To me, the Democratic primaries are over. Hillary has won. Time to focus on the GE.

[Yavin4]

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I'm no longer going to post nor respond to any Bernie supporters. The math will take care of Bernie going forward. I encourage everyone on this forum to start thinking about ways to not only elect Hillary but give her a strong Democratic congress to work with so that things will get done.

The Republican primary reminds me of a horror movie. Whatever comes out of that mess will be a monster that we will have to fight, and we need to get our ducks in a row. I'm sending money to both Hillary's and the DNC. I encourage you to do the same.

On to November!

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Stay out of GDP. It's a huge waste of time. No need to antagonize them any further.

[FarPoint]

1. I agree...

DU has yet to accept the evidence yet...They still target Hillary posters for the jury slammer.

[BlueCaliDem]

2. I have already switched over to G.E. mode. The math just doesn't favor Bernie no matter what his

supporters are hoping for. I've already donated four times to the DCCC and a few times more to HillaryClinton.com. I'm now focused on her defeating Trump (unless they cheat him of his wins at the RNC Convention) and won't bother with Sanders supporters and their anti-Hillary, anti-Democratic Party pontificating - unless it's to remind them that this is the Hillary Clinton Group when they wander on in and post OPs attacking her and/her supporters.

[get the red out]

3. Agree

I have not gotten into the primary debate at all. I really like Bernie Sanders, but I don't hate Hillary Clinton, and I am terrified of the Republican Party, PERIOD.

There would be nothing worse for this country than having a Republican President. SCOTUS!!!!! We could lose our democracy completely through the Supreme Court.

[comradebillyboy]

4. I think that's a bit premature

Although Hillary's position is dominant I think she needs to win the big March primaries to put Bernie away. We wouldn't want any ugly surprises.

[Yavin4]

5. Nope. He can't overcome her demographic advantage at this point.

Nor her delegate count. Nor her Super delegate count. She cannot overcome his advantage.

[charlyvi]

7. According to Poll Tracker,

Hillary is ahead in Illinois b 16%, Michigan by 16.7%, Florida by 25.4%, Ohio 15.3%. These are delegate rich states. I couldn't find anything on New York yet, but since she was a senator there for 8 yrs, I'm thinking she's probably even or ahead. Unless something very, very unusual happens, it's over.

[comradebillyboy]

8. When she wins those states I will be happy and then

I'll worry about the general. In the meantime Trump will be occupied fending off the upcoming attacks from the Republican establishment. No need to get in the way of Republican infighting.

[charlyvi]

10. When your enemy is drowning...

throw him an anchor! (Only in politics, though. LOL)

[comradebillyboy]

12. Exactly so

[Treant]

11. Agreed

At this point, we can't walk into the Convention at +30 delegates, it really needs to be larger than that to completely counteract any accusations (dear jury, they're already being made on GD and GD-P) of fraud.

This needs to be so far ahead that even the simple mention of a conspiracy seems absurd.

For that, I'm sure March 15th will fit the bill, but attention on the states through then to limit Sanders' leads and open up Clinton's wins is wise.

And I'm sure the campaign has already thought about it--Clinton is used to accusations of malfeasance.

[charlyvi]

13. Yes.

As the saying goes, if enough people vote, they can't steal it.

[stonecutter357]

6. K&R!

[Basic LA]

9. They're painted into a corner.

Many of them, at least, are so invested in their Hillary Hatred, that there is nowhere for them to go but to join the right-wing haters for the next 8 years.

[Bleacher Creature]

14. I'd be surprised if Bernie didn't realize that it's over.

At this point, he's got the money to stay in the race (and frankly, he owes it to the people who donated to him recently), but I'm pretty sure it's all about leverage for him now - both in terms of HRC carrying on his cause and in terms of a DNC speaking slot.

It's too bad most of his supporters aren't being realistic. Reality is going to hit them hard.

[Treant]

15. He already gets the plummy

speaker's spot in June just for having competed. There's no requirement of even carrying a single delegate, although of course he did far better than that.

In terms of leverage, he's dragged Clinton to the left on some things, but she's dragged him to the left on others (gun control and immigration, most notably). So I'm not sure how effective staying in will be at this point, or his motivations for doing so.

It clearly isn't to win, the campaign stopped working an all-state strategy before Super Tuesday and started to focus on smaller states. It's not to build a coalition, they're making no effort to do that (and the clock is ticking).

So I have no clue. I have a guess...but it's rather unpleasant and would earn me a hide if I suggested it for daring to criticize.

[charlyvi]

17. I don't know if he would accept a speaking position

How soon will he stop being a Democrat?

[Treant]

18. Technically,

he's already tossed his hat into the ring for the Senate as an Independent. So really, I guess he already isn't.

Functionally, he leaves the party in June.

Paperwork, unknown. Probably July.

[Tarheel_Dem]

16. I don't do GDP, but given last night's results, polling from upcoming contests & math, some are....

lashing out in grief. We just have to recognize that some are heavily invested, both financially and emotionally, and even if they never acknowledge it, they can see the writing on the wall as well as the rest of us.