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Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:18 PM

Clinton camp on Sanders: 'What kind of a campaign is that?'

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-tone-debate-221328

Clinton's chief pollster Joel Benenson stoked the ire of Sanders boosters on Monday afternoon during a CNN interview in which he remarked that any future debate participation on the part of their campaign would depend on the "tone" set by their opponent. Later in the day, press secretary Brian Fallon called the Sanders campaign's letter over the weekend calling for a debate in New York a "stunt" for attention.

“I think what Joel was getting at a couple of things — we had a process whereby we were talking about adding additional debates," senior Clinton adviser Karen Finney told CNN's "New Day" on Tuesday. "That seemed to be working just fine. And then we see this kind of stunt, as Brian Fallon pointed out yesterday, they send this public letter about let’s — you know, demanding a debate. At the same time, we see reports about how they’re doing polling on new lines of attack on Hillary Clinton."

"And so it just felt like — hold on, here — you don’t get to set the terms and conditions around when or where we debate," Finney continued. "We’ve had a process. Let’s stick to that process rather than public stunts, particularly at a time when you had said at the beginning of this campaign, ‘I don’t do negative attacks.’ I think at one point Sen. Sanders also said, ‘I’m not really into polling.’ Well now it’s all about polling and how to attack Hillary Clinton? What kind of a campaign is that?”


All these created tempests! The Sanders campaign should be very careful what it wishes for and how it proceeds in NY. NYers know and LIKE Hillary. NY is also a closed primary. These tactics can backfire.

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Reply Clinton camp on Sanders: 'What kind of a campaign is that?' (Original post)
BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 OP
NurseJackie Mar 2016 #1
rock Mar 2016 #13
fun n serious Mar 2016 #2
liberal N proud Mar 2016 #3
LAS14 Mar 2016 #4
BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #6
UtahLib Mar 2016 #5
stopbush Mar 2016 #7
BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #8
stopbush Mar 2016 #10
BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #11
stopbush Mar 2016 #15
BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #17
Gothmog Mar 2016 #9
CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #12
Lucinda Mar 2016 #14
SharonClark Mar 2016 #16
Cha Mar 2016 #18
BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #19
Cha Mar 2016 #20
DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #21

Response to BlueMTexpat (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:20 PM

1. They are, in a word: desperate.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:17 PM

13. At least they grasp

the reality of the situation.

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:25 PM

2. We have the internet, Bernie.

 

We know Bernie has been spending his money. He has been attacking and attacking NASTY via PAID surrogates online and on the ground. PAID surrogates are part of the CAMPAIGN if the campaign is paying them.

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:29 PM

3. It was all fodder for the BSers to post and repost all over the internet

A political stunt!

But funny thing, Hillary and her campaign staff have been around the block before. HA!

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:31 PM

4. Thaks for the post.

I'm always glad when someone ferrets out a factual account of what's behind the bru-ha-ha.

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Response to LAS14 (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:39 PM

6. I also like what Finney says

a bit later in the article.

In the interview on CNN on Tuesday, host Alisyn Camerota challenged Finney on the reasoning behind their reluctance to participate in more debates, pointing out that most campaigns often point out their opponents' negatives as the election season progresses.

“I’m all for that, but don’t then say, set a standard at the beginning of the campaign and say one thing and then decide you’re going to play it another way just because," Finney answered. "And by the way, I think this is an important point — if we have a debate in New York, I can guarantee you Hillary Clinton would do very well. Not just because she does well at debates, but because this is a state that knows her well, knows that when she says she’s gonna do something she gets it done.”

Pressed on why the Clinton camp would not be moved about debating in New York, Finney reiterated that "the point is less about do we agree or disagree about ‘should we debate in New York?’ and more about ‘Let’s talk about the tone of this campaign’ and again, let’s talk about we had a process by which we were talking about debates.


Bernie's campaign is sounding and acting more and more like the campaign of any other politician. Whoodda thunk?

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:32 PM

5. K&R. nt

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:50 PM

7. Sanders is now running up against the Teflon Hillary has girded on over the decades

of RW assault.

There have been so many faux scandals put out there by the RW that have already had whatever effect they're going to have that any new claim against Hillary - especially something as minor and flimsy as saying she won't add a debate to the already agreed-upon schedule - will not change a single vote anywhere in the remaining state primaries. Hell, the whole email "scandal" is having no impact whatsoever on Hillary excelling in the popular vote, delegate count etc.

All this Bernie stunt does is reinforce the biases against Hillary already held by his zealous supporters. At this point, it's all about keeping the cash flowing in to pay Tad Devine's salary and the eventual second honeymoon in Russia. Outside of that, no one cares - have you seen how bad the viewership numbers have been for the D debates to date?

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Response to stopbush (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:53 PM

8. I haven't been following the viewership numbers for

the Dem debates.

All I know is that in the debates, etc., that I watched, Hill cleaned Bernie's clock. I can't imagine that would change in any future debates.

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:01 PM

10. The R debates are drawing double the viewership of the D debates.

The D debate in October drew 15-million viewers. Since then, viewership has been in the 8-10 million range.

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Response to stopbush (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:08 PM

11. The R debates are like a circus or an ongoing disaster.

Watching a train wreck in process is more interesting to most humans than listening to reasonable people who are discussing real issues of importance.

To me, those viewership figures suggest that most Dem viewers have already made up their minds between Hillary and Bernie, which may be yet another bad sign for Bernie.

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #11)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:13 PM

15. Exactly, which is why more debates as this time aren't necessary.

Sanders is only pushing for them so he has a "she said no" cudgel with which to beat Hilary.

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Response to stopbush (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:22 PM

17. Spot on! eom

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:54 PM

9. I love Karen Finney

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:16 PM

12. I've said it before and will say it again: it's 2008 redux. Sanders and his campaign are using...

 

...the same arguments that failed for Clinton 8 years ago. Maybe they were supposed to work this time around, because Bernie? Who knows what they're thinking. Or if they even are thinking. I know Tad Devine is probably only thinking about the next campaign check being cut to his consulting firm.

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:02 PM

14. That was a great read. Thanks!

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:35 PM

16. He wants to give his stump speech again

and give his supporters something to twitter about. He knows if he doesn't keep them in a constant state of outrage they may drift off.

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:21 PM

18. BS is all about stunts.. love it when they backfire!

Mahalo, BlueMTex!

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Response to Cha (Reply #18)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:27 AM

19. Mahalo, Cha!

I will be SOOO glad when all this primary stuff and nonsense is over with.



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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #19)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:33 AM

20. It's excruciating for so many reasons on so many levels!

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:38 AM

21. K&R!

Well, why not have the debate? After the primary.

He's having a tantrum, really.

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