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HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 06:54 AM Mar 2016

5:45 am est here at DU ....

And not a single POSITIVE article or link for the Democratic party's LEADING candidate on Home page. The candidate with the most votes, most delegates, most endorsements, most super delegates, most editorial endorsements.....and nothing good to be said at DU's front door.

I've been a reader for years, only recently started posting. For the life of me, I don't understand what this site's about any more.

It reads more and more like the anti-democratic underground to me...



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5:45 am est here at DU .... (Original Post) HillareeeHillaraah Mar 2016 OP
Yep, you guessed it.. I left that section of du months ago. Cha Mar 2016 #1
It makes me think of that Numa Numa song. Chichiri Mar 2016 #2
I exhaled deeply when I found this group... HillareeeHillaraah Mar 2016 #3
We are unabashedly her cheering section.. very much want her to succeed! Cha Mar 2016 #5
Following up HillareeeHillaraah Mar 2016 #9
Oh yes, I read that.. thank you! oh boy.. smh Cha Mar 2016 #10
This bothers me greatly, Cha Stuckinthebush Mar 2016 #6
Ah, yes.. a Markos.. a kos if you will.. Cha Mar 2016 #8
Not irreversible Stuckinthebush Mar 2016 #13
The real Hillary will Win! Cha Mar 2016 #15
They live in another world "over there" and talk of another Hillary pandr32 Mar 2016 #4
Very Republican of them Stuckinthebush Mar 2016 #7
It hasn't escaped my notice for sure. pandr32 Mar 2016 #22
It's not anyone's imagination, that's for certain. NurseJackie Mar 2016 #26
I get that the primary stage is all about debating each other HillareeeHillaraah Mar 2016 #11
I agree with you pandr32 Mar 2016 #21
Cha mentioned other websites... Her Sister Mar 2016 #12
Thanks for the link HillareeeHillaraah Mar 2016 #14
Thanks also for the link! Satch59 Mar 2016 #18
A great read! pandr32 Mar 2016 #23
There's a silver lining!!!! GusBob Mar 2016 #16
Saw that HillareeeHillaraah Mar 2016 #19
I wish somene would suggest that a certain other politician betsuni Mar 2016 #25
It is a refuge for HRC supporters Her Sister Mar 2016 #17
I don't know about that... HillareeeHillaraah Mar 2016 #28
Unfortunately it's been that way for months. BS followers, trolls and RW operatives Fla Dem Mar 2016 #20
LET'S HEAR IT FOR DU! William769 Mar 2016 #24
DU has always had a large undemocratic block. book_worm Mar 2016 #27

Cha

(297,688 posts)
1. Yep, you guessed it.. I left that section of du months ago.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:16 AM
Mar 2016

I couldn't care less what they have to say about anything.

You have reminded us though.. of what a newcomer must think who supports Hillary and was looking for a democratic site.

That's why other awesome Hillary sites have sprung up, where there's no Hillary hate and you don't get censored for supporting her and speaking out against BS with his history of record.

Glad you found our group, HillareeeHillaraah. Cute name!

 

HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
3. I exhaled deeply when I found this group...
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 08:12 AM
Mar 2016

Part cheering section part dig deeper beyond the sound bites. It's become a bit of an obsession (as you may have deduced from my 5:45 am lament).

I wonder if the home page - what I think of as the front door - is it composed entirely by algorythms of who's clicking on what? Are there no editors? I've read the Skinner posts that speak of what's not working and how it will change but I hope there's more than just the jurying imbalances that are addressed.

I know it's easiest to just ignore it, but for awhile, I was one of those people who didn't bother to go past the home page and stopped reading the site altogether because of the imbalance in tone once landing there. Just my two cents...

((The name I picked, btw, is a play on an old hiking song written for the accordion ( because what goes better with hiking than accordions ) called the Happy Wanderer - aka Valdere Valdera. If you know the tune, I apologize if it's now stuck in your head for a few hours ))


Cha

(297,688 posts)
5. We are unabashedly her cheering section.. very much want her to succeed!
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 08:44 AM
Mar 2016

We do try to keep a positive tone here.. if anyone wants "negative"... they know where to find it. lol

How did you find our group?.. must have been fate because coming in the front door like you said and all you see is anti Hillary this anti Hillary that.. would be enough for me to slam the door shut before going in.

