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Related: About this forumTracing Bernie Sanders' roots in Israel - what did we find? ~CNN
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Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Is this the birthplace of Bernie Sanders' policies?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/09/politics/bernie-sanders-kibbutz-volunteer-israel/
Sanders is Jewish and a self-described "democratic socialist." In the 1960s, he spent several months volunteering on an Israeli collective farm, or kibbutz, that functioned according to communist principles.
For years, Sanders has said he had been on a kibbutz but has been vague about exactly where he stayed. The mystery was apparently solved last week when Israeli newspaper Haaretz dug up a 1990 interview with Sanders. In the article, Sanders claimed he spent several months in 1963 volunteering at Shaar Ha'amakim.
The kibbutz was a cornerstone of Israeli society in the decades before and after the nation was founded in 1948. They were a way for Jewish immigrants from all over the world to work together, growing crops and building a sense of community.
Members, known as kibbutzniks, looked after the land, shared property and distributed profits equally.
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Her Sister
(6,444 posts)It bugs me that he has been vague about it! It just bugs me!
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/09/politics/bernie-sanders-kibbutz-volunteer-israel/
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misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Unlikely that he could transform the USA into the commune of his dreams.
Wowiee
question everything
(47,470 posts)There were many venues promoting socialism in the 60s, including Cuba.
These days, like many liberals, Sanders would prefer not to be associated with Israel, especially with the current government.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)I think it would be interesting just to see the role it played in his development.
Personally I am an atheist. What made me curious is him being vague, as in not wanting to bring this up.
In a general election his biography would come out. Why not now!?
potone
(1,701 posts)Or where it was? That seems to be an assertion on the part of the reporter with no evidence to back it up.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/09/politics/bernie-sanders-kibbutz-volunteer-israel/
Here is the Haaretz Newspaper from CNN source:
Mission Impossible? Finding Bernie Sanders' Kibbutz
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/.premium-1.674364
http://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.701790.1454787332!/image/2411959093.PNG_gen/derivatives/headline_1434x807/2411959093.PNG
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Sanders time on the kibbutz, where he lived for a few months with his ex-wife, Deborah Messing (born Deborah Shiling) is referenced in virtually every profile of the candidate. But the Sanders campaign has been tight-lipped about the name of the kibbutz, leaving journalists in Israel and the U.S. searching fruitlessly for months. It was only on February 4 that Yossi Melman, a longtime Israeli national security journalist, unearthed a 1990 interview he did with the candidate in the Israeli Haaretz newspaper, in which he revealed that the kibbutz in question was Sha'ar Ha'amakim.
By 1963, when Sanders did his volunteer work, Hashomer Hatzairs admiration for Stalin had greatly faded, though not yet vanished. At the time, no one thought it unusual. Nevertheless, the movements historic sympathy for the ruthless Soviet leader is viewed as astonishing nowadays.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-election-2016/1.701792
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.702148
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... and so many other things that his fans ignore.
wisteria
(19,581 posts)They would twist the purpose, embellish the Matxist aspect, and tag Sander's as Anti American,
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)The newspaper that CNN quoted about the kibbutz writes a lot about BS, found a couple interesting articles:
Bernie Sanders Is Smart to Keep His Mouth Shut About Israel
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.702148
After Sanders' Kibbutz Past Revealed, Right-wing Critics Blast His 'Stalinist Past'
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-election-2016/1.701792
How did a socialist kibbutz influence Bernie Sanders?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/09/politics/bernie-sanders-kibbutz-volunteer-israel/
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