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Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
Wed May 29, 2013, 10:50 PM May 2013

Venezuela's Bigger Problem

Actually, it's a problem for other countries as well: Chile comes to mind, for instance. The problem? Overdependence on commodity exports.
A lot of pixels get burned out in this place talking about internal stuff re Venezuela, and I've been guilty right along with everyone else around here. But whether Chavez was corrupt or Capriles deserves to be impeached for not attending to his duties as governor is for the people of Venezuela (or Capriles' province) to decide.
Some things, however, can be addressed objectively. One of these is that if the election of Maduro was reasonably clean, say, Obama should recognize it, regardless of being called a devil or any other name by Maduro.
Another of these is that Venezuela is entirely dependent on oil for its export earnings. As I said, it shares this overdependence on raw materials earnings with a lot of other countries. And to be crystal clear so this doesn't get involved in just the issue of Chavez, it predated his rule as a problem for Venezuela and there is no evidence that I can find that his opposition understands the problem either.
Which isn't surprising, as I don't think it's appreciated just how bad this is as a problem.
The reasons it's bad, and particularly so for Venezuela, are as follows:

1 - "The Resource Curse": this is a well-known drawback to economies like Venezuela. The basic idea here is pretty simple: dependence on a single commodity distorts both the politics and economics of a place, since everything revolves around the resource in question. Venezuela has this big time, as the major focus of the government's political and economic energy is PDVSA, and the distribution of its earnings. Who controls PDVSA controls Venezuela. This makes politics a zero-sum, binary game. This usually means you don't get republican government (see, for instance, Saudi Arabia or any of the other Middle Eastern states for the most part), but despite coup attempts by Chavez in '92 and his opponents at least twice during his rule, the republic has survived for decades. How long this will last is anyone's guess, but it's not at all a given that it will last. Too much revolves around the control of that one entity and the resource it controls. 94% too much.
2 - "The Resource Curse", Part Two: The above is the part of the resource curse that usually gets written about, but there's a second problem with it: the price of raw materials isn't set by small countries with economies that are entirely dependent on that resource. They get set by the buyers: the developed economies that take those raw materials and turn them into useful products. In the case of oil, the usefulness of oil is truly amazing: it's used as fuel in many different forms (gasoline, jet fuel, heating oil, kerosene), in asphalt, which itself is used for both road paving and roof shingles, in plastics, which are used everywhere now, in synthetic fibers for clothing, to make wax in all its various forms, to make fertilizer, to make cosmetics like mineral oil, baby oil, and petroleum jelly; the list goes on and on.
Most of these products are made in developed economies rather than in the resource-dependent countries from which the oil is extracted.
Raw materials prices don't generally rise as fast as inflation. At best, like gold, they rise at the same rate as the general price level. Oil is an exception: over the long term it tends to rise at a faster pace than inflation. This is probably due to its usefulness in all of those products I just listed above. Those products were developed over time, and as each one was developed, it increased the usefulness of oil, which would of course put upward pressure on its price.
But substitution can take place in any of those products. To take two examples: in electricity generation, I have pointed out in a thread in the Environment & Energy group that oil is now used far less than wind as a fuel source. In fibers, cotton made a comeback after having been threatened by synthetic fibers. That's just two examples; go down the list of products and you can pretty easily think up substitutes for oil based products in all of them.
As oil's price rises, those substitutes become more attractive. This is what happened in electricity generation, where the per btu price of oil is now so high in relation to natural gas that it has now become a trivial fuel source in that area as utilities have switched out of oil to natural gas (while at the same time increasing their use of wind energy as well).
In short: just because oil's price has risen faster than inflation in the past doesn't mean that will happen in the future. And the threat to oil isn't just its price: it's that it is, quite literally, lethal to the planet when it's burned. At some point in the not-too-distant future the pressure to make oil obsolete as a fuel is going to become massive. For now, the fossil fuel lobbyists have been winning more than they lose, but their situation reminds me a lot of what happened with the cigarette companies, who also seemed invincible for decades. At some point something happens that changes everything, and suddenly the political hammer crashes down on the formerly invincible industry. As with cigarettes, the problem is known. And as it was with cigarettes for a long time, the evidence of lethality is building. That evidence can't be denied forever.
Venezuela is on the wrong side of this. And it has no control over the outcome. In the end, it's a small, backward economy. When push comes to shove and oil needs to be discarded as a fuel, the effect this will have on Venezuela's economy won't be anyone's concern in the developed world. It will be left behind.
Right now it's on the next-to-last rung of the international economic order: a supply region, that is, a place that produces one or a few raw materials for use by the world's developed economies. Once oil is discarded, it will be demoted to the last rung of the international economic order: it will be a bypassed place, a place that doesn't produce anything anyone else wants to buy.
Why can I categorically say that? Because, as noted above, 94% of its export earnings come from oil. As of right now Venezuela isn't selling anything else to the outside world but oil. So, what happens if because of CO2 the world rapidly moves to renewables and conservation, far more rapidly than anyone is now expecting? It would be an unmitigated disaster for Venezuela.
(Eritrea is probably the best example of a bypassed place these days.)
3 - Outsized Leverage to the Price: But let's get back to price. Venezuela has a very particular problem with the price of oil: it sells heavy crude, sludgy stuff that's hard to refine. This is a good thing in a way, since this kind of oil is ideal for being turned into a multiplicity of oil-based products, much more so than light oil. The very disadvantage of having to go through many steps to be refined into fuels of various sorts also means it can be refined into more kinds of fuels than light oil, and can be turned into more products along the way as well. But it also means the break-even price, that is, the price over the cost to refine and extract it, is also pretty high. That means Venezuela is more leveraged to the oil price than, say, Saudi Arabia, where the cost of extraction is certainly much lower, and which also produces some lighter grades of oil, which cuts the cost of refining it.
Leverage to the price means this: say crude oil sells for 90/barrel. If Saudi Arabia can produce it for a cost of 15/barrel, then a price cut from 90 to 60 cuts its income per barrel from 75 to 45. Not a good thing, but at least you're still making something decent.
But if your break-even is 40, which is more or less Venezuela's (see chart embedded in this article for the production break-even costs of various oil producers), then a cut from 90 to 60 means a drop in your profit from 50 per barrel to 20 per barrel. Or: a one third decline in the price produces a 60% decline in your net profit.
That's leverage to the price.
The problem is over the long term, the amount you get for selling any raw material is a little bit over the cost, since over the long term that's all anyone is going to be willing to pay. Venezuela's had a run of luck the past decade or so, the same run of luck as Chile when it comes to copper: China has been rapidly industrializing and therefore vacuuming up resources from all over the globe at a very rapid rate, which has supported the price of everything, even if, like Venezuela, most of what you sell goes to the US. That effect was of course magnified by its leverage to the price: a rise of 30 bucks to 120 would, after all, raise Venezuela's net profit from 50 to 80 per barrel, a 60% increase.
Point being, as a result of China's influence on the oil price Venezuela has up to now been on the good side of its leverage to the price. But that won't last forever.
4 - Politics: As the article cited above re break-even costs shows, the US is concerned, as it always is, with being too dependent on oil for its energy, and you can be sure all those tax credits going to renewable sources are in place in part to help out with that problem. Substitution via alternate sources of energy or via conservation (replacement of incandescent bulbs by CFLs and LEDs, for one example) is going to continue, and will put relentless downward pressure on the price of oil and other fossil fuels.
Particular to Venezuela is that Mexico also produces heavy grades, and as a result of the ongoing hostility between the US and Venezuela the US has a big incentive to use Mexico's oil instead of Venezuela's (http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/01/17519026-how-the-us-oil-gas-boom-could-shake-up-global-order?lite). Look for lots of deals to be signed in the next few years aimed at increasing Mexico's oil production with American help.

