Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumClinton Voters Like Obama More Than Sanders Supporters Do
Nate Silver's site has some good polling on this important difference between Sanders and Clinton supporter. I admit that I think that President Obama has been an outstanding POTUS and that is one reason why I am supporting Hillary Clinton http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/voters-who-like-obama-like-clinton/
But notice the Obama feeling thermometer. Even back in the aftermath of Obamas 2012 victory, those who would become Clinton supporters in 2016 rated Obama at 0.82 on the 0-1 scale, as opposed to just 0.72 for those who would become Sanders supporters. That difference remains sizable even when looking only at non-black respondents. In recent debates with Sanders, Clintons embrace of Obama has been striking. But more than a tactical play for black voters, that embrace may reflect deeper differences in the two candidates bases of support.
And its not just about Obama. As the tables final line shows, Sanders voters were markedly more likely to agree that at present, I feel very critical of our political system, scoring 0.66 on a scale from 0 (strongly disagree) to 1 (strongly agree). Sanders backers are notably more disaffected, a fact which might explain their reluctance to back a longtime insider like Clinton.
It is always tempting to see the current campaign in light of past ones, especially when one of the same candidates is on the ballot. But the divisions between Clinton and Sanders are not simply a reflection of those between Clinton and Obama eight years ago, with Sanders stepping into the role of Obama. Voters orientation toward the political establishment in this case, Clinton and Obama is an issue that wasnt present in 2008. And while Edwards has left the political stage, the appeal of his economic populism lives on.
Sanders supporters and Clinton supporters have very different viewpoints on President Obama.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,956 posts)Some of the shrillest Obama critics on DU are avid Sanders supporters.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)They hated Obama, they hated the Democratic party, they hated any politician that didn't meet their purity test, and they turned all that hate on to Hillary.
sheshe2
(83,751 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)You get to bash all three of the most successful, prominent Democrats of the last 25 years.
Issue after issue - trade, campaign finance, guns, taxes, crime, Wall Street, healthcare, race relations - you name it, "Democrats" have failed!
Which is a constant reminder - DINO.
salinsky
(1,065 posts)... I don't think the Bernie supporters have the maturity to recognize the political headwinds Obama has faced for nearly eight years.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Thank you.
mcar
(42,307 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,233 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)The thing that really annoyed me about Sanders' complaints and then call to primary President Obama, is that he, as a Senator and ex-U.S. Rep, KNEW that Republicans had acted with unprecedented malice toward this president from the get-go. He was there. And that most of the issues he's now campaigning on that wasn't able to get done, is based on that unprecedented Republican obstructionism, but he's making it sound as if Democrats and President Obama is to blame, not Republicans.
That's why I can't support Bernie in the primaries.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)with similar values on most things but the main differences were:
HRC group is a lil more moderate and they like Obama more but both groups do like Obama.
Sander's supporters are stronger into LGBT rights and they are as a group more critical/negative towards government.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)The feeling is mutual.
Hekate
(90,674 posts)Cha
(297,192 posts)Mahalo Gothmog.
I plead the fifth. Lol~
Check your inbox, she!
otohara
(24,135 posts)to angry electorate.
Isn't Sanders also a longtime insider?
Cha
(297,192 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)feel the Bern.
In fact, most Democrats polled aren't angry. They're actually content with the progress this president has made, despite unprecedented and coordinated Republican obstructionism.
Setsuna1972
(332 posts)Right on target, alotnof them express total disdain for President Obama
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)The vast majority of current Bernie supporters have a history on DU of dissing President Obama, and nitpicking everything he's ever done - even the PPACA. Their posts give a strong impression of disliking him - for whatever reasons.
On the other hand, they're blind to the monumental mistakes Bernie has made that have had national implications.
So I agree with 538.
UtahLib
(3,179 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)among the many problems with voters over 50, women voters, minority voters...and no the under 25 are going on spring break and he'll lose too, lol