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leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:04 AM Mar 2016

Why We Support Hillary Clinton (Posted to the Hillary Group)

We believe in Planned Parenthood and reproductive rights for all women. We trust Hillary to protect those rights so that in the event either one of our grand daughters ever need to terminate a pregnancy, they may do so without a coat hanger in a back alley.

We believe in a strong work ethic. We worked our way through college back when minimum wage was 90 cents an hour and tuition was 1200 a year not counting books and fees. Our children worked their way though with a little help from us and we expect the same for our grand daughters. I am all for making college more affordable and capping the interest rate on student loans, however, should either one of our grand daughters take out loans, we expect them to pay those back in good faith. If it takes them six years instead of four years to graduate then so be it. We don't believe that in our late 60's and early 70's that we are responsible for others' college tuition.

We believe in Social Security and have worked for over 50 years to be able to retire and draw that comfortably. We know that Hillary will never allow the privatization of Social Security. It will be there for us until we shed our skins so that our children can take care of their own families and not have to worry about us.

We love our current health insurance. Yes, it may cost us a pretty penny but in the last 15 years of cancer treatments, screenings, surgery, medicine, we have not laid out of pocket more than about $600.00. We never pay for usual/common medicines or antibiotics since those are covered by our insurance. One of us is on Medicare and I can assure you that they have never laid out one penny for anything so no, we do not want a "medicare for all" insurance plan. We do not want Medicare deciding whether or not I should be able to get that hip replaced. That should be between myself, the doctor and the insurance I pay for. Those who want that are welcome pay for it but we want our insurance company to stay in business so we can continue to do business with them.

We believe in the stock market because one of us has a pension all tied up in Wall Street and yes we have a small 401K. That is our retirement because quite frankly, Social Security is just not enough. We expect Hillary to keep her hands off of my State Teachers Retirement and our 401K because after all, it is our money. We put it there and we will damn sure get it back when we are ready for it. We trust Hillary to leave our retirement money alone.

We believe in free and fair trade. We agree that trade agreements need to be redefined, reworked, and maybe a few done away with. We trust Hillary to do this to the best of her abilities.

We believe that Black Lives Matter because one of our grand daughters is Black and her life damn sure matters to us. Miss Ebony wants to study fashion design and business in college then move to New York City to make her way in that world. We don't want that door to be slammed in her face because her skin is not white. We don't want her to be driving somewhere, be pulled over and die in a jail cell simply because she is Black. We trust Hillary to work hard within the criminal justice system to fix some very broken things. We know that Hillary can not change hearts and minds, no one can, but there are things that can be done within the current system.

We believe in gay and lesbian rights and that right to love and marry who you choose. We trust Hillary to protect those rights.

We believe in equal pay for women and that women have a right to make as much money as they want to whether they are giving speeches to banks or working at the local strip club. Powerful and well paid women make a powerful and productive country.

We believe that all people of all races, except for criminals and terrorists have a right to live productively and peacefully in America. We trust Hillary to work as hard as possible to reform immigration policies.

We believe in protecting our country from those who want to hurt us both outside and inside the borders. We do not believe in unnecessary wars but we do believe in a reasonably strong military. We trust her to protect America and American interests.

We have, for over 50 years, always paid our taxes on time and without regret. We believe that paying taxes is patriotic but we do not believe that we should pay more than our fair share, especially in retirement. We trust that if Hillary
raises taxes, it will be on those making lots of money and not on the middle class.

We know that Hillary is not perfect. We know that she is liberal/progressive in some areas and more moderate in others. So are we. No one is perfect and no one gets everything they want. We know that Hillary has changed, evolved and grown over the years.
So have we. We want a president who evolves and compromises, not a president who is constantly angry and stagnant.