Chavez's rule coincided with a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for Venezuela to make a crapload of money from its oil and use that to finance a move in its economy away from that total dependence on its price. That opportunity has been missed so far, and Maduro may not have much time left; it may be gone sooner than anyone is expecting. Even if oil isn't discarded as a fuel source (which I know seems unlikely now, but things like this have a way of changing very fast once the momentum gets going), if the shale oil boom now underway drops the global price of oil significantly, Venezuela will still suffer mightily because of its leverage to the oil price, as noted above.
The point is not that any one of these risks, political (Mexico), economic (oil price) or environmental (CO2) will materialize. The point is all of them are risks, and all are either plausible or happening right now, and should therefore be addressed by Venezuela's leadership. Chavez and now Maduro have been in power for nearly a decade and a half, more than enough time to have lowered that 94% dependence on oil for its export earnings.
Putting all your eggs in one basket is never a good idea. Inheriting that problem from your predecessors and proceeding to not only ignore it but put all your newly hatched eggs in there too is completely irresponsible. Maduro's single most important task is to start selling something to the rest of the world besides oil, in non-trivial amounts. Like, now.

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Venezuela's Bigger Problem (Original Post) Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 OP
" if the shale oil boom now underway drops the global price of oil significantly" Warren Stupidity May 2013 #1
Drilling would continue for a while. Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #2
They would collapse in a fairly short time. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #8
I don't necessarily disagree with you that they should start moving away Catherina May 2013 #3
Exports are needed to pay for imports that cannot be satisfied within the nation Demeter May 2013 #4
Does anyone really need bananas or diamonds? Catherina May 2013 #5
No country is an island unto itself, any more than a person is. Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #9
Juche, anyone? Socialistlemur May 2013 #6
Correction: Heavy crude doesn't yield a product advantage Socialistlemur May 2013 #7
Interesting. Thanks for the info. n/t Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #10
Back to take a small victory lap Benton D Struckcheon Feb 2019 #11
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
1. " if the shale oil boom now underway drops the global price of oil significantly"
Wed May 29, 2013, 11:02 PM
May 2013

it can't. Shale oil is expensive oil. Cheap oil benefits from "shale oil prices" but if the price drops shale oil production falls off a cliff, a shortage occurs, we have a market malfunction, and the price goes back up and shale oil production resumes.

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
2. Drilling would continue for a while.
Wed May 29, 2013, 11:04 PM
May 2013

You don't just turn those things on and off like a toaster oven, after all. And once turned off, you still have to work through the supply created before the price can rise again.
In commodities, high prices are the cure for high prices and vice versa, but commodity price cycles are multi-year phenomena.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
8. They would collapse in a fairly short time.
Thu May 30, 2013, 07:19 AM
May 2013

But yes indeed "just a dip" in prices wouldn't kill of shale, nor would it devastate the "legacy" producers like Vz. A significant drop has the feedback loop built into it that I described that, if the drop is supply based rather than demand, shuts off the excess supply, in a matter of months, not years, restores prices, and as they reach shale profitability, resumes shale production.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
3. I don't necessarily disagree with you that they should start moving away
Thu May 30, 2013, 12:12 AM
May 2013

and I believe they are trying to build their country up to a point where they'll be self-sufficient within the ALBA bloc but their priority has been on feeding people and, just as importantly, educating them. It takes a lot of time for eggs to hatch and it's not as if they had an easy time these past 16 years either. Some of the land is only just now recovering from the heavy use of pesticides big plantations had used and Maduro is planning to use those for crops.

This may be a simplistic question but why do you feel they need to even have export earnings later on? What's wrong with building up the country now, while the oil money is good and then living simply, on their own products + ALBA products exchanged in Sucre, within their means?

There