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Why is this group not coming alive? Hillary Supporters Reconstitute! (Original Post) ellisonz Dec 2011 OP
She is one hell of a good SOS isn't she? Autumn Dec 2011 #1
I'm an Obama guy to the core... ellisonz Dec 2011 #3
If she is Obama's VP candidate, he wins hands down, don't you think? zonkers Dec 2011 #2
I'll wait until I see some actual indication that Biden is off the ticket. ellisonz Dec 2011 #4
If she wants to run, I doubt Biden would stand in the way of history. MADem Mar 2013 #24
I caucused for her in Iowa! Armin-A Dec 2011 #5
I don't care for DU3 Beacool Dec 2011 #6
Hugs appreciated. ellisonz Dec 2011 #7
I don't know. Beacool Dec 2011 #10
It's not a particularly Obama/Democrats friendly board either... ellisonz Dec 2011 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author PragmaticLiberal Jan 2012 #18
There are NO mods here! None! MADem Mar 2013 #25
Thanks for the information. Beacool Mar 2013 #29
I didn't realize this thread was a zillion years old when I replied to you! MADem Mar 2013 #30
If she runs I'll be there. Beacool Mar 2013 #32
I still love her very much juajen Dec 2011 #8
No comment. ellisonz Dec 2011 #9
New Poster Checking In NCTraveler Dec 2011 #12
Still a Hillary admirer. northoftheborder Dec 2011 #13
This group has been here since probably 2007. ellisonz Dec 2011 #14
Hillary would have done a better job. Beacool Dec 2011 #15
Glad they (sort of) allow differing views around here. I would not have come back if they didn't. northoftheborder Dec 2011 #16
I'm a Republican but In_The_Back Jan 2012 #17
I'm hoping that she changes her mind about 2016. Beacool Feb 2012 #19
She doesn't have to change her mind. She never made a Sherman Statement! MADem Mar 2013 #23
Well, she still hasn't said yes (it's way too soon). Beacool Mar 2013 #28
I agree. I will throw a pile of money at her if she runs. MADem Mar 2013 #31
Me too, I think that she would be fantastic. Beacool Mar 2013 #33
In_The_Back, you don't sound insane enough to be a republican Skittles Mar 2013 #27
I lost my post somewhere. You left me out, but that's ok. juajen Jan 2013 #20
I found you! Hillary2016 Feb 2013 #21
I just now realized that you kicked a Very Old Thread.... nt MADem Mar 2013 #26
She'll be a fine President if I get my way....! nt MADem Mar 2013 #22

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
3. I'm an Obama guy to the core...
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 05:24 PM
Dec 2011

...and I'd give her a B+

I think she's done something very rare in politics today in setting aside her differences and productively working with her former political opponent for the good of the country. I've got my gripes, but I'm glad to have her as part of the administration. I Hillary for that!

I hope they didn't all leave. In a way, this sort of system is kinda what many in GDP always wanted - an easy to access safe-haven.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
4. I'll wait until I see some actual indication that Biden is off the ticket.
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 05:26 PM
Dec 2011

Hillary has said she's spent most of her adult life in politics and that she's looking forward to retirement. I take that to mean working with Bill on humanitarian issues more directly.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
24. If she wants to run, I doubt Biden would stand in the way of history.
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 02:42 AM
Mar 2013

He always wanted to be SECSTATE, actually. He can be a bit chatty, but that can sometimes work well in that gig. Albright used conversational gambits to good effect.

Clinton has never made a Sherman statement on another Presidential run, so until she does, it's not untoward to assume she just might.

Armin-A

(367 posts)
5. I caucused for her in Iowa!
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 07:17 AM
Dec 2011

However, Obama won our area. Had a pretty good run though... had a few swing over from others

Beacool

(30,253 posts)
6. I don't care for DU3
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 02:40 PM
Dec 2011

Last edited Sun Feb 12, 2012, 07:15 PM - Edit history (1)

I'll lurk and post on occasion, but I don't see myself participating at the level I did on DU2. Too much moderation and too much censorship.

Besides, there are other sites that are much more Clinton friendly than this one.

Hugs to all of you!!!!

Bea

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
7. Hugs appreciated.
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 04:53 PM
Dec 2011

I'll make sure they get passed out.

Do you know if the other regular Clinton posters are jumping ship too? I worry this group is going to get the chop and then we'll have even less of a range of opinion.

Aloha!

Beacool

(30,253 posts)
10. I don't know.
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 12:54 AM
Dec 2011

I think that most Hillary supporters have gone to greener pastures. This is not a Clinton friendly board.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
11. It's not a particularly Obama/Democrats friendly board either...
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 12:56 AM
Dec 2011


I thrive on disagreement - it's like rhetorical tennis practice.

Response to Beacool (Reply #10)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
25. There are NO mods here! None!
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 02:46 AM
Mar 2013

It's a self-service facility....there are juries, not mods. Juries can sometimes be capricious, but no more so than mods, who would nuke a reasonable post or three because they wanted to get rid of a subthread with some troublesome stuff in it.

