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MADem

(135,425 posts)
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:55 AM Apr 2016

Bernie Bombs in NYDN Editorial Meeting, Reveals Just How Substance-Free His Campaign Is

All in all, a simply pitiful performance from Sanders. It’s hard to read the entire thing and not agree with former Obama advisor Dan Pfeiffer‘s take: “The transcript of Sanders’ meeting with the Daily News Ed Board is almost as damning as Trump’s with the WaPo.” But at least Trump was in hostile territory; Sanders was talking to a liberal tabloid.

It’s possible Bernie just had an off-day, that he actually knows all the answers to those very basic questions he was asked. But it seems much more likely that the reason he couldn’t answer those questions were because he lacks the seriousness and savvy one expects from a presidential candidate. I’m sure if you asked Sanders himself what went wrong, he’d give the same answer he gave for an hour straight: I don’t know.



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Bernie Bombs in NYDN Editorial Meeting, Reveals Just How Substance-Free His Campaign Is (Original Post) MADem Apr 2016 OP
Looks like the NYDN Editorial board did their homework... BS was unprepared. Cha Apr 2016 #1
I'll bet he is being schooled now by his advisors pandr32 Apr 2016 #4
Good point, pandr.. he better be. Crash course.. of course his advisors will have to study up, Cha Apr 2016 #5
Thanks Cha, and agreed! pandr32 Apr 2016 #10
I agree, he can study up on these particular issues for the debate... CajunBlazer Apr 2016 #19
BS is his own worst enemy.. he put that media feeding frenzy into motion and now he's trying Cha Apr 2016 #20
But remember he is view as the "most honest" CajunBlazer Apr 2016 #24
He's destroying that meme as we type. Cha Apr 2016 #25
I'm not so sure Treant Apr 2016 #12
I agree about them spinning this as a MSM Clinton attack pandr32 Apr 2016 #13
You'd know better than I Treant Apr 2016 #15
Me too.. the only time I've heard him speak is that clip when he was saying "Exucse Me .. I'm Cha Apr 2016 #21
We're finding out more and more that he's just the man behind the curtain in Emerald City George II Apr 2016 #2
We knew it before.. the NYDN let everyone in on the secret. Cha Apr 2016 #6
Wow, it's even worse to see it. LisaM Apr 2016 #18
Is this lack of answers/knowledge acceptable Her Sister Apr 2016 #3
IMO, no--I found his answers rather terrifying. I thought he was smarter than that. nt MADem Apr 2016 #7
So glad this is coming out before NY!!! Her Sister Apr 2016 #8
Which likely accounts for his total lack of support--those that know him best don't think much of MADem Apr 2016 #9
Good point, MADem. brer cat Apr 2016 #11
I agree, after working in chambers as Congress, he should have lots of friends, established Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #14
The biggest strenght of his campaign is all of his promises CajunBlazer Apr 2016 #22
Yes, it is time to bring these issues to light, Hillary has tried to Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #23
k LAS14 Apr 2016 #16
This reminds me TMontoya Apr 2016 #17

Cha

(319,298 posts)
1. Looks like the NYDN Editorial board did their homework... BS was unprepared.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:11 AM
Apr 2016
To say nothing of all the times Sanders simply dodged a question. For example, he gave a lengthy three-hundred word response to a question about the Obama administration’s drone policy that didn’t even mention drones. He did however bring up the fact that Hillary Clinton voted for the Iraq War while he didn’t.

After listening to President Obama's intelligence for over 7 years and Hillary in the primary.. it's such a disappointment to see a candidate like this in the Dem Primary.

BS is always going on about what a "disappointment President Obama is".. Look who's talking. Hillary is unequivocally the best candidate.

Thank you for this, MADem~

pandr32

(14,297 posts)
4. I'll bet he is being schooled now by his advisors
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:16 AM
Apr 2016

He has a debate coming up, in New York no less. He cannot afford to look unprepared again.
He has been saying these things for years yet never worked them through, because he is all bluster.
Aloha Cha!

Cha

(319,298 posts)
5. Good point, pandr.. he better be. Crash course.. of course his advisors will have to study up,
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:20 AM
Apr 2016

too.. not sure they know anything about it. It's all been demagoguery and hate hurled @ Hillary and getting away with it up to this point.

That's why this is kind of a miracle!

Aloha pandr~

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
19. I agree, he can study up on these particular issues for the debate...
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:44 PM
Apr 2016

....but he can't take back the words that he has already spoken. He is certainly going to asked questions by the debate moderators about why he didn't have proper answers to those important questions at the time of interview.

