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Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 06:03 PM Mar 2016


OMG I think I was right a lil (this morning) ab MI/Dems and Kasich!?


"To any Michigan Hillary supporters who are crossing over to vote for Kasich as the anti-Trump because they assume she has it in the bag on the Dem side:

1. If enough of you do so, she *won't* have it in the bag.

2. Remember, MI is proportional, so even if she still wins, the margin of the win makes a difference as well.

3. Be careful what you wish for. Remember that Kasich would likely be much tougher in the general than Trump.

I'm not saying you shouldn't do it anyway, just keep all of that in mind if you do so.

Note also that I'm not saying this as a slam on Bernie; if he wins the state and/or the nomination, that's fine with me and I'll support him 100%; I just want people to make sure to think through the ramifications before doing the "vote strategically" thing."

"daveweigelVerified account
I just keep meeting Dems in MI who say Hillary has the primary locked, so they cast anti-Trump votes for Kasich."

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Never-Piss-in-Someone-Else-s-Pool (Original Post) Her Sister Mar 2016 OP
That may be part of the story, BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #1
you are right! Her Sister Mar 2016 #2
I think that Kasich hoped for even BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #4
Is the situation that Cruz is likely to be the nominee if Trump isnt and people like you Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #3
crossover Her Sister Mar 2016 #5
I think it would be easier to beat Trump than Cruz. yardwork Mar 2016 #6

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
2. you are right!
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 06:11 PM
Mar 2016

this morning was surprised that Kasich did so well as compared to how he did in other States. He almost tied 2nd place with Cruz. Someone reminded me that he is from neighbor State of Ohio, so there is that.


(15,421 posts)
4. I think that Kasich hoped for even
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 06:28 PM
Mar 2016

more of a boost so that he could lead into Ohio with some visible momentum.

But I think that it is very safe to say that, however he does in Ohio, he still will not finish well overall. In one sense, that's good. He may be the least insane of the bunch and, as such, more palatable to the GOPer PTB. Some think that he would, in fact, have been the most difficult Republican to beat as such.

But his views are still VERY RW, IMO. Given the damage ANY GOPer could do in the WH, I will be glad to see his candidacy bite the dust, as it likely will fairly soon after next Tuesday. Then we'll see which of the crazies we are left with, but it's more likely than not going to be Trump and Cruz.

Much as I detest Trump for ... everything, it is Cruz that I find to be the most physically repellent. The Donald is a caricature of a human being. Cruz embodies malevolence and the aura literally trails behind him.

One bright thing: those Republicans I know who are sane have said that while they may not be able to bring themselves actually to vote for the Dem candidate, they absolutely cannot vote for either Trump or Cruz. If they actually carry through with what they say now, it's almost as good as a vote FOR.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
3. Is the situation that Cruz is likely to be the nominee if Trump isnt and people like you
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 06:22 PM
Mar 2016

want to run against Cruz, not Trump?

By people like you I just mean any liberal or Democrat.

I havent paid attention to the polls as closely as others.

My idea is that it is easier to beat Cruz than Trump in the GE no matter which candidate is on the Democratic side, is that your thought too?


Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
5. crossover
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 06:40 PM
Mar 2016

FiveThirtyEightVerified account ?@FiveThirtyEight

" 7% of Michigan GOP primary voters were Democrats; 3% of voters in the Michigan Democratic primary were Republicans. http://53eig.ht/1R5eKVk "


(62,427 posts)
6. I think it would be easier to beat Trump than Cruz.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 09:11 PM
Mar 2016

Cruz would get the evangelical vote, and possibly a lot of Catholics, and some Latinos. Trump will get none of those.

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