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brooklynite

(94,679 posts)
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 06:15 PM Jun 2015

I've come to the conclusion that I made a mistake...

When Sanders announced, I suggested that the exuberance of his supporters might lead to a bit of trash-talking, and we should probably be understanding.

I'm now of the opinion that there's a lot of anti-Hillary ugliness that has gravitated to Sanders as a convenient vehicle. I will respond appropriately and factually to some of the junk that gets thrown out. I will also remember that there's a real world out there, and that what percolates on DU has little bearing on it.

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I've come to the conclusion that I made a mistake... (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2015 OP
I read the Bernie room even though I am banned. upaloopa Jun 2015 #1
You are better than me I trashed that Group. William769 Jun 2015 #4
So did I. And the Progressive & EWarren Group. misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #7
We are not all bad. madfloridian Jun 2015 #28
Yup. Wonder if Bernie's managers know of their shadow managers misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #5
Good lord, I mentioned that $3 grand wasn't what I thought of as grass roots, and you libdem4life Jun 2015 #2
Get ready to be alerted on constantly workinclasszero Jun 2015 #3
You are so right. William769 Jun 2015 #6
For instance good news today about Hillary's poll numbers workinclasszero Jun 2015 #10
It's the end game that count's William769 Jun 2015 #12
Yeah I can't wait for primaries. workinclasszero Jun 2015 #14
I hear you. okasha Jun 2015 #20
Just my opinion, but ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #8
You wouldn't. Agschmid Jun 2015 #22
Yes, it's the same old crowd Andy823 Jun 2015 #29
There seems to be a lot of unmanaged anger around. Koinos Jun 2015 #9
I found out something by a supporter trying to trash Hillary today and think I will keep it in Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #11
ALERT RECEIVED. William769 Jun 2015 #13
LOL nt DURHAM D Jun 2015 #17
Just saw it in my pm box. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #18
First it was Kucinich. Then Edwards. Then Warren. Now it's Sanders. NYC Liberal Jun 2015 #15
Add Nader to that group. nt DURHAM D Jun 2015 #16
I've said this before. okasha Jun 2015 #19
Nothing to do with Bernie Sanders, an outstanding Senator. onehandle Jun 2015 #21
The new pumas. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #24
I think there is also the green party/Democratic pRty dynamic going on on DU as well. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #23
kicking thread. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #25
I understand the frustration of Hillary supporters GusBob Jun 2015 #26
It was inevitable that the Hillary Haters were going to gravitate towards geek tragedy Jun 2015 #27

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
1. I read the Bernie room even though I am banned.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 06:18 PM
Jun 2015

They talk like they are running his campaign. They have run out of things to say about him so they make up stuff about Hillary as if it will help Bernie.

William769

(55,147 posts)
4. You are better than me I trashed that Group.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 06:24 PM
Jun 2015

They have absolutely nothing I want to read. I happen to like Senator Sanders as a person and welcomed him into the race (although I know his chances are slim to none), but if I need to see any news on Senator Sanders I will look elsewhere.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
7. So did I. And the Progressive & EWarren Group.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 06:30 PM
Jun 2015

Its all the same nasty posters belonging to all 3 groups anyway.
Cleaned up my DU page nicely.
Well worth it.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
5. Yup. Wonder if Bernie's managers know of their shadow managers
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 06:27 PM
Jun 2015

..here on DU. He doesn't seem the type to approve of what has been stated, in his good, kind name.

Oh well, its a very small bunch.
I have heard your rant & approve your message.
Good days await.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
2. Good lord, I mentioned that $3 grand wasn't what I thought of as grass roots, and you
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 06:21 PM
Jun 2015

accused me of wanting to run her campaign. If that's trash-talking, then it's going to be a bit rough going, I'll agree. (and that wasn't junk...it was on her own stationery)

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
3. Get ready to be alerted on constantly
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 06:21 PM
Jun 2015

And lose almost every time. The juries are packed with Bernie fans and they don't care about being fair.
Hillary is treated worse than the republicans on DU I'm very sad to say

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
10. For instance good news today about Hillary's poll numbers
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 06:38 PM
Jun 2015

and campaign kick off event have been under unrelenting attack all day long. The problem is we Hillary backers cannot really fight back. You will be alerted on and banned in a very short time if you do.
And this is democratic underground lol. Strike that..the Bernie Underground. It's sad that we are silenced here with no recourse.

William769

(55,147 posts)
12. It's the end game that count's
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 06:52 PM
Jun 2015

And trust me when I say I will be relentless in your face asshole (what comes around goes around).

Unfortunately getting to that point is going to suck.

