...

 

the under-30 turnout will be low this election.



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Response to LannyDeVaney (Reply #12)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:05 AM

13. And don't plan a revolution...

during Spring Break!

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:21 AM

15. K&R!

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 10:59 AM

22. They forgot to

put America as a winner.

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 03:32 PM

25. K&R. nt

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 04:16 PM

26. "Fewer than 1 in 6 voters in South Carolina were under the age of the 30. And it follows a pattern".

"Fewer than 1 in 6 voters in South Carolina were under the age of the 30. And it follows a pattern of young people" 

They're not buying the free stuff anymore.
Bernies ralleys have the same effect as a rock concert.
They don't just gather en masse for the music. Its the crowd, the after party and the social media clicking & liking, after the fact.

And with half of them heading out this week for Spring Break, the election will have to wait till they return and their bank cards are being used for something other than political donations to bernie sanders.

His claim of youth voters is b.s. As is his "revoluuuushon"



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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 09:24 PM

30. Here's a MASSIVE problem for the burn...

Just 52 percent said they would trust Sanders to handle race relations.


Isn't this the guy who loves black people so much he was willing to go to jail to give them freedom and civil rights and shit?

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