All "hosts" can do is lock an off-topic OP. They can't "rule" on if a thread is good/bad/indifferent, only if it meets the SOP for the forum in which it is posted. Hosts have very little power, and if they try to assume it, it won't end well for them. Most know that already, those that don't, learn it quick enough.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
30. I didn't realize this thread was a zillion years old when I replied to you!
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 02:27 PM
Mar 2013

It got kicked!

Nice to "see" you about! HRC 16!

juajen

(8,515 posts)
8. I still love her very much
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 03:52 AM
Dec 2011

Yes, she is busy being SOS, but that doesn't mean she isn't President in our hearts. There will never be another like her. America missed it's very best choice for the first female president. Remember all the people who said a female candidate would be so common, but a black President would be very rare. Seems to me its just the opposite. Even the republicans had a candidate if he hadn't been so stupid. Ah well. I felt it was always bias against women, not support for the first black president, at least in a lot of hearts and minds.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
12. New Poster Checking In
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 01:42 PM
Dec 2011

Huge Hillary supporter. I have read for a long time but never signed up. Looking forward to being a part of the discussion.

northoftheborder

(7,575 posts)
13. Still a Hillary admirer.
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 11:17 PM
Dec 2011

But I believe her when she says she wants a life out of politics. Sometimes she looks so weary in her role as Sec. of State; it is really a grueling job. She would have made a stunning president.

This group is a refuge. You cannot say anything very complimentary about HRC, or suggest she run for something else, or talk about what might have been, or, the worst thing you can do out on the Groups at DU is talk about the 2008 primary, without the "PUMA" label being thrown on you. "Sour grapes," "loser", and all that, are why I left DU for a couple of years. I don't know how long this group has been here.

There is no use replaying the 2008 primary, I know, but, I know what I know and will never forget the skulduggery and unethical goings on in the primary caucuses and primary battles - saw it and heard about it with my own eyes and ears. I hope someday Hillary will write a book about her run for president. It would be very interesting.

I was proud that the US could put it's racist history aside and elect a president with black ancestry. I hoped for the best when he took office, but wasn't very surprised at Obama's lack of progressiveness, or decisiveness. He was handed a terrible portfolio to try to untangle, and I don't know if anyone could have done much better, even Hillary. I know she would have known who her enemies were, very well, and known better than to try to conciliate with people who hated her very existence. She is popular around the world, and she and Bill have enormous numbers of friends here and abroad. It seems that our present president has not made efforts to befriend even members of his own party, and particularly not tried to keep the friends he had, the minorities, the youth, and the progressive and labor groups. He seems to have kept distant from his own supporters. I don't understand it.

Beacool

(30,253 posts)
15. Hillary would have done a better job.
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 01:12 PM
Dec 2011

Not because their politics were much different, but because she knew how to fight the Republicans. She also had been in the senate for more than one term and had formed alliances that would have been useful in negotiating with the other side.

Obama had barely been in the senate half of his first term before he decided that he was ready to be president. I didn't think then or now that he was ready to handle the job better than Hillary.

Frankly, I can't stand the sight of him and it's no secret around here how I feel. Ditto for the party leadership and all the crap they pulled to ensure that he was the nominee.

I am now an Independent and I'm indifferent about either party.

A pox on their heads!!!

In_The_Back

(3 posts)
17. I'm a Republican but
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 12:30 PM
Jan 2012

I would GLADLY vote for Hillary if she ran again. I switched over for Obama because McCain and especially Palin freaked the sh*t out of me, and now Obama does. If she runs in 2016 she'll win, of course she'll be up against Christie so it'll be one hell of a showdown.

Beacool

(30,253 posts)
19. I'm hoping that she changes her mind about 2016.
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 02:17 PM
Feb 2012

We'll see how she feels after she has some time to rest.

Keeping my fingers and toes crossed........

MADem

(135,425 posts)
23. She doesn't have to change her mind. She never made a Sherman Statement!
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 02:37 AM
Mar 2013

She said the exact same thing she said when she was dodging questions about her Senate run.

"I have no plans" is not the same as "Hell no, if nominated I will not run, if elected I will not serve."


"I have no plans" means "Ask me later."

Beacool

(30,253 posts)
28. Well, she still hasn't said yes (it's way too soon).
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 02:03 PM
Mar 2013

I think that she'll wait until after the 2014 elections. I'm hoping that the answer is yes. She would be a great president.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
31. I agree. I will throw a pile of money at her if she runs.
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 02:29 PM
Mar 2013

And I'm not rich, but I know how to "bundle!"

Skittles

(153,236 posts)
27. In_The_Back, you don't sound insane enough to be a republican
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 03:27 AM
Mar 2013

admit your party left you long ago and make the switch

juajen

(8,515 posts)
20. I lost my post somewhere. You left me out, but that's ok.
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 03:06 AM
Jan 2013

I am with her no matter what she decides to do. Supreme Court Justice, President or grandmother or noted speaker. Whatever she wants to do, this great lady has my support. I am honored to have grown up in her time. I am just a few years older than she. My what an outstanding female hero for women to look up to for years to come. Thank you, Hillary Rodham Clinton, for being an inspiration to millions. If you want to go pick daisies, do it. You have earned the right to be and do whatever you want. Rest assured that no one will ever eclipse or equal you.

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