Put it this way I am a Gay man that has waited my whole life for marriage equality (at one point it was only a dream of mine, then may years later it wasn't a dream anymore but something that might actually happen. Well that time is here now in my State something that was once only a dream & God willing it will be reality next month in all 50 States.

So yeah I can wait another year and a half. And yes it will be just a sweet as next month.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
14. Yeah I can't wait for primaries.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 07:06 PM
Jun 2015

A solid and diverse majority of democratic voters back Hillary. The primaries are going to prove that. And when Hillary is the official democratic canidate for president. ..

Yeah my alert button is going to be smoking lol

okasha

(11,573 posts)
20. I hear you.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 08:11 PM
Jun 2015

I never thought we'd have marriage equality in my lifetime. Or a woman President.

I've always thought of both in terms of one of Arthur's last lines in Excalibur: "It is a dream I have."

NanceGreggs

(27,816 posts)
8. Just my opinion, but ...
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 06:35 PM
Jun 2015

It seems pretty apparent that some of the "exuberant" Sanders supporters here are using their (alleged) support of Bernie as a cover for bashing Hillary.

Not ALL, certainly - but some, and a very vocal "some".

Sadly, it is a guise that works all too well. One need only read the posts that are nothing more than screeds against HRC, Obama, and/or the Democratic Party - which end with a vague, gratuitous "mention" of Bernie.

Think about it. If you are honestly a Sanders supporter, why would you feel any need to post an endless tirade against other Dems, candidates or otherwise, as a prelude to saying "Oh, and by the way, I support Bernie"?

Some are more obvious than others - but those who ARE obvious are VERY obvious.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
29. Yes, it's the same old crowd
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 03:28 PM
Jun 2015

Those who have been bashing the president for years, and the number has grown, who now seem to have taken control of the Bernie Sanders group. I think that most of the supporters over there are really doing in because they like Bernie and want him in office. I like him also, but the more vocal ones that have been trouble makers for some time, just make it bad for the whole group. I have seen some of the supporters try to talk with the loud mouths and tone them down, but they just get ganged up on by the same crowd, and talking to them does no good at all. It's a real shame.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
9. There seems to be a lot of unmanaged anger around.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 06:35 PM
Jun 2015

I can sympathize with you.

I did notice the site for Hillary's official launch.

And it is beautiful!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
11. I found out something by a supporter trying to trash Hillary today and think I will keep it in
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 06:41 PM
Jun 2015

My bag of tricks. It these outings continues he will be losing votes rather than gaining. Hillary needs to continue to run her campaign and allow this other to fall by the wayside.

William769

(55,147 posts)
13. ALERT RECEIVED.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 06:58 PM
Jun 2015

Action to be taken: NONE WHATSOEVER.

I hope this answer's the question to the person that sent the alert about the violation of Statement of purpose.

William769
One of the friendly Hillary Group Host's.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
15. First it was Kucinich. Then Edwards. Then Warren. Now it's Sanders.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 07:06 PM
Jun 2015

When Sanders loses, they'll find someone else to latch onto as a way to bash Democrats.

Notice how they always pick people who have very little chance of either running or winning? It's very convenient because their candidates will never have to actually do the hard work of governing — which involves compromise and incremental progress, both of which they constantly decry.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
19. I've said this before.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 08:05 PM
Jun 2015

I like and respect Bernie Sanders. He's a fine Senator, and the Senate is all the better for him. He'll be invaluable there to work with Hillary's administration.

The Hillary trashing isn't going to persuade anyone to vote for him, though..

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
21. Nothing to do with Bernie Sanders, an outstanding Senator.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 08:23 PM
Jun 2015

It's the 'Not Hillary' Party they back. They've made that clear.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
26. I understand the frustration of Hillary supporters
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 02:32 PM
Jun 2015

I council patience and circumspection. Some times saying nothing at all is better than saying one thing.

I am staying out of the fray.

Want I really want to post stays inside.

Most of this will pass. But I strongly suspect that in 3 years we will be back to "the piece of sh7t used-car (sic) salesman" days.

Some of this anti Hillary stuff is a set up for that. It will be worse than it was for PBO 'cuz they can point and say "told ya so" every little thing that goes wrong

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
27. It was inevitable that the Hillary Haters were going to gravitate towards
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 03:32 PM
Jun 2015

one candidate or the other. Since Warren wasn't an option anymore, they all fell in behind Sanders.

Of course, there are a lot of people (see avatar) who support Sanders because we agree with his policies.

But, the Sanders candidacy is being used as a vehicle by the chronic malcontents, clickbaiters, and internet dick-measuring-contestants.

You can tell the ones who never had the time to advocate for Bernie until it was clear Warren wasn't going to run.

Important to keep the two groups separate.

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