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MrWendel

(1,881 posts)
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:00 PM Apr 2016

Rachel Maddow Show Analyzes Bernie's Claim That HILLARY Is In The Pocket Of Big Oil... It's FALSE!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/2/1509392/-Rachel-Maddow-Show-Analyzes-Bernie-s-Claim-That-HILLARY-Is-In-The-Pocket-Of-Big-Oil-It-s-FALSE

By educatordcm



Interesting analysis from the Rachel Maddow Show in an article titled “Money From Big Oil Isn’t Always What It Appears To Be”. The information presented ran VERY CONTRARY to the information Bernie, his campaign, his surrogates, and his supporters are perpetuating. I find this source very credible, as Steve Benen is an Emmy Nominated political writer for The Rachel Maddow Show and an extremely respected political journalist. Some of the highlights:

www.msnbc.com/...

For its part, the Sanders campaign highlighted the encounter and insisted that Clinton “has relied heavily on funds from lobbyists working for the oil, gas and coal industry.” This morning, the senator himself repeated the charge, arguing, “The fact of the matter is Secretary Clinton has taken significant money from the fossil fuel industry.”

The point of the criticisms is hardly subtle: Sanders and his supporters want Democrats to see Clinton as someone who may not follow through on her energy and environmental commitments because of the money she’s received from Big Oil.
So, is that fair? Let’s unwrap this a bit.

The Washington Post published a report today, relying on data from the Center for Responsive Politics, which drew an important distinction that sometimes gets lost in the shuffle: technically, both Clinton and Sanders have received money from “the oil and gas industry.”

The total for Clinton’s campaign is about $308,000; for Sanders’s, it’s about $54,000. As Clinton noted in the moment, the Center for Responsive Politics mostly aggregates contributions by employer.

If a guy who runs the commissary at Chevron in California gives $27 to Bernie Sanders, that’s counted as “oil and gas industry” money.


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Rachel Maddow Show Analyzes Bernie's Claim That HILLARY Is In The Pocket Of Big Oil... It's FALSE! (Original Post) MrWendel Apr 2016 OP
Why isn't the truth told, since all of the hell raising, it has Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #1
BS lies and pretend he isn't dirty. liberal N proud Apr 2016 #2
Not only did the WaPo's fact checker give BS three Pinocchios, FactCheck.org also spooky3 Apr 2016 #3
The Sanders supporters really hate facts Gothmog Apr 2016 #4
K&R 2naSalit Apr 2016 #5
WOW.. I bet BS didn't count on that! Mahalo Mr Wemdel! BS can Apologize to Hillary rirght now. Cha Apr 2016 #6
Bernie folks seem to be getting... Skid Rogue Apr 2016 #7
Sanders can't stop lying about Hillary. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #8
When is the Press going to vet Bernie Sanders.... Walk away Apr 2016 #9
Uh oh! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #10
I've finally had it with Bernie Sanders. No more kid gloves for him. oasis Apr 2016 #11
I'm relieved they're finally starting to call him on a small portion of his BS. shadowandblossom Apr 2016 #12
and then he demanded an apology from her shadowandblossom Apr 2016 #13
KnR Hekate Apr 2016 #14
Kick Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #15
K&R! DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #16

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. Why isn't the truth told, since all of the hell raising, it has
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:17 PM
Apr 2016

Brought out the fact Sanders has been getting donations from employees if the fossil fuel industry. The fact Sanders has received less donations than Hillary is not a valid point make in a campaign issue, it is a Sanders issue since there are also more votes for Hillary than Sanders.

spooky3

(36,326 posts)
3. Not only did the WaPo's fact checker give BS three Pinocchios, FactCheck.org also
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:25 PM
Apr 2016

provided much of the same analysis and conclusion:

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/12/clinton-and-fossil-fuel-money/

"...The $160,000 (as of 12/15) Clinton’s campaign has received from the oil and gas industry comes entirely from oil and gas company employees (her campaign also received $398,000 from oil and gas employees during the 2008 campaign — fifth highest among the presidential candidates). These employees could be executives or merely rank-and-file employees of an oil or gas company. Although the tally includes PAC donations, no PACs tied to the oil and gas industry have donated to the Clinton 2016 campaign, researchers at the Center for Responsive Politics told us."

Here is the WaPo fact checker's column from today:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/04/02/fact-checking-the-clinton-sanders-spat-over-big-oil-contributions/

This is separate from Philip Bump's column, which Steve Benen referenced.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/01/why-hillary-clinton-is-justifiably-annoyed-by-critiques-of-her-big-oil-fundraising/

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
7. Bernie folks seem to be getting...
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:52 PM
Apr 2016

so carried away that they can't tell the difference between the truth and their own spin. You know, I've always faulted Republicans for believing their own bullshit. Apparently, it's not just a Republican problem.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
9. When is the Press going to vet Bernie Sanders....
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 10:29 PM
Apr 2016

He is getting away with lies and smears and the media does nothing.

It's nice that Rachel finally said something but really...Sanders has been thieving and lying his way through this entire campaign while she kissed his ass day in and day out. How about telling the whole truth about Saint Bernie!

oasis

(51,737 posts)
11. I've finally had it with Bernie Sanders. No more kid gloves for him.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 11:05 PM
Apr 2016

I can no longer lay the blame of his misguided behavior solely on Jane, Tad Devine and Jeff Weaver.

shadowandblossom

(718 posts)
13. and then he demanded an apology from her
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:05 AM
Apr 2016

for impuning his reputation by confronting one of his goons about his lying. What an ass.

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