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Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
Sat May 18, 2013, 12:54 PM May 2013

Guatemala’s Ríos Montt Genocide Conviction Omen for US Presidents and Their Assassins

Guatemala’s Ríos Montt Genocide Conviction Omen for US Presidents and Their Assassins
by Jay Janson / May 18th, 2013


José Efraín Ríos Montt began the his political and military career as a young officer taking part in the bloody successful CIA-organized coup against the first democratically elected president in Guatemalan history that was ordered by President Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1954. Two years earlier he had attended what peace activists call, the ‘US School for Assassins,’ namely, the long infamous School of the Americas. He ended his career a few days ago, convicted of genocide by the Guatemalan court he once controlled as president and dictator.

~snip~
Once the US is no longer overwhelmingly powerful, and American elitists no longer enjoy immunity, their crimes against humanity will be prosecuted as was the genocide committed by Ríos Montt, a loutish butcher employed by who and what everyone knows. Everyone! If one of Al Capone’s triggermen was on trial for murder, who was more importantly guilty, the triggerman, who was only one of the Mafia Don’s many triggermen convicted, or Mafia don Al Capone himself?

Eventually, if not sooner, given the fact that there is no time limitation on prosecution of genocide, and the coming inevitable restitution of logic and law in public affairs, one can expect prosecution of Americans, and not just Americans in high office serving that “financial element in the circles of power that has owned the government since the days of Andrew Jackson” as President Franklin Delano Roosevelt quipped to his friend Colonel House in 1932. (One might also like to recall that at the time FDR, in confidence, noted his secondary importance to that “financial element,” a tightly inclusive group of his of his friends and acquaintances and captains of industry and banking were, as a block, investing in the cheap labor of a financially prostate Nazi Germany and building its Wehrmacht up to number one military force in the world in full knowledge of Hitler’s plan for the Soviet Union and European Jews.)

If one confines oneself to researching the well published documentation of crimes against humanity during the administrations of the presidents that followed Franklin Delano Roosevelt, the last American president, who, as an aristocrat, had some influence among his wealthy peers, it becomes very clear why eminent historian Prof. Noam Chomsky of M.I.T. can say, without provoking much negative outcry, “If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged.” Prof. Chomsky followed this statement with listing the crimes against humanity of each of these presidents he had stated would be condemned by Nuremberg Law to the gallows, and has since occasionally updated the list to include subsequent new US presidents. A hard rain is going to fall in America one day.

More:
http://dissidentvoice.org/2013/05/guatemalas-rios-montt-genocide-conviction-omen-for-us-presidents-and-their-assassins/

Good reads:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101663855

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Guatemala’s Ríos Montt Genocide Conviction Omen for US Presidents and Their Assassins (Original Post) Judi Lynn May 2013 OP
One can hope naaman fletcher May 2013 #1
It's truly sad. Never ever expected the current President to allow this obscenity Judi Lynn May 2013 #2
Nations, and their leaders, will always act in what they perceive to be their best interests. Flatulo May 2013 #3
Wonderful article! ocpagu May 2013 #4
Some in the U.S. government hated him for years before his assassination. Judi Lynn May 2013 #5
 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
1. One can hope
Sat May 18, 2013, 12:56 PM
May 2013

but I am not optimistic about it. They system draws in all the US political leaders so that they protect each other. For example, Obama could never let Bush/Cheney be prosecuted because he is now guilty as well.

It's like a gang initiation where you are forced to commit a murder before joining.

Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
2. It's truly sad. Never ever expected the current President to allow this obscenity
Sun May 19, 2013, 05:58 AM
May 2013

during his watch. I actually expected him to be far better than the others.

I'm not willing to give up long term hope, however. Can't do it. One day someone's going to beat the system and drive them all insane by being a good person.

 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
3. Nations, and their leaders, will always act in what they perceive to be their best interests.
Sun May 19, 2013, 07:19 AM
May 2013

The challenge is to change the thinking so that the conventional wisdom errs towards non-interference on other countrie's affairs. Think of the money and lives we'd save if only we'd mind our own damn business.

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
4. Wonderful article!
Sun May 19, 2013, 07:54 PM
May 2013

It's a very good summarization with objective, straight, undeniable points. I also loved Martin Luther King's quotes in the last paragraph:

"Look across the seas and see individual capitalists of the West investing huge sums of money in Asia, Africa, and South America, only to take the profits out with no concern for the social betterment of the country. This is a role our nation has taken, … refusing to give up the privileges and the pleasures that comes from the immense profits of overseas investments. This is not just.” … The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today is my own government."

Thanks, Judi.

Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
5. Some in the U.S. government hated him for years before his assassination.
Mon May 20, 2013, 12:37 AM
May 2013

He was speaking the truth and they just didn't like that.

The head of the F.B.I. bugged his phone, rooms, any thing, any event they could invade, trying to get material they could use against him to make him lose respect in the eyes of his fellow man/woman.

That's really low, isn't it? It's exactly the way they treat leaders in other countries they don't like, as well.

You wouldn't expect such large governments to be so small, so petty, so creepy.

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