I wonder if there's anything new on this that I haven't seen.. ? >>>>>>> Do you have a link or two?

"I've read the Skinner posts that speak of what's not working and how it will change but I hope there's more than just the jurying imbalances that are addressed."

I have heard the song long ago but it came rushing back when I saw your "name".. quite clever.



 

HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
9. Following up
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:17 AM
Mar 2016

As to Skinner's word, I read his "they think I've swift boated Bernie" entry which is available to read in his journal, where he begins to address something's out of whack with the jurying system.

And I read this post of his responding to the throwing of the AA vote under the bus during the southern primaries. Again, he addresses changes. But you've probably read both...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12599671#post1

I found this group when I poked around trying to decode what GD-P meant. ((That's a scary place for Hillareans)), found this and out loud said, ooooooh, HERE they are!

Cha

(297,688 posts)
10. Oh yes, I read that.. thank you! oh boy.. smh
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:33 AM
Mar 2016

gdp yes, they so scary. lol rofl

Yeah, nobody can say what they think about sanders or they hide us.. 3 hides that I know of in our group tonight for speaking about BS in the debate.

I don't think it would be "partisan" to whip a fair system into play ASAP. fair's fair.

Glad you showed up, Hillareee!

Stuckinthebush

(10,847 posts)
6. This bothers me greatly, Cha
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 08:53 AM
Mar 2016

I love DU. It has been part of my daily routine for 15 years. I hate seeing it decline. I really wish Skinner would pull a Markos and take care of the foolishness sooner rather than later.

Cha

(297,688 posts)
8. Ah, yes.. a Markos.. a kos if you will..
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:11 AM
Mar 2016
I've been here almost as long as you, Stuck.. I've seen the decline for a long time.. this was inevitable with a jury system where the majority rules and they don't have a TOS on which to base the censoring.. they hide on a whim because they don't like what you have to say. Nothing in the post but facts but they hide because they can.

Or a hideous violence against a woman OP stays because it's against Hillary.

It was inevitable but not irreversible.

Stuckinthebush

(10,847 posts)
13. Not irreversible
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:49 AM
Mar 2016

True, true.

The cost may be very high, however.


Well... Let's lament the present but cheer for the future. Hillary will win this and DU will be a better place very soon!

Hill Yes!

pandr32

(11,615 posts)
4. They live in another world "over there" and talk of another Hillary
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 08:41 AM
Mar 2016

The one they talk about is devious and desperate--not to mention woefully inadequate to take on progressive issues. In one post I saw a minute or so ago, under a Bloomberg article about the debate, they seemed incredulous that "she didn't have a prepared answer" regarding her possible indictment (many comments about this) and that she apparently lives in a bubble along with her "hacks and sycophants" who do not properly prepare her or plug her into the real world--probably for fearing her wrath. Ugggghhhhh.

Of course that Hillary is a composite of all the deliberate media portrayals and Republican smears of her over the years blown up through the bluster of the Sanders campaign, a campaign that boils everything down to ingroup/outgroup status. Sanders is the good guy, so everyone else is bad except for Elizabeth Warren. Sanders is right, everyone else is wrong, Sanders is honest, everyone else isn't, Sanders is authentic, everyone else isn't, Sanders is the only one who cares about minorities and women, everyone else is an opportunist, Sanders single-handedly fights the evil in Congress, etc.

Sanders is a champion and only a moron would support the she-devil Hillary "out there." This is what we are all up against.

So glad you found us! We all support the real Hillary Clinton.

Stuckinthebush

(10,847 posts)
7. Very Republican of them
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 08:55 AM
Mar 2016

Honestly, there seems to be a similarity in the two - Sanders supporters on DU and Republicans.

 

HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
11. I get that the primary stage is all about debating each other
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:44 AM
Mar 2016

Over whose candidate would make a better president. But there's no debate going on out there. It's a completely one sided display. There is almost ZERO balance being presented to any undecideds - newbies or not - during most days, of late.

I love the cheering and comradery that happens in this group, but to a certain extent we're just "preaching to the choir", y'know?

