It's like trying to reason with my niece when she was four

[dlwickham]

I babysat one summer and she didn't like her naps.

Trying to reason with a cranky four old just gives you a headache.

Trying to present facts to some is worse.

[Lucinda]

1. Ayep.

[CalvinballPro]

2. I can testify to something similar.

I've got a DU troll trying to pretend that Nate Silver's article is somehow bullish on Bernie.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/its-really-hard-to-get-bernie-sanders-988-more-delegates/

I posted a link to this article in a discussion on another thread. I had a Bernie supporter reply by quoting this paragraph:

The most recent poll of Wisconsin, which votes next week, has Clinton winning there. I ignored it and assumed Sanders will win by 16 percentage points instead. The demographics do look pretty good for Sanders in the Badger State.

Now, if you're a Bernie supporter, you might think that this is Nate Silver calling WI for Sanders. It's not. This paragraph is preceded by this one:

To repeat, these are not predictions. On the contrary, they describe a rose-colored-glasses scenario for Sanders that I consider to be very unlikely. To develop them, I started with our original pledged delegate targets for Sanders. Those already look optimistic for Sanders, who has underperformed his delegate targets in most primaries (he’s beaten them in most caucuses, but there aren’t many caucuses left on the calendar).

And it's been impossible to get the troll to admit that Nate Silver wasn't predicting a Bernie WI win, even with a quote of Nate Silver saying it wasn't a prediction to back me up.

I have 4 nieces and nephews in the 4-5 age range right now. NONE of them are this bad to deal with.

[kaleckim]

3. This from people

that have, since she announced she was running, justified her corruption, her hawkish foreign policy, her record, and still try to pretend they are progressive. Do you all think your arguments don't scream cognitive dissonance? Who will take any of you seriously when you pretend to oppose Citizens United (which Clinton only partially does, she wants to get DARK money out of politics), given what you've said in her defense and given your support of her candidacy? No one will. She won't be able to call out Trump or another Republican on corruption, on taking money from corporate interests, and make it an issue. Think about that, especially given the mood of the country.

[CalvinballPro]

6. Goodbye.

[kaleckim]

7. Respond to what I said

if I am far off, should be easy for you. Prove you can actually discuss things with her left wing critics.

[Her Sister]

9. nah! GOOD BYE!!

HRC GROUP!

[Treant]

10. Why?

We owe you nothing, you're capable of doing the research, and you won't listen anyway. Ignoring your request saves time and energy.

That last is obvious; you just invaded a closed group to spout...whatever that was. You're clearly not big on listening, respect, or rules.

[SharonClark]

11. K&R

[Treant]

4. Personally, I do call WI for Sanders

but you know what? It doesn't matter. I also give him WY. And then comes New York.

Looking down Silver's list, I don't see how Sanders meets that target in the first six. And that's the election for Clinton.

[dlwickham]

13. Wisconsin will be a split

but yes, Sanders will probably win

[Her Sister]

8. oh goodness! I read that article

The whole article is the opposite of NS calling for BS! Pretty much he is saying it's kinda over!

[Chichiri]

12. Pombos enxadristas.

The Portuguese term for an internet troll. It literally translates as "chess-playing pigeon."

[dlwickham]

14. so it will be okay when I start calling some of these fools chess playing pigeons?

[Chichiri]

16. Yes, but use the Portuguese, just to mess with them. :-D nt

[LAS14]

15. This articulates it perfectly.

Having the conversation in print makes it easy to see just how abysmal people are at "listening" (reading). Over and over they respond to posts or articles with rants completely ignoring what was said. It's a lesson for conversation. I even find myself starting to respond to a subject alone. I hope I've caught myself the majority of the time.

Four year olds sure can be frustrating, but nothing like "grown ups" who behave like four year olds.