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BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:18 PM Mar 2016

Clinton camp on Sanders: 'What kind of a campaign is that?'

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-tone-debate-221328

Clinton's chief pollster Joel Benenson stoked the ire of Sanders boosters on Monday afternoon during a CNN interview in which he remarked that any future debate participation on the part of their campaign would depend on the "tone" set by their opponent. Later in the day, press secretary Brian Fallon called the Sanders campaign's letter over the weekend calling for a debate in New York a "stunt" for attention.

“I think what Joel was getting at a couple of things — we had a process whereby we were talking about adding additional debates," senior Clinton adviser Karen Finney told CNN's "New Day" on Tuesday. "That seemed to be working just fine. And then we see this kind of stunt, as Brian Fallon pointed out yesterday, they send this public letter about let’s — you know, demanding a debate. At the same time, we see reports about how they’re doing polling on new lines of attack on Hillary Clinton."

"And so it just felt like — hold on, here — you don’t get to set the terms and conditions around when or where we debate," Finney continued. "We’ve had a process. Let’s stick to that process rather than public stunts, particularly at a time when you had said at the beginning of this campaign, ‘I don’t do negative attacks.’ I think at one point Sen. Sanders also said, ‘I’m not really into polling.’ Well now it’s all about polling and how to attack Hillary Clinton? What kind of a campaign is that?”


All these created tempests! The Sanders campaign should be very careful what it wishes for and how it proceeds in NY. NYers know and LIKE Hillary. NY is also a closed primary. These tactics can backfire.
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Clinton camp on Sanders: 'What kind of a campaign is that?' (Original Post) BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 OP
They are, in a word: desperate. NurseJackie Mar 2016 #1
At least they grasp rock Mar 2016 #13
We have the internet, Bernie. fun n serious Mar 2016 #2
It was all fodder for the BSers to post and repost all over the internet liberal N proud Mar 2016 #3
Thaks for the post. LAS14 Mar 2016 #4
I also like what Finney says BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #6
K&R. nt UtahLib Mar 2016 #5
Sanders is now running up against the Teflon Hillary has girded on over the decades stopbush Mar 2016 #7
I haven't been following the viewership numbers for BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #8
The R debates are drawing double the viewership of the D debates. stopbush Mar 2016 #10
The R debates are like a circus or an ongoing disaster. BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #11
Exactly, which is why more debates as this time aren't necessary. stopbush Mar 2016 #15
Spot on! eom BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #17
I love Karen Finney Gothmog Mar 2016 #9
I've said it before and will say it again: it's 2008 redux. Sanders and his campaign are using... CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #12
That was a great read. Thanks! Lucinda Mar 2016 #14
He wants to give his stump speech again SharonClark Mar 2016 #16
BS is all about stunts.. love it when they backfire! Cha Mar 2016 #18
Mahalo, Cha! BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #19
It's excruciating for so many reasons on so many levels! Cha Mar 2016 #20
K&R! DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #21
 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
2. We have the internet, Bernie.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:25 PM
Mar 2016

We know Bernie has been spending his money. He has been attacking and attacking NASTY via PAID surrogates online and on the ground. PAID surrogates are part of the CAMPAIGN if the campaign is paying them.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
3. It was all fodder for the BSers to post and repost all over the internet
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:29 PM
Mar 2016

A political stunt!

But funny thing, Hillary and her campaign staff have been around the block before. HA!

LAS14

(13,777 posts)
4. Thaks for the post.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:31 PM
Mar 2016

I'm always glad when someone ferrets out a factual account of what's behind the bru-ha-ha.

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
6. I also like what Finney says
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:39 PM
Mar 2016

a bit later in the article.

In the interview on CNN on Tuesday, host Alisyn Camerota challenged Finney on the reasoning behind their reluctance to participate in more debates, pointing out that most campaigns often point out their opponents' negatives as the election season progresses.

“I’m all for that, but don’t then say, set a standard at the beginning of the campaign and say one thing and then decide you’re going to play it another way just because," Finney answered. "And by the way, I think this is an important point — if we have a debate in New York, I can guarantee you Hillary Clinton would do very well. Not just because she does well at debates, but because this is a state that knows her well, knows that when she says she’s gonna do something she gets it done.”

Pressed on why the Clinton camp would not be moved about debating in New York, Finney reiterated that "the point is less about do we agree or disagree about ‘should we debate in New York?’ and more about ‘Let’s talk about the tone of this campaign’ and again, let’s talk about we had a process by which we were talking about debates.


Bernie's campaign is sounding and acting more and more like the campaign of any other politician. Whoodda thunk?

stopbush

(24,393 posts)
7. Sanders is now running up against the Teflon Hillary has girded on over the decades
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:50 PM
Mar 2016

of RW assault.

There have been so many faux scandals put out there by the RW that have already had whatever effect they're going to have that any new claim against Hillary - especially something as minor and flimsy as saying she won't add a debate to the already agreed-upon schedule - will not change a single vote anywhere in the remaining state primaries. Hell, the whole email "scandal" is having no impact whatsoever on Hillary excelling in the popular vote, delegate count etc.

All this Bernie stunt does is reinforce the biases against Hillary already held by his zealous supporters. At this point, it's all about keeping the cash flowing in to pay Tad Devine's salary and the eventual second honeymoon in Russia. Outside of that, no one cares - have you seen how bad the viewership numbers have been for the D debates to date?

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
8. I haven't been following the viewership numbers for
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:53 PM
Mar 2016

the Dem debates.

All I know is that in the debates, etc., that I watched, Hill cleaned Bernie's clock. I can't imagine that would change in any future debates.

stopbush

(24,393 posts)
10. The R debates are drawing double the viewership of the D debates.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:01 PM
Mar 2016

The D debate in October drew 15-million viewers. Since then, viewership has been in the 8-10 million range.

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
11. The R debates are like a circus or an ongoing disaster.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:08 PM
Mar 2016

Watching a train wreck in process is more interesting to most humans than listening to reasonable people who are discussing real issues of importance.

To me, those viewership figures suggest that most Dem viewers have already made up their minds between Hillary and Bernie, which may be yet another bad sign for Bernie.

stopbush

(24,393 posts)
15. Exactly, which is why more debates as this time aren't necessary.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:13 PM
Mar 2016

Sanders is only pushing for them so he has a "she said no" cudgel with which to beat Hilary.

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
12. I've said it before and will say it again: it's 2008 redux. Sanders and his campaign are using...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:16 PM
Mar 2016

...the same arguments that failed for Clinton 8 years ago. Maybe they were supposed to work this time around, because Bernie? Who knows what they're thinking. Or if they even are thinking. I know Tad Devine is probably only thinking about the next campaign check being cut to his consulting firm.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
16. He wants to give his stump speech again
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:35 PM
Mar 2016

and give his supporters something to twitter about. He knows if he doesn't keep them in a constant state of outrage they may drift off.

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