I wish this site offered a more balanced debate anywhere on that Home page. Just a shot at reaching the undecideds...

pandr32

(11,615 posts)
21. I agree with you
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:02 PM
Mar 2016

It does seem as though we are "preaching to the choir" here, but it is because of the authoritarianism that has taken over the main pages here, and sadly many other comment sections elsewhere, too. You cannot publicly criticize Bernie Sanders--on issues, on his record, on anything. As the result undecideds seem to be getting picked up by Sanders.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
12. Cha mentioned other websites...
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:45 AM
Mar 2016

I am really enjoying the articles and comments in the peoples view website! I'd recommend for people looking for a refuge. Example ~ here about their rules:


Specifically, while all are welcome to join this community and express themselves, respect is important. Especially respect for the viewpoints presented on the main posts, and those who write them. Anyone is free to disagree and make their case, however, disrespect in disagreements is not tolerated. We also recognize the tough road for this country, and are immensely proud of and loyal to President Barack Obama. If you come to the comment section and start screaming at posters or peaceful discussions, or start throwing pejoratives at the President or others trying to discuss an issue, you will be banned, with or without warning. Yes, this blog is a safe haven for recognizing progress, pragmatism, and civil debate. Don't try my patience on that; you won't like the results.

In other words, if you think the Internet is your place to be a bratty six-year old, you won't like it here. Conduct yourself as an adult, and make your comments as if you were talking face to face with the person you were talking to in a polite manner, and you are welcome here.

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/rules/

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
18. Thanks also for the link!
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:14 AM
Mar 2016

Pretty scathing front page article there:

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/3/9/miami-demdebate-bernies-socialism-not-so-democratic

I think this issue will have traction and maybe some more vetting will take place? Hillary seemed to know all about this video and even expanded on it. Most of the comments are positive, some BS nasty ones but someone made the comment that it won't change any BS diehards and compared them to Trump supporters and that is frightening...

pandr32

(11,615 posts)
23. A great read!
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:34 PM
Mar 2016

I think what is important to note is that Sander seems to think that civil liberties are expendable as long as people have healthcare and education. This is not democratic socialism at all. This is what Republicans would scare the pants off their voters with in the GE if Sanders were to win the nomination--they would turn out in force, too.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
16. There's a silver lining!!!!
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:05 AM
Mar 2016

If you are so inclined (yet you don't strike me as this kind of person)

It is now acceptable to tell a female politician to " kindly go (redacted obscenity) yourself with a brick" because of the way she laughs!

It has been approved by jury decision

Yay for mature behavior!

betsuni

(25,629 posts)
25. I wish somene would suggest that a certain other politician
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:40 PM
Mar 2016

go have intimate relations with a brick, just to see what happens. Oh, who am I kidding, I know what would happen.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
17. It is a refuge for HRC supporters
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:09 AM
Mar 2016

no one blocks you for saying what you really think... Find that refreshing.

 

HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
28. I don't know about that...
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 01:29 PM
Mar 2016

I've seen quite a few posts here that got crock-blocked (as in: you read their reasons for the hide and think 'what a crock of sh*t') - here in the HRC refuge!

Their stealth tactics are controlling the conversation. Must we cede all control of that process to them entirely? Especially if many aren't even democrats?

Gotta be a better way...

Fla Dem

(23,753 posts)
20. Unfortunately it's been that way for months. BS followers, trolls and RW operatives
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:25 AM
Mar 2016

have taken over DU. Many, and there are many HRC supporters have given up because as soon as they post something positive about HRC in GDP it's slammed, mocked, lied about and they are personally slandered. The Hillary forum is the only safe place for her supporters. As soon as a BS post is made the BS supporters are out in force to recommend and add pithy comments to move the post to the front page.

I have no doubt many of those "Bernie fans" are RW operatives. They were here during the 2008 primaries and some have stuck around to disparage Pres Obama for the last 8 years and many more have joined their ranks. There is no question BS has struck a chord with a segment of society. I believe many of them fervently think he is the Wizard of Oz. But there is also a large number of RW infiltrators who want Bernie to be the nominee because they feel they have a better chance of beating him in the general election.





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