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UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 12:54 PM Mar 2016

Stop engaging unless you are worried the math isn't on Hillary's side

This discussion thread was locked by William769 (a host of the Hillary Clinton group).

Some people need to stop dismissing Bernie's overwhelming wins yesterday. Just like Hillary was expected to take big wins in the south, Bernie was expected to take big wins in the states he won yesterday. Both campaigns have had overwhelming results. I don't know why there is this tit for tat back and forth but its really making it depressing coming on this board. Of the 22 contests left, only 4 (I think) are caucuses. Hillary didn't do well in caucuses in 2008 but your candidate still has the math on her side and exerts her strength in primaries. I know "the math" is something that seems to also be devalued but its there nonetheless. There are delegate rich primaries coming with the kind of demographics that won't allow Sanders to win by the margins he did yesterday so what are some of you'll tripping about? Its this rabidness from both fan bases that makes it hard for me to support either candidate. Whomever I vote for I'll probably keep quiet but based on this forum if I announce I voted for Hillary in the Maryland primary next month I'm sure it will be met with disdain. If I vote for Sanders I'm sure I'll get more support based on how anti-Hillary this site is but still face the wrath from some of you Hillary supporters.

The tide will once again turn and now the map is favorable to Clinton again to the point that she will continue gaining delegates in states like Delaware, NY, MD, NJ, California that unless Sanders wins those states by 80/20, he can't catch her. Close contests don't help him. Even if he wins 60/40 in those states, it won't be enough so why are you engaging in the tit for tat when you have the delegate count and the popular vote on your side? Let Bernie fans be happy with their wins like you were when Hillary swept the 5 states on the last Super Tuesday. She's further ahead than Obama was in 2008 so if I was a Hillary supporter I'd be sitting back filing my nails simply waiting for the last contest and move onto the convention. Some people are really moving beyond silly season with their talking points, which can be manipulated to look a certain way for either candidate. However, your strongest talking point is the delegate count so again...why are you tripping?

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Stop engaging unless you are worried the math isn't on Hillary's side (Original Post) UMTerp01 Mar 2016 OP
"Hillary Clinton (Group)" johnp3907 Mar 2016 #1
Predictise. :) OhZone Mar 2016 #2
Hillary is going to be... workinclasszero Mar 2016 #5
Hi fellow MDer! BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #3
Good counsel... Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #4
Hated math in high school, loving math right now. oasis Mar 2016 #6
I won't be bothering. Treant Mar 2016 #7
I think you are engaging in false equivalence concerning how "rabid" each candidates' supporters spooky3 Mar 2016 #8
Why are you feeling the need to tell other adults how to behave? Lucinda Mar 2016 #9
This is the Hillary Clinton Group Coolest Ranger Mar 2016 #10
I'm of two minds about this. People with unrealistic expectations that are shattered can be very kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2016 #11
I'm going to lock this. Sorry if your intentions are good be we don't need to be lectured in this William769 Mar 2016 #12

johnp3907

(4,301 posts)
1. "Hillary Clinton (Group)"
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:02 PM
Mar 2016

I think you're doing it wrong.

OhZone

(3,216 posts)
2. Predictise. :)
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:08 PM
Mar 2016
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
5. Hillary is going to be...
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:20 PM
Mar 2016

a great president!

BlueMTexpat

(15,688 posts)
3. Hi fellow MDer!
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:11 PM
Mar 2016

As you might guess, I'll be voting for Hillary. I recently received my MD absentee ballot as I will no longer be here by the time the MD primary finally rolls around.

I'm not worried about the math and I wholeheartedly believe that Hillary is the better candidate for many, many reasons. Bernie is a good challenger. While he was expected to win yesterday so the wins were no surprise, he also deserves congratulations for them. I'm also glad he's staying in for now.

But the electoral map and the omnipresent delegate math are both more favorable to Hillary in the end. I do not need to "engage" with anyone about that. But if I see something that is blatantly inaccurate or that continues the repetition of GOP-themed memes against Hillary, I will respond to set the record straight. If the person whose post offends then responds to me with deflection (the usual) or worse (name-calling, etc.), I simply put them on Full Ignore. Life is too short - at least for me, at 70+.

I have already trashed GD-P and life is much nicer without it, believe me.

Whichever candidate you support in the primary is your decision and you will have your valid reasons for doing so. I will not be among those to criticize you for supporting Bernie if that is your choice, so long as you do not trash Hillary in the process. If you do ultimately cast your vote for Hillary, even better!

Thanks for your OP.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
4. Good counsel...
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:20 PM
Mar 2016

oasis

(53,644 posts)
6. Hated math in high school, loving math right now.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:32 PM
Mar 2016

Treant

(1,968 posts)
7. I won't be bothering.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:45 PM
Mar 2016

Clinton romping through a dozen mid-sized states and two huge ones was somehow discounted, but Bernie winning three (two tiny) is the greatest thing ever? It doesn't compute.

I never had too much truck with the math-impaired, so I'll simply sit back and wait for April 26th.

spooky3

(38,587 posts)
8. I think you are engaging in false equivalence concerning how "rabid" each candidates' supporters
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 02:06 PM
Mar 2016

are. I see far more attacking, insulting and other bad behavior on one side than the other here at DU, though many (most?) on both sides are thoughtful, policy- and record- versus emotionally-focused, and considerate.

Even the first sentence of your post could be offensive or viewed as condescending to some - why do you feel the need to tell Clinton supporters what to do? I can't imagine going to GD-P, let alone to a protected group, to tell DUers what they should do.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
9. Why are you feeling the need to tell other adults how to behave?
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 02:14 PM
Mar 2016

DU gets contentious during primaries.
GDP is for discussing those primaries and people will post what they want.
Read it, don't read it. It's your choice.
What I post is mine.

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
10. This is the Hillary Clinton Group
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:26 PM
Mar 2016

Why on earth did you feel the need to come in here and post this? We do not go into Bernie's group and post the same thing. Why can't you guys respect us and leave us alone?

kerry-is-my-prez

(10,267 posts)
11. I'm of two minds about this. People with unrealistic expectations that are shattered can be very
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:58 PM
Mar 2016

unpredictable and do stoooopid things - i.e. - running off and voting for Jill Stein, etc., etc. If their expectations can be gently lowered without it "being in their face," it is kinder. Has to be done in a diplomatic and kind manner. I'm talking about if it is "unrealistic" expectations of course.

William769

(59,147 posts)
12. I'm going to lock this. Sorry if your intentions are good be we don't need to be lectured in this
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 04:28 PM
Mar 2016

Group.

We have a good smooth running Group and that is how we ike to keep it.

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