Why was my OP Thread on the Vatican Visit Invitation Deleted last night!!!!

[Her Sister]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110795636

Not sure why was it deleted. Someone says it was debunked, but it seems the topic is still developing. There are conflicting stories.

It comes from this source: http://www.dailynewsbin.com/



On Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:21 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Bernie Sanders tried to trick his way into Pope Francis invitation,
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110795636

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This barrative has been proven false. To continue to repeat a lie is as good as lying to DU.

Shameful.

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:24 PM, and voted 5-2 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Try to keep up... this was debunked HOURS ago.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: All false. Trash.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

CONSEQUENCES OF THIS DECISION

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[giftedgirl77]

1. Only lies about Dems are allowed on this board.

A serious fumigation is needed around here.

[BlueCaliDem]

5. Word. eom

[Her Sister]

6. one of the people voting to HIDE

wrote that it was a lie. So they decide all mighty that this was a lie so we stop talking about it. See the only comment in the thread, Very self-righteous. Prob person that "reported" me to the juries.

[giftedgirl77]

9. Yes, well since they have decided the only source worth using

is one ran by BernieBros facts aren't a priority. Which is hilarious since they decry anything.that shines BS in a negative light.

[Her Sister]

2. What is going on with DU juries?

I reported it right away last night. This is still developing. We are all hashing the story. More and more coming out! Who the heck has the authority to DECIDE this has been debunked.

[IamMab]

36. The jury system is broken, and here's why

Star Members get automatic +40% chance of serving on juries.
Star Membership can be gained with a single one-time donation of any value.
Do you think the folks sending Sanders $27 every chance they get can't set aside $5 or $10 to help control the DU jury system?

If they haven't already, more HRC supporters should just toss DU $10 like I did (a one-time payment giving me one year of membership) and see their chance of serving on a jury jump from 19% to 59%. Then maybe we can help prevent biased juries from hiding posts for BS reasons like "It was debunked, by which I mean I didn't like it, so I claimed it was debunked as an excuse to hide it."

[kjones]

41. Hmm...

So I have to pay for increased chances of fairer juries?
Does that sound right to anyone?

Paying (the admin) for better chances seems like a poor
repair for a gamey jury system (which the admin should
just fix). I know, "but you don't have to be here." I don't.
I'm just pointing out that I certainly wouldn't want to pay
a site that (however it came about) preferences exposure
of those factions/ideas/people that shell out more money.
It's...well it's antithetical to the values we supposedly hold.

To be clear, I don't think the star member thing is as big a
contributor to the climate here as the fact that whole
hide/jury system snowballs when groups of people are
involved. The groups with less numbers will ultimately be
forced out, since each hide makes it that much more
likely for an even more biased jury next time. I think that
has been the main driving force. Alerts should be
transparent (right to know your accuser) and juries
should have some form of transparency too. Perhaps just
a list of "These were the seven people on the jury."
It doesn't have to say who went which way.

I'm sure there's problems with some of those ideas, but
hey, at least I'm thinking.

[DemonGoddess]

3. Thing is, it's not been debunked

I see it as a grandstanding maneuver, on the part of Sanders and his campaign.

[Her Sister]

4. yet it was Hidden

With the excuse that it was debunked!!

Way to try to stop the discussion in its tracks!

[Buzz Clik]

8. Objectivity and rational thinking are not prerequisite for jury service.

Duh.

[Buzz Clik]

7. The Sanders crowd still outnumbers us significantly

Their most expedient way of dealing with the truth they do not like is to hide it from view.

I had TEN posts alerted yesterday over the same issue, but only one hide.

Keep pressing on. At least Skinner recognized the problem and we are no longer sent on vacations.

[Her Sister]

10. Yes you're right! Thanks!

It did get most of the rec's after being hidden. So Thank YOU HRC GROUP!

THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!!

[BlueMTexpat]

18. I just went over and gave it one.

I went offline before you posted it.

Boy, some are very sensitive about their Holy One Who Can Can Do No Wrong.

Can you imagine how they would react to a non-stop full-on GOP smear machine? These stories at least contain fact. GOPers are never constrained by facts. Sander supporters would go bonkers.

