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RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 07:10 PM Apr 2016

538 has a YouGov poll with WI at 47% Hillary and 49% Bernie. She could pull it out.

Hillary has been doing some hard work in WI, and her performance at the WI Founders Dinner was BETTER than Bernie's. For the most part, Bernie did his usual stump speech of broad themes. Hillary was MUCH more TARGETED in her remarks, talking A LOT about Wisconsin in particular and the issues important to that state including how she is working to help ALL candidates there. She has also been getting some good newspaper endorsements.

The only reason I think Bernie is doing well in the polls in WI is that it is a god damned open primary. (I don't like those because I believe that PARTY MEMBERS ONLY should choose their candidates, and people can vote strategically and throw off the results.

One recent poll has her ahead, and this one has her gaining back ground, and, if this trend continues into the end game, she could squeak it out. This will be all about TURNOUT. It's all within the margin of error. If Bernie wins it, I bet it is by a small amount and they essentially split the delegates.

So c'mon folks in WI. GOTV GOTV GOTV !!!

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Treant

(1,968 posts)
4. And hopefully the
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 07:17 PM
Apr 2016

communities responded to the clarion call by the Clinton campaign and got valid voting ID...

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
7. Much as it sucks, these bastard right wingers got in power, so suck it up and GET THE DAMNED ID!!!
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:39 PM
Apr 2016

Hate to say it, but this is what happens when right wing assholes are allowed to win elections. So if people don't like this SHIT, then they need to GO AND VOTE, and VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS. In the meantime, it is what it is. No sense in bitching about it. Just go get the god damned ID and VOTE.

consciouslocs

(43 posts)
5. Independents have helped
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:05 PM
Apr 2016

Him along the way, but there is a competitive R primary that might draw some of them away to vote against Trump. I think the difference will be how strongly Democrats show up and how many Indy vote in the R primary.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
3. I am certainly hopeful
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 07:16 PM
Apr 2016

but very much question as to whether WI is a Clinton state.

The question here isn't who wins or loses, it's why Sanders is performing so poorly in a state that should, by the demographic data, be a very strong performer for him. As it stands, win or lose it's going to be a very close race...and it simply shouldn't be. He should be taking this in a cake walk.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
6. Yes, the Founders Day dinner plus her attacks on Walker and support for the progressive
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:10 PM
Apr 2016

candidate for Supreme Court and her strong speech on the Supreme Court I think did a lot of good here in Wisconsin. Meanwhile Bernie has been one-note as usual.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
8. YUP. Her people should be running ads that reflect these very things which are RESONATING.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:41 PM
Apr 2016

I think she's getting a lot of union help too. She has been pushing that theme hard.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
9. Small turnout for his rally tonight too...Maybe WI has started paying more attention to him!
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 09:33 PM
Apr 2016

And his Dem dinner speech was really weak. He gets bonus points for showing up, but to stand in front of people who know you are doing nothing for the party and telling them you should be the candidate because you do better in polls against the GOP seemed like weak sauce. Everyone in that room knew those polls mean next to nothing right now.

liberal N proud

(61,181 posts)
12. I am thinking the BSers are all worried about it - they are already crying foul
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 08:25 AM
Apr 2016

I have seen multiple posts today about Voter Suppression and flipping votes. When they are preemptive with those claims, they are usually headed for a loss.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
14. My feeling is Bernie will win but it will not be a big enough
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 09:16 AM
Apr 2016

win to make any real dent in delegates.

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