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Why We Support Hillary Clinton (Posted to the Hillary Group) (Original Post) leftofcool Mar 2016 OP
I am proud to stand with you and Hillary. BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #1
I think she's MUCH SMARTER and BETTER PREPARED than any candidate out there. I also prefer ... NurseJackie Mar 2016 #2
Yes! He sweats anger IMO nt fun n serious Mar 2016 #5
"We know that Hillary is not perfect" Tell me of any candidate that is perfect and I will... liberal N proud Mar 2016 #3
I did not even think about our 401k's being in jeopardy in Bernie's hands. fun n serious Mar 2016 #4
You know one thing damn unquestionably certain about Hillary Clinton? yallerdawg Mar 2016 #6
We believe in the United States of America! Iliyah Mar 2016 #7
Great OP! radical noodle Mar 2016 #8
Hillary 2016 Iamaartist Mar 2016 #9
K&R UtahLib Mar 2016 #10
What a beautiful OP, I share your thoughts completely. There are Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #11
Terrific OP. You said quite a lot for me in this thread. Thanks still_one Mar 2016 #12
I just served on a jury for this JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Amimnoch Mar 2016 #14
Bunk alerk - and 7-0 Leave it JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #16
Well, that's a nice surprise. Amimnoch Mar 2016 #17
Thanks for this post. Blue Idaho Mar 2016 #19
Juror #4 should be alerted on for ... NurseJackie Mar 2016 #26
I alerted on the entire thing JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #27
What a wonderful statement! katmille Mar 2016 #15
Thank you for the refreshing dose Blue Idaho Mar 2016 #18
I agree with most of those, some not Ratty Mar 2016 #20
I stand with Hillary Gothmog Mar 2016 #21
I will stand with Hillary, murielm99 Mar 2016 #22
K&R...and apparently you are now argued with from "afar" ... pkdu Mar 2016 #23
Frustrating ... but all rather amusing at the same time. NurseJackie Mar 2016 #25
That is why I have GDPee on trash as well as that group leftofcool Mar 2016 #28
Gotta love that Blue Idaho Mar 2016 #29
Peoples Front of Judea ! pkdu Mar 2016 #35
K & R Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #24
Ugh. truebluegreen Mar 2016 #30
This is the Hillary group. Delete your post! leftofcool Mar 2016 #32
So sorry; my bad. truebluegreen Mar 2016 #33
You have the whole rest of the board for your "Ughs" and you have to come into Cha Mar 2016 #38
K&R mcar Mar 2016 #31
K&R! DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #34
Another K&R NastyRiffraff Mar 2016 #36
Great post. Very positive. Thank you. K & R nt Persondem Mar 2016 #37

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
2. I think she's MUCH SMARTER and BETTER PREPARED than any candidate out there. I also prefer ...
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:07 AM
Mar 2016

... her temperament compared to ANY candidate that's running.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
3. "We know that Hillary is not perfect" Tell me of any candidate that is perfect and I will...
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:08 AM
Mar 2016

call you a liar.

People have used every excuse the book to dislike Hillary claiming she is dishonest and they can't trust her and other unfounded things.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
4. I did not even think about our 401k's being in jeopardy in Bernie's hands.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:11 AM
Mar 2016

Scary thought! Thank you for such a lovely OP

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
6. You know one thing damn unquestionably certain about Hillary Clinton?
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:22 AM
Mar 2016
She won't back down from a fight!

That's who I want on my side!

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
7. We believe in the United States of America!
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:24 AM
Mar 2016

We believe in equality for all including, and not limited to economics, education, voting rights, women rights, civil rights, and the freedom of voice. We believe in democracy for all. Helping our fellow Americans. We believe in peace here and around the world and the freedom of religion. This is why I will be voting for HRC!

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
8. Great OP!
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:50 AM
Mar 2016

I support her for all those reasons and because she stands with teachers. My husband is a retired teacher and my daughter is a special ed teacher. I have rarely said negative things about President Obama, but I think Arne Duncan was the worst cabinet member he had, a terrible choice. He hurt education, hard working teachers and children more than anyone could ever know. I trust Hillary to listen to teachers.


Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
11. What a beautiful OP, I share your thoughts completely. There are
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 12:42 PM
Mar 2016

Many of the issues you named which are near and dear to my heart. I share your thoughts on Medicare for all, I have Medicare but I not for my Medigap policy I would be in sure straights. I soul like to see ACA improved and to get close to national health insurance but even the it will not be free. There is a premium for Part B and D, it is not free.

Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #13)

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
16. Bunk alerk - and 7-0 Leave it
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 01:31 PM
Mar 2016

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

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On Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:55 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Why We Support Hillary Clinton (Posted to the Hillary Group)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110770202

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

calling Bernie sanders "constantly angry and stagnant" is a personal attack. This needs to be deleted.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Mar 11, 2016, 12:07 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Aw geez, another one of these.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Other than an infomercial for HRC with rose colored glasses I say leave it.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I am a Bernie supporter. This is in the Hillary group. Let them wallow and squirm like worms in their own repugnant lies and smears for all to see.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Big Bernie supporter here, but I don't think "constantly angry and stagnant" is a personal attack against other members but a critique (however inaccurate) of a political opponent. Thus, it falls under "free speech," although I disagree with it.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: SHAME ON YOU!

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
19. Thanks for this post.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 01:44 PM
Mar 2016

If it weren't so tragic it would be laughable. A post that broadly outlines agreed upon Democratic ideals, supports on of two legitimate Presidental candidates and NEVER mentions her challenger gets alerted?

Maybe this place should be renamed BSUnderground - and the BS doesn't stand for Berne Sanders.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
26. Juror #4 should be alerted on for ...
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 03:04 PM
Mar 2016

... abusive comments. A correct vote but a beyond the pale and offensive insult.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
27. I alerted on the entire thing
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 03:17 PM
Mar 2016


Evidently - folks in this group are 'morons' -

“I do this real moron thing, and it's called thinking. And apparently I'm not a very good American because I like to form my own opinions.”
― George Carlin

God damn the HRC supporters for not toeing the line and making up their own minds!

katmille

(213 posts)
15. What a wonderful statement!
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 01:26 PM
Mar 2016

I agree totally. Or almost. I love Medicare, but I am fortunate enough to have supplemental insurance as well. And for one of my relatives, Medicare is all she has so she is grateful.
Perfection is not attainable, but striving for perfection is noble.
Go Hillary!

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
18. Thank you for the refreshing dose
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 01:37 PM
Mar 2016

of Democratic values. It's great to be reminded what we Democrats are really fighting for in this country. I watched all eleven hours of the congresses Bengazi grilling. I learned everything I needed to know about Sec. Clinton by watching her unflinching grace and strength under pressure.

Ratty

(2,100 posts)
20. I agree with most of those, some not
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 02:11 PM
Mar 2016

But still a beautifully written manifesto. I especially agree with the very last sentence. I also believe we need a Democrat in the White House who is canny in politics and knows how to play the game. Republicans have proved over the last eight years that they are the enemy and Hillary has more experience dealing with this than anyone on Earth. What other candidate could do a better job dealing with them? Her demeanor during the laughable Benghazi hearings was the epitome of presidential. Her experience as a very successful Secretary of State puts her miles above any other candidate.

We have been so inundated by the right with the suggestion that Hillary is unlikeable, untrustworthy, scandal-ridden, that some people, even here on DU, have bought into it. It sometimes takes a bit of mental discipline to ignore that insidious right wing rumor mongering and sit down for a moment and look at the facts. Those facts add up to Hillary for President. I'm with her.

pkdu

(3,977 posts)
23. K&R...and apparently you are now argued with from "afar" ...
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 02:24 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280143483

How they can read "Fear,fear,fear,fear" into yours baffles me...I read Hope,Trust and Fairness.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
25. Frustrating ... but all rather amusing at the same time.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 03:00 PM
Mar 2016

This will be over very soon, and the haters can gather around and support Hillary, or move on. Either one it's fine with me.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
28. That is why I have GDPee on trash as well as that group
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 03:56 PM
Mar 2016

A ton people on ignore and some select keywords trashed.

Cha

(297,253 posts)
38. You have the whole rest of the board for your "Ughs" and you have to come into
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 08:44 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary's Group and disrespect our space.

I'm saying "Ugh" to you.

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