[Her Sister]

23. Ah Thank you!!! Did you see Snaggle person response/comment?

Coming to HRC Group to put is in our place!! Probably person that reported it to the juries!
They seem to take it for granted that the juries are going to consist mostly of BS supporters.
Most HIDE votes did not even bother to comment.
Just F*ing HIDE because! just Because!

[BlueMTexpat]

24. Some BS supporters seem to be every

bit as authoritarian as the most authoritarian of rulers described in Orwell's books.

The irony is that they do not even see that. Or if they do see it, they ignore it because their cause is the Only Noble Cause.

The tyranny of The Left.

[Arkansas Granny]

11. Yes, that's it in a nutshell. I expect that many of the Sanders crowd will be leaving as soon

as Hillary secures the nomination. Until then, things are going to get ugly as desperation sets in.

[LisaM]

13. Who alerts something just because they don't LIKE it?

I have sent one alert in 15 years. I think it was in 2008.

[GusBob]

12. Under a petulant self righteous totalitarian system

Only one point of view is allowed. To speak poorly of the exalted leader is strictly forbidden

One of the hallmarks of socialism

[Her Sister]

25. It's scary!

This. SuperDelegate Hitlists. Supporter hit- lists.

How come it is so easy for them to go there!

If they're doing this now imagine if he became Prez.

[Gothmog]

14. Some dislike facts that they disagree with

The best way to deal with facts that you do not like is to prove these facts wrong.

[Her Sister]

15. So Glad we are still talking about it!

Trying to stop us! argh!!

Snaggle person acting so self-righteous and DECIDING the matter done with!!! Only comment in the thread.

This is HRC Group, Matter still developing. NOT DONE! Too bad it doesn't look good on the BS side! Too bad the whole she-bang backfired!

[Koinos]

16. The "truth" is whatever they (the majority) happen to believe it is at the time.

That sounds more like religion than critical thinking or scientific method to me.

[NurseJackie]

17. That means it's true. It's a seal of authenticity.

[Her Sister]

20. Totally! right!?

And it becomes even more interesting!! Way to pique our curiosity!

[NurseJackie]

21. I always make an effort to reveal the contents of hidden posts!

Hiding them just makes them more interesting (even if I can't reply.)

[Her Sister]

26. What was wrong with that article?

Or source? http://www.dailynewsbin.com/

[NurseJackie]

31. Absolutely nothing ...

... except to Bernie fans who don't like the truth.

[leftofcool]

19. It was not debunked! Pope did not invite him and he is not speaking to anyone

He was invited by a guy named Sachs and did not follow protocol.

[Her Sister]

27. and this guy Sachs happens to be a foreign matters advisor

to BS!!!!

Editors note:Jeffrey Sachs is director of the Earth Institute at Columbia University. He is a foreign policy adviser to Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders. The views expressed are his own.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/09/opinions/sanders-change-candidate-sachs/

Writes a lot of negative stuff about the Clintons.

[SunSeeker]

34. Holy shit. Thanks for the link.

[Trenzalore]

29. The daily obsession with Rachel Maddow

Whenever she reports something mildly unflattering to Bernie they get really really crazy

[Iamaartist]

30. Why its been exposed already.......all over the internet

Gee do we have any rights freedom its called ...they cant face the truth....

[dlwickham]

32. I was on the jury yesterday that let a similar post stay u

The jury system is a joke and it's beyond broken

[liberal N proud]

33. It wasn't favorable to BS

And the BSER'S will not let it stand.

[SunSeeker]

35. The censorship of Democrats supporting a Democrat on Democratic Underground . . .

...shows DU has lost it's way.

[Cha]

39. There should be no censorship except against TOS.. the jury system is still FUBARED.. the

only thing that's different now is .. members are not getting shuttled out on enforced time outs because they dare to support a Democrat on Democratic Underground.

[DavidDvorkin]

37. You offended the acolytes.

[seabeyond]

38. Sometimes, life jsut isn't fair sister. Especially if you are part of the minority on DU.

We do NOT level the playing field here on DU. It allows the majority to be comfortable in rule.

We ALL pretty much know this.

[wisteria]

40. Unfair

Obviously, Sander's supporters didn't like your opinion. But, if you are going to participate as a juror, you should be required to explain the vote you make. Otherwise, those jurors not providing an explanation appear to be thinned skinned and vindictive.