Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:20 AM
Her Sister (6,444 posts)
Nate Silver on MathNATE SILVER 12:03 AM
Sanders’s Tough Math ~There are 131 pledged delegates at stake tonight for Democrats. It’s going to be hard for Sanders to win a majority of those given that Arizona has most of the delegates and Clinton is winning big there, but it’s not impossible if he crushes it in Utah and Idaho. So let’s say he almost does it. Clinton gets 66 delegates on the night and Sanders gets 65. That would get Sanders up to 920 pledged delegates, while Clinton would have 1,242, with 1,889 pledged delegates still outstanding. Skipping a little bit of math, but Sanders would need 59 percent of the remaining total to tie Clinton in pledged delegates. That’s really difficult to do; it would be equivalent to beating Clinton by 18 percentage points the rest of the way out. Merely breaking even in delegates isn’t nowhere near enough for Sanders at this point. http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/march-22-primaries-arizona-utah-presidential-election-2016/ http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/delegate-targets/democrats/
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Her Sister | Mar 2016 | OP |
Her Sister | Mar 2016 | #1 | |
Kaleva | Mar 2016 | #3 | |
NurseJackie | Mar 2016 | #7 | |
Treant | Mar 2016 | #8 | |
Kaleva | Mar 2016 | #9 | |
SunSeeker | Mar 2016 | #10 | |
NurseJackie | Mar 2016 | #11 | |
Kaleva | Mar 2016 | #13 | |
NurseJackie | Mar 2016 | #14 | |
Kaleva | Mar 2016 | #15 | |
LiberalFighter | Mar 2016 | #19 | |
liberal N proud | Mar 2016 | #2 | |
stonecutter357 | Mar 2016 | #4 | |
BlueMTexpat | Mar 2016 | #5 | |
Thinkingabout | Mar 2016 | #6 | |
Tarheel_Dem | Mar 2016 | #12 | |
Dawson Leery | Mar 2016 | #16 | |
Tarheel_Dem | Mar 2016 | #18 | |
Codeine | Mar 2016 | #17 |
Response to Her Sister (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:22 AM
Her Sister (6,444 posts)
1. We can make informed predictions
We can make informed predictions.
We know that Clinton does best in larger, more diverse states. We know that Sanders does best in smaller, less diverse states. That's a pattern, and I see no reason to believe that pattern will get flipped upside down. Given that and Clinton's 300+ delegate lead, it's virtually impossible for Sanders to win the nomination. Request after request has been made for someone to use one of the delegate calculators to demonstrate a realistic path to 2026 for Sanders. As far as I know, those requests have never been answered. There's a reason for that. Plagiarizing (again) this comment from Garrett78 (LOL!!) http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511547639#post31 Thought t'was perfect and succinct! |
Response to Her Sister (Reply #1)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:26 AM
Kaleva (34,016 posts)
3. No answers yet to this question posted in the Bernie group
Response to Kaleva (Reply #3)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:10 PM
NurseJackie (42,862 posts)
7. 0 replies, 119 views
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #7)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:19 PM
Treant (1,968 posts)
8. One view was mine
and I didn't answer because I thought the way it was set up was far too rosy for Bernie.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #7)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:42 PM
Kaleva (34,016 posts)
9. I just kicked it back to the top.
Response to SunSeeker (Reply #10)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:36 PM
NurseJackie (42,862 posts)
11. Kaleva will probably be banned for that! :-P
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #11)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 06:32 PM
Kaleva (34,016 posts)
13. Yes I have and the OP has been deleted.
OP's post:
"I've been ordered to delete this discussion by a mod or I will be blocked from the group. I guess we can't discuss delegate math here..." http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=155764 |
Response to Kaleva (Reply #13)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 06:53 PM
NurseJackie (42,862 posts)
14. Bernbabe shouldn't have deleted the post. At worst the only thing they could ...
... have done would be to lock it, but not delete it. As it turns out, the threat to "self-delete or be banned" was an empty promise. Bernbabe deleted the post as requested, and was BANNED ANYWAY.
![]() It's absolutely hysterical that you got banned for making a "kick" post. No text, just "kicked". ![]() They're getting a bit touchy over there, aren't they? ![]() |
Response to NurseJackie (Reply #14)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:08 PM
Kaleva (34,016 posts)
15. I'm banned member #306 and he's #307
I'm not upset for being banned as I'm not a Bernie supporter and they can run their group as they see fit. And your right about Bernbabe should not have deleted his post as it was an interesting question which could have been cross posted in GDP if no one in the Bernie group wanted to answer it there.
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Response to Kaleva (Reply #3)
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:52 AM
LiberalFighter (45,572 posts)
19. I got blocked from the Sanders group yesterday after only one reply.
It was only stating information about the Arizona fiasco. Beam Me Up Scotty blocked me.
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Response to Her Sister (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:26 AM
liberal N proud (59,663 posts)
2. It's all about the math
Response to Her Sister (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:31 AM
stonecutter357 (12,490 posts)
4. K&R!
Response to Her Sister (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:49 AM
BlueMTexpat (15,131 posts)
5. Then there is this, while still awaiting last
night's results and final delegate totals.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/march-22-primaries-arizona-utah-presidential-election-2016/ On the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton won Arizona easily, while Bernie Sanders won Utah and (although it hasn’t been called officially yet) very probably will win Idaho — in both cases perhaps by overwhelming margins. Thus, it’s probable — likely if I had to guess — that Sanders will win more pledged delegates on the evening.
Not all the news is good for Sanders, however. He was expected to win more delegates on the evening based on our demographic targets — and more importantly, he’s far enough behind Clinton that he needs to not just meet but blow out his delegate targets the rest of the way to have a shot at eventually catching Clinton. Alaska, Hawaii and Washington will vote on Saturday, states where we expect Sanders to perform well. |
Response to Her Sister (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:34 PM
Thinkingabout (30,058 posts)
6. I expect the majority of the super delegates to go to Hillary and if any are going to change it will
be from Sanders to Hillary.
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Response to Her Sister (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:53 PM
Tarheel_Dem (31,129 posts)
12. "Merely breaking even in delegates isn’t nowhere near enough for Sanders at this point."
This is the part the BS'ers stubbornly refuse to accept.
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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #12)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:46 PM
Dawson Leery (19,326 posts)
16. April 19 and 26 are going to be dark days for him.
We in the Northeast are ready to give Hillary the nod.
Wisconsin may go against him too. |
Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #16)
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 01:00 AM
Tarheel_Dem (31,129 posts)
18. Fingers & toes crossed.
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Response to Her Sister (Original post)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:18 PM
Codeine (25,586 posts)
17. Better than Nate Silver on meth.
Dude will not shut up!
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