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CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:09 PM Apr 2016

Obama unable to begin campaigning for GE due to ongoing primary

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/sanders-reshapes-obamas-2016-plans-221560

Despite his steadily rising popularity, the president’s expected role in 2016 as the Democratic Party unifier is on hold for another three-and-a-half months, if Sanders keeps his campaign going through the July convention.


I know the 2008 primary went long, and I have no right to demand Sanders quit, but I would hope that he could at least think strategically enough to know when to wind it down. Instead, he's ramping up the attacks, which are just going to be used against us later. So disappointing.
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Obama unable to begin campaigning for GE due to ongoing primary (Original Post) CalvinballPro Apr 2016 OP
Another way Sanders is hurting Dems. nt SunSeeker Apr 2016 #1
That was my first thought as well liberal N proud Apr 2016 #3
Spite-er man! kjones Apr 2016 #6
I love you! That's bloody brilliant! LOL Stand and Fight Apr 2016 #14
When did Hillary leave the campaign in '08? I forgot. yeoman6987 Apr 2016 #7
June 7. But it was a completely different schedule, and some states lost delegates for moving up CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #12
Thanks. I would imagine Bernie will assess things in May yeoman6987 Apr 2016 #13
He has already said that he's staying in until CA votes. That's in June. n/t Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #17
Oh ok. I hadn't heard that. It's totally his decision. yeoman6987 Apr 2016 #18
Did you also forget that Dubya was President in '08? SunSeeker Apr 2016 #15
I think President Obama should just call the election on math cosmicone Apr 2016 #2
I can't believe that Prez O will wait much longer BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #5
IMO, his ramping up of attacks on Hillary BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #4
Hillary really just needs to stick to Obama's 2008 winning strategy: let delegates speak CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #8
I believe that they have received the message. BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #10
Bernie has as much to do with integrity cosmicone Apr 2016 #9
I really didn't believe that BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #11
This is "politico" so I'm taking it with salt.. anyway, I'm betting that President Obama Cha Apr 2016 #16
As with most things, I trust Pres. Obama's judgement here. There's no point in pissing off a third.. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #19
And I agree, but the more time we have to do that, the better. eom CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #20
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
7. When did Hillary leave the campaign in '08? I forgot.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:16 PM
Apr 2016

I would say that if Bernie can still win the primary then he should stay in. I think they should not use super delegates in the totals right now. In fact for future primaries, I think they should be used at the convention only.

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
12. June 7. But it was a completely different schedule, and some states lost delegates for moving up
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:29 PM
Apr 2016

the calendar too far. (Michigan.)

The convention that year was in late August.

SunSeeker

(53,264 posts)
15. Did you also forget that Dubya was President in '08?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:11 PM
Apr 2016

I don't think the Dem nominee was hurt by Dubya waiting in the wings not being able to campaign for the Dem nominee.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
2. I think President Obama should just call the election on math
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:14 PM
Apr 2016

and endorse Hillary to start campaigning.

Bernie is not a democrat and doesn't have the best interests of the party in his mind. He is only for himself.

BlueMTexpat

(15,475 posts)
5. I can't believe that Prez O will wait much longer
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:15 PM
Apr 2016

than after the April 26 results, especially if Bernie continues his current tactics.

BlueMTexpat

(15,475 posts)
4. IMO, his ramping up of attacks on Hillary
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:14 PM
Apr 2016

as opposed to the GOP shows him as the ordinary politician he truly is, not the person of spotless integrity that he made himself out to be at the beginning.

Bring them on!

Hillary's clearly on the high road and her surrogates are not making outlandish or unacceptable statements. This is the much better choice and will serve her well in the GE.

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
8. Hillary really just needs to stick to Obama's 2008 winning strategy: let delegates speak
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:17 PM
Apr 2016

No one needs to stoop to Sanders' level at this point, because it will only reflect negatively on our candidate. I hope all of her surrogates have gotten word or are just smart enough to know on their own to just maintain, keep calm, and carry on.

"Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Edit: in the interests of following my own advice, I am trashing GDP. Place makes me so angry I lose my cool too often.

BlueMTexpat

(15,475 posts)
10. I believe that they have received the message.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:23 PM
Apr 2016

She's run a classy campaign and is way ahead at this point. There is definitely no need to resort to mudslinging.

But they all should certainly continue to set her record straight when Bernie and his spokepersons distort it or outright lie about it.

In the meantime, the Ninas, Cornells, Susans, Tims, etc. continue to make themselves less credible spokespersons - and their candidate less credible as "Mr. Integrity" - literally every time they open their mouths.

BlueMTexpat

(15,475 posts)
11. I really didn't believe that
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:28 PM
Apr 2016

until this past weekend. I'd given him the benefit of the doubt on everything until then.

But deliberately meddling to overturn an official caucus result - even when that deliberate meddling did not change that Hillary still remained the winner and is still WAY ahead in delegates - was the final straw for me.

It was the principle. When a candidate holds him/herself to be the most principled, that candidate had better behave in the most principled way. Bernie did not.

Cha

(303,428 posts)
16. This is "politico" so I'm taking it with salt.. anyway, I'm betting that President Obama
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 06:07 PM
Apr 2016

is going to step in at the right time.. and not be dictated by BS dragging anything further down to hurt the Democratic Party.

Thank you for this, Calvin

Tarheel_Dem

(31,422 posts)
19. As with most things, I trust Pres. Obama's judgement here. There's no point in pissing off a third..
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 06:16 PM
Apr 2016

of the party if you don't have to. It makes the job of "bringing us all together" that much harder. I think PBO knows that Democrats prefer Hillary, and folks like Sarandon & Robbins aren't Democrats. In fact, they've gone out of their way to harm Democrats.

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