Sanders did polling before running

[Her Sister]

to know what millennials wanted to hear. Like finding their catnip and running with it. He made this his platform.


http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/iowa-caucus-college-students-2016-213564?o=1

Pollsters for Sanders last year saw indications that the under-25 set would embrace the 74-year-old Vermonter if he pushed issues they cared about—free college tuition, same-sex marriage, legalized marijuana—and those projections were right. Ask young Sanders supporters what they like about him and the responses often echo what was said about a certain former Illinois senator whose Iowa victory over Hillary Clinton in 2008 served as an opening springboard to the White House.

What do you think of this?

[workinclasszero]

1. I think I want to say something that might get me a hide

So I won't say it LOL

Bernie thought he could get the youth vote to the polls for him and he was dead wrong.

[Her Sister]

3. right!? something something

Wish I knew more about this polling. Tried to find out. Maybe someone knows more...

[Trenzalore]

21. He's a crappy organizer

Obama when he reached out to that demographic paid student organizers and made sure the ones that showed up for the show voted.

[riversedge]

28. yes, besides, my wise old grandma said to lay low on Sunday. te he.

[workinclasszero]

32. haha

She was on to something there I bet.

[Fla Dem]

2. Pandering Sanders. Instead of working for the Country, BS works for himself. nt

[workinclasszero]

4. You got that right

[Lucinda]

15. Bernie Panders :)

[Fla Dem]

17. Nailed it! nt

[BlueCaliDem]

18. SPOT. ON. eom

[workinclasszero]

23. LOL!

That's great!

[Tarheel_Dem]

51. Ha! I'm stealing that. "Bernie Panders"!!!!!!!!

[George II]

58. I like it.

[katmille]

50. Ya' know

That's one of the three things that bother me most about Bernie.
1) That is is really not a Democrat but is using the Democratic Party to get what he wants,
2) That he raises lots of money for his campaign, but does very little for other Democrats (oh, wait, he's not a Democrat),
3) He promised to run a positive campaign and has gone very negative while still insisting he is being positive.

So, not surprised that he polled before running to see what to promise young people.
I'm not young. I'm old, but I still work with young people and the best thing I can do for them is to be honest with them, not to promise them the world and then not deliver.

[blue neen]

57. Well said.

[OhZone]

5. So he isn't 100% genuine then? OHMY! nt

[Walk away]

6. No wonder Bernie is so Angry!!!

He forgot to ask the pollsters if the under 25 set would register to vote and show up at the polls!!!!!

The good news is....he will never run again!

[NastyRiffraff]

9. Ding ding ding!

You win the prize!

[Walk away]

10. I'd like to donate my winnings towards Anger Management classes for Bernie Sanders!

Then maybe he will sit through an entire interview!

[NurseJackie]

13. This! Yes! Thank you. nt

[workinclasszero]

24. Thats right

He will have his pockets stuffed full of campaign contributions from the faithful as a lovely parting gift though.

[kjones]

37. During some of the debates...well, I was just hoping he wouldn't drop from an infarction. nt

[Thinkingabout]

7. Since he voted against the health care bill in the 90's because it did not cover 100%, WTH is he

seeking to represent a much smaller percentage? Guess he has another flip flop.

[Rose Siding]

8. "I've got a lot of friends who were Ron Paul supporters but now they’re Bernie supporters"

Bernie's base.

[NastyRiffraff]

11. Ron Paul!

Now there's a name from the dustbin of history. Bernie will be joining him soon.

[yardwork]

14. I have anecdotal real world evidence that there is truth in this.

[Fla Dem]

16. Many are posting in the BS Group. nt

[Trenzalore]

20. I have seen this as well in the real world

The friends I have on Facebook also love Russia Times videos.

[yardwork]

22. You're seeing the same thing I'm seeing.

In my case, they aren't my friends, but acquaintances of my activist son. There is a sub-group out there who really believe that North Korea is a wonderful place, Putin is awesome, libertarianism is the way to go, and Bernie is their man. They believe all these things at the same time.

Yes, some of them are posting on DU.

[DURHAM D]

33. Are they mostly members of the Anarchist group

that showed up at the 2012 DNC Convention?

[yardwork]

36. The Anarchists are their own group.

It's a very loose coalition, and the various groups dislike one another as much as they dislike us (maybe more - civil wars are always the worst).

I have no idea what the Anarchists think of Bernie.

[workinclasszero]

25. 100%

[kjones]

39. Grad student here in Michigan...run into way too many of these people.

Get them off track of hating the government, legalizing everything,
anarchism/down with business though...and they have no idea what
to say.

They're some of the most scatterbrained people I've ever met. It's
like the took the fringy-est stuff from all over the political spectrum
and put them together in one super awkward, "please don't invite
them to the mixer," teens-that-sound-like-my-cranky-grandpa party.

[KittyWampus]

43. It took me a while to grasp this. Other DU'ers saw it

and I tended to gloss over it.

But looking at what has been said/done by Sanders, his campaign and his supporters…

I think there's some Paulites involved along with an unsavory mix of other influences that aren't Democrats or even Greens.

[LisaM]

56. I do, too.

Strange bedfellows.

[shenmue]

12. I can see the heads exploding in GDP

[anotherproletariat]

19. I go to an Ivy League school, and virtually all of my friends there are for Hillary...

I keep telling my parents that smart kids see through the Sanders pandering, but they insist is a socio-economic thing. My other evidence is that my friends at public colleges somehow think the Bernie promise for free education will effect them. As if such an expensive, vast change in policy (including tax hikes) will happen before they finish college (most are freshmen) with a repub congress...not that smart.

[Her Sister]

41. hmm interesting!

makes a lot of sense!

[Walk away]

53. Those fools will be the ones working and paying taxes for rich kids...

to go to college for free! Not smart at all.

[riversedge]

31. No steroids. Sanders is lining up his ponies and now is selling them.

[Her Sister]

34. Take it as you wish! It is very good to know though!

Betcha ya didn't know that!




HRC GROUP!!

[Jackie Wilson Said]

27. Making the job of uniting everyone much harder with this stuff.

This story alleges that Bernie didnt care about these things until he did the research about getting more votes by caring.

Nobody really believes that, do they?

Dont be brought down to the level of all those haters on the other side, it wont help Hillary in the GE if she is the nominee.

[Her Sister]

35. For me this is informing ourselves

It is good to know. Everyone can see it as they wish.

[wysi]

46. We can say what we like in our group

How about wandering back to the BS group?

[Jackie Wilson Said]

47. Are you kidding? They hate me way more than you do.

I am one of those unusual people who will do anything and everything in my power to see whoever the Democratic candidate is, elected.

[wysi]

48. Then you will understand why we in the HRC group...

... have a low tolerance for dissenting posts by BS supporters in our group.

[Rose Siding]

54. You tell me. Here's what he said...

Talking about wooing Southern Dems back in 2013:

“These are guys getting hung up on gay marriage issues,” Sanders told Schultz. “They’re getting hung up on abortion issues. And it is time we started focusing on the economic issues that bring us together: Defending Social Security, defending Medicare, making sure that Medicaid is not cut, that veterans’ programs are not cut.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2013/10/bernie-sanders-tells-ed-schultz-southern-democrats-are-tired-of-being-abandoned-by-the-party/

Now to me it sounds like he's prioritizing, or at least swinging focus toward, economic issues rather than social ones, specifically gay and women's rights.

I don't trust him on anything. He may have some strong opinions on the economy, but that falls far short of what I look for in a president.

[BlueMTexpat]

29. OMG - you mean that

Bernie was acting exactly like other politicians? That he isn't actually "different?"

Whoever would have thought that?

[stopbush]

40. Nice to see people are finally realizing that Bernie is no different than

- nor more-principled than - the average run-of-the-mill politician.

Let's face it, Bernie is the very embodiment of the run-of-the-mill politician - a carrerist with little or nothing to show for it outside of his cushy job, ridiculous salary, and self-aggrandizing belief in his superority to other run-of-the-mill politicians.

[redstateblues]

30. A brilliant scheme- promising things

He couldn't deliver but would get him votes by Targeting a naive segment of the electorate. Almost worked

[stopbush]

38. The only mistake Bernie made was that he failed to ask THE most-important question:

"Does Tad Devine believe those polls are accurate?"

If the answer was "yes," then Bernie should have done the opposite strategy.

[Historic NY]

42. +1

[CalvinballPro]

44. And here I thought that poll-testing ideas was something terrible, because Clinton has done it.

For a supposedly principled man, Bernie sure has flip-flopped on a lot of his core ideas about this primary election.

Now he's trying to say that super-delegates in states that he has won MUST vote for him, but super-delegates in states Clinton has won should give their voters a middle finger and vote for Bernie instead. Does he not realize what a hypocrite this makes him??

[George II]

45. "Sanders did polling before running" - and he STILL decided to run!

[question everything]

49. Like Trump, he probably never thought that he would get some success

so he thought, might as well throw a campaign together and see what will develop.

As an aside, the LA Times editorial chastised Trump for not knowing the rules of the convention, and Sanders for not knowing the role of Super Delegates.

[hrmjustin]

52. So Mr. Puurity isn't so pure after all.

[72DejaVu]

55. "Bernie doesn't tell us what we want to hear"

"I know, because I agree with everything he says."

[SunSeeker]

59. Looks like another Sanders lie exposed.

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At the beginning of his campaign, back in April of last year, Sanders claimed he didn't use pollsters, bragging that he spent $0 on polling.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/bernie-sanders-spent-0-on-polling-because-really-would-it-change-his-mind-anyway_us_55ad54c2e4b065dfe89f15a6

[UtahLib]

60. Let the vetting continue.

[jmowreader]

61. So?

The guy's been a professional politician for FORTY-FIVE YEARS! (He started running for office in 1971 and finally got elected in 1980.) If there's anything Bernie Sanders knows how to do, it's run for office.

[fleabiscuit]

62. Cassanders eom

[R B Garr]

63. His whole campaign is just Occupy Wall Street on steroids, so it makes sense

he is focus-grouped to the max on all the other rah-rah trendy hipster, super cool happenings.

His campaign's phoniness makes me gag. Can't be over soon enough!