Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumHillary Group-I think I finally realized Why some Sanders supporters are so angry
They are the ones who wanted a coronation. They are the ones who wanted the rest of us to just roll over and accept Sanders as the Democratic nominee.
All this crap about him polling the best in the general election is nothing more than a smokescreen.
They point to these polls while ignoring the fact that the Democratic base voting in the primaries and caucuses favor Hillary.
It reminds me of an authority figure who says he or she knows what's best for you so sit down and shut up.
Guess what I'm not going to and Iknow millions of others who aren't going to do that either.
They accuse Hillary supporters of being arrogant? Some people need take a long hard look in the mirror.

Response to dlwickham (Original post)
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Stand and Fight
(7,496 posts)You also realize that by posting this condescending and snarky video response, you only serve to prove the OP's point and show your glaring lack of class, civility, or maturity?
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)


BUH BUY
shenmue
(38,542 posts)
George II
(67,782 posts)Gothmog
(161,712 posts)These polls are worthless and do not show that Sanders is electable
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)Like free college, single payer health care, etc. They have no clue as to how our government actually works and a president cannot deliver any of those things without congress.
Sanders knows and he's been pandering since day one. He doesn't have the political clout to deliver on any of his promises, but he gets followers nonetheless.
Stand and Fight
(7,496 posts)I refused to tell people the stupid kinds of things others were like -- I'll make sure that every lunch comes with a free brownie (someone promised this!) -- and I won the election for Student Body President and other offices based on this.
LisaM
(29,112 posts)
otohara
(24,135 posts)he should have worked to get more elected and encouraged people to vote for Dems. Instead he whipped up a whole bunch of anger towards Democrats. I used to listen to him rant every week on the radio, but grew tired of it especially when he started with the primary talk.
David Plouffe is on record - they thought Sanders was going to primary Obama.
boston bean
(36,765 posts)Makes me sort of really not like him, personally.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)If in the very unlikely events that he wins a) the Primaries and b) the GE, and he fails to deliver the free college, single payer health, etc. etc. If you think they're angry NOW, picture his failed presidency. Happily, that won't happen!
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)And when he doesn't, then not only would it been seen as a failed presidency, it would be seen as Progressivism failed, and the movement would be set back for generations.
For Sanders' policies to be enacted, he needs more than a political revolution. He needs a cultural one. He fails to mention the high level of taxation that Europeans pay for these social programs and the lower level of spending on defense since they rely on the US to come to their rescue if bad things happen.
Sanders believes that resistance to his policies are coming from the establishment, Wall Street, and billionaires, but that is patently false. The American people don't want to pay higher taxes for greater social spending and they don't want to make huge cuts in defense as well. Until you change that culturally, we're never going to be Europe.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)The idea that people would think Clinton will make a better President than Sanders is inconceivable to them, so they grasp at straws to come up with an excuse for Sanders.
They grasp theoretical match-ups because they are looking for something to justify their faith.
question everything
(50,053 posts)even his campaign was hoping for winning in five states and he won only four.
aaaaaa5a
(4,672 posts)or know you are going to lose.
If I recall, there were plenty of Clinton supporters who were upset in the Spring of 2008.
Stand and Fight
(7,496 posts)I didn't once come on here and attack Obama supporters. Not once did my wife or I find it necessary to come on and insult people. That's called maturity. Hopefully they get a bit of that.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,571 posts)Treant
(1,968 posts)Then, "Not that I think Obama will be a bad President and I'll vote for him." Which I did.
Twice.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I went through the same process, then worked for and voted for Obama.
George II
(67,782 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,376 posts)And even though I was an Obama-crazed fan, I have friends who were Hillary08 supporters from nice interactions we had after the primaries. I don't get the sense that is going to come about after this.
Tommy2Tone
(1,307 posts)I agree
k and r
UMTerp01
(1,048 posts)This is the natural ebb and flow of politics. Just like this sudden outrage about superdelegates. Superdelegates aren't new. This isn't some new phenomenon that started with Hillary Clinton. But for whatever reason, this election cycle there is such outrage that there are superdelegates already committed to her. Personally, I DON'T like the idea of superdelegates and never have. But the outrage this cycle is on hyperdrive.
Yes, Bernie supporters are going to be very upset. I forget who was on one of the cable shows and made a very good point. In 2008, Obama was the movement, and he said its much easier to get the establishment to go with the movement, then to get the movement to go with the establishment. So I think you could have more disaffected Bernie supporters this cycle. I'm undecided. Once I vote in April, if I vote Bernie and it ends up being Hillary then I will back Hillary. Can't afford to not vote or sit out.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)that's the reason for the primary, to choose the candidate that will represent us in the General!
I voted for Hillary in 2008, but accepted that yes Obama got more votes and delegates. Live with it!! Que sera sera!! Let bygones be bygones!! No sense being nasty to your own party. Geesh!!
After the nominee was selected in 2008 it was full force from then on!!!!!
BlueMTexpat
(15,571 posts)I know many people like you and I consider them good friends.
That's the real world.
LuvLoogie
(7,964 posts)It's like a sudden herd of carribou or flock of starlings...
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)shenmue
(38,542 posts)
pandr32
(12,854 posts)
Alfresco
(1,698 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Of a certain segment of BSS
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Exactly! Perfect description.



dlwickham
(3,316 posts)Hehe
HillareeeHillaraah
(685 posts)Hillary listens.
Bernie tells.
People want to be heard.
That's why I think she's winning.

Loki
(3,826 posts)but I think it's passed into the cult of personality and no one can say anything about their "Dear Leader". They have lost the capability to think logically and with rational expectations. I guess I understand the Tea Party fanaticism better now. I once felt that way about Robert Kennedy, but after his assassination, I vowed to never let myself get that attached to any political figure. They are just people with all the frailties that go with being human.
Politicub
(12,309 posts)The only polls that count are the primary and the election.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)I find it funny as hell to be mansplained to by them.
In my case, I find it a real blip and tell them how cute I think it is.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,443 posts)
SunSeeker
(55,471 posts)joshcryer
(62,515 posts)Which is looking, unfortunately, quite likely.
Many Sanders "supporters" just backed him because he was an alternative to Clinton, and their support will drop as soon as he endorses Clinton and fights for her. Every smear they use against Clinton supporters will apply to Sanders himself, and they will say some very nasty things. The Sanders group, for example, should pivot to posting his pro-Clinton rallies, but they won't do that. They'll go radio silent.
In real life us Sanders supporters will support Clinton without blinking an eye.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Cha
(309,699 posts)And, Mahalo.. I appreciate it very much!