Also I feel sure that Hillary is going ponce and go into her new "discredit and disqualify" mode. I think that this issue is fair game. It won't be a personal attack, but when a candidate doesn't know key information about his most important issues or how he he will implement some of what he has said are among his most important proposals, that goes to whether he can handle the job or not.

However, I don't think that we will have to wait until the debate to see a media frenzy. The NY media is like a bunch of hungry sharks when there is blood in the water. The feeding frenzy has already started.

I pretty sure that the free pass that Bernie has been given until now is about to expire and the vetting is set to begin.

Cha

(319,298 posts)
20. BS is his own worst enemy.. he put that media feeding frenzy into motion and now he's trying
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:54 PM
Apr 2016

to weasel out of it and blame Hillary.

How accountable would he be for his actions in the Oval Office?

Hillary has the facts and truth on her side.. BS has the ability to twist it.. he's had years of practice.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
12. I'm not so sure
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:50 PM
Apr 2016

This has been his MO for years, and I have a sneaking suspicion the negative press is being written off as the mainstream media being in the bag for Clinton.

I very much doubt a single shining thread of reality penetrated the upper echelon of the campaign. I'm hopeful a few rays of light shone onto the voters, however.

pandr32

(14,297 posts)
13. I agree about them spinning this as a MSM Clinton attack
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:03 PM
Apr 2016

...but at the same time it is easy to see someone is schooling Sanders to make him appear to have more foreign policy knowledge, as one example. Watching his "debates" and interviews over the campaign shows he is clearly being "schooled." He has also had his "image" worked on. He awkwardly smiles more...uggggggghhh

Cha

(319,298 posts)
21. Me too.. the only time I've heard him speak is that clip when he was saying "Exucse Me .. I'm
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:55 PM
Apr 2016
talking!!!!"

George II

(67,782 posts)
2. We're finding out more and more that he's just the man behind the curtain in Emerald City
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:13 AM
Apr 2016

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. IMO, no--I found his answers rather terrifying. I thought he was smarter than that. nt
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:29 AM
Apr 2016
 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
8. So glad this is coming out before NY!!!
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:38 AM
Apr 2016

I bet many of the Superdelegates know BS personally and where privy to his degree of knowledge or not.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
9. Which likely accounts for his total lack of support--those that know him best don't think much of
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:40 AM
Apr 2016

him.

You'd think, after more than a quarter century on the Hill, he'd have made a few friends....but it's shocking to me how few of his peers have supported him. It's like "To know him is to NOT love him at all."

brer cat

(27,610 posts)
11. Good point, MADem.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:06 PM
Apr 2016

I was very surprised when he bombed that interview, but his colleagues probably were not; they know there is no substance behind his bluster.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
14. I agree, after working in chambers as Congress, he should have lots of friends, established
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 04:13 PM
Apr 2016

relationships in order to get things accomplished, he did not get big things accomplished. I listened to the interview and was shocked he did not have an answer on breaking up the banks. He gets a question and bobbles off to something else, the questions will not be easy, either he can show he is up to taking the questions and answering them to show he is not in over his head.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
22. The biggest strenght of his campaign is all of his promises
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:13 AM
Apr 2016

The greatest weakness of his campaign is his lack of practical plans to make his promises happen. This is his vulnerability because if it can be illustrated that he has no way of implementing his promises, the support of those who are attracted by those promises will evaporate and he will be left with only his far left "true believers".

One example where I would hit him hard is on his free college tuition promise. I would ask him how does he plan to implement that. He would of course answer with this tax the rich scheme. I would then ask how is he going to get his plan through a Republican controlled Congress. To that the would give his standard reply that "the revolution" is going to put in place not only a new President, but also a new Congress. Then I would ask him how is that going to happen when he has contributed none of his huge stack of campaign contributions to down stream races and most of his Congressional colleagues won't support him because they're afraid that his presence at the top of the ticket will cost them their Congressional seats.

In closed primary states I would hit him hard on all of the important Democratic proposals which he refused to support and how many Democrats he ran against in his political career. I would bring up all of the times he criticized the Democrat Party and said that the two major parties were the essentially same, and that both were useless. I would emphasize that he isn't a true Democrat, that he is in interloper who is trying to steal the Democratic nomination.

Will Hillary go that far and risk alienating Bernie's supporters, probably not, but it would be fun to watch.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
23. Yes, it is time to bring these issues to light, Hillary has tried to
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:21 AM
Apr 2016

Pull him to the left on gun issues but he remains right. The next debate will be interesting, will he come out with more of his hits he has used tonight or will he try to push his agenda, I doubt the issues since it is not obtainable.

 

TMontoya

(369 posts)
17. This reminds me
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:52 PM
Apr 2016

Of Joe Peschi in My Cousin Vinny. Giving the speech about the deck of cards being thin on substance.

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