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Walk away

(9,494 posts)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 03:54 PM Apr 2016

Bernie on charities.....No wonder he hates the Clinton Initiative!

http://www.nytimes.com/1981/09/19/nyregion/notes-on-people-some-disunity-along-the-united-way.html#pq=GTBW90

For the kickoff of the 40th annual Chittenden County United Way fund-raising drive in Burlington, Vt., the sponsors considered themselves fortunate to have as guests Mayor Bernard Sanders of Burlington and Gov. Richard Snelling of Vermont.

But the charity workers heard the sort of things they wanted to hear from only one of their guests.

''I don't believe in charities,'' said Mayor Sanders, bringing a shocked silence to a packed hotel banquet room. The Mayor, who is a Socialist, went on to question the ''fundamental concepts on which charities are based'' and contended that government, rather than charity organizations, sho uld take over responsibilit y for social programs.

Governor Snelling sought to counter Mr. Sanders' remarks, saying: ''Charity is not a dirty word. We have discovered that you can't buy caring.''
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Bernie on charities.....No wonder he hates the Clinton Initiative! (Original Post) Walk away Apr 2016 OP
I don't want the government taking over charities dlwickham Apr 2016 #1
It's vetting, I mean getting a little hard to excuse stuff like this. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #2
I saw what you did there. brer cat Apr 2016 #11
KNR Thank you! Lucinda Apr 2016 #3
charity enid602 Apr 2016 #4
Spot on. eom BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #12
OMG & WOW & WTF??!! NurseJackie Apr 2016 #5
i dunno. mopinko Apr 2016 #6
The Wounded Warrior ads support a moneymaking enterprise for the board, not warriors. .... Hekate Apr 2016 #7
they arent a total scam. mopinko Apr 2016 #18
I'm glad your brother is involved that way; it's so needed. I too want vets' health care improved... Hekate Apr 2016 #19
Wounded Warriors has been proven to be a scam SharonClark Apr 2016 #14
Government can't do it all; neither can charity. But to withold charity because of waiting for gov't Hekate Apr 2016 #8
So true SharonClark Apr 2016 #15
fully vetted my ass. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #9
Kick & recommended. William769 Apr 2016 #10
That's could be one of the reasons he won't release his full tax records. Fla Dem Apr 2016 #13
Vetting. This kind of heartlessness is going to hurt him in the general. Dawson Leery Apr 2016 #16
Must be the grumpy old man in him Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #17
That's just despicable NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #20
Bernie Sanders doesn't like charities. PS: Take a moment to send $27 to Bernie's campaign... kjones Apr 2016 #21
Holy cow, to say something like that as a guest speaker at a United Way event! Incredibly callous Tanuki Apr 2016 #22

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
1. I don't want the government taking over charities
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 04:00 PM
Apr 2016

I can't imagine how fucked up things would be under republicans

enid602

(9,722 posts)
4. charity
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 04:53 PM
Apr 2016

Socialists do not believe in charity, as they believe it's the government's responsibility to take care of everyone. Nonetheless, most of the Clintons' charity goes to very poor countries that don't have adequate resources to solve their problems. Bernie's campaign's denigration of the Clinton Foundation is beyond contempt.

mopinko

(73,796 posts)
6. i dunno.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:00 PM
Apr 2016

every time i see those wounded warrior adds my blood boils. i dont have a problem w charities, but when the government isnt even providing for vets, there is something wrong.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
7. The Wounded Warrior ads support a moneymaking enterprise for the board, not warriors. ....
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:31 PM
Apr 2016

So their take on the subject is suspect at best. There's a lot of things wrong with the official government system, but scamming the vets for money isn't one of them.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/wounded-warrior-project-accused-of-wasting-donation-money/

http://fortune.com/2016/03/11/wounded-warriors-project/

mopinko

(73,796 posts)
18. they arent a total scam.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 07:31 PM
Apr 2016

my brother is a wilderness guide in cali. he is very active, and his chapter is very active taking disabled vets on fishing and hiking trips.
but hiking and fishing is a poor substitute for effective treatment for ptsd.

they do have too high of an overhead. but they do do good things. they would be a fine supplement for good benefits for vets, but they are a very poor substitute.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
19. I'm glad your brother is involved that way; it's so needed. I too want vets' health care improved...
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 07:45 PM
Apr 2016

...exponentially. What happened during BushCheney made me sick to my stomach, most especially the separate system for National Guard troops who got warehoused at places like Fort Knox. That any part of the failures that were exposed then still exist is a national disgrace.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
8. Government can't do it all; neither can charity. But to withold charity because of waiting for gov't
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:32 PM
Apr 2016

....to perfect itself is really, really cold.

Fla Dem

(27,685 posts)
13. That's could be one of the reasons he won't release his full tax records.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 06:43 PM
Apr 2016

It not going to look good for him if he has no contributions to charities. It will show him to be the the person he really is. I've got mine, the heck with everyone else.

Dawson Leery

(19,570 posts)
16. Vetting. This kind of heartlessness is going to hurt him in the general.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 06:51 PM
Apr 2016

Trump actually has given millions to charity. Bernie is going to look bad against Trump on this matter. That is sad because Trump as a whole is just terrible.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(136,342 posts)
17. Must be the grumpy old man in him
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 07:05 PM
Apr 2016

Quit coming round my house asking for donations! And get off my lawn!!!!!

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
20. That's just despicable
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 08:20 PM
Apr 2016

to say that at a charity event! Can he be more tone-deaf? I don't want to even imagine this man anywhere near the White House. The Senate is bad enough.

kjones

(1,059 posts)
21. Bernie Sanders doesn't like charities. PS: Take a moment to send $27 to Bernie's campaign...
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:43 AM
Apr 2016

What...
Well, I'll keep quiet, but I had though I couldn't think any less of him.
I was wrong. Touche Bernie.

There's no reason to dismiss charity, like, why?

Tanuki

(16,476 posts)
22. Holy cow, to say something like that as a guest speaker at a United Way event! Incredibly callous
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 06:02 AM
Apr 2016

and lacking in empathy, and worse yet, discouraging others from being kind and generous to the less fortunate. "Once people get to know him, they like him," my foot. The increased exposure of our secular saint over the course of this campaign has had the exact opposite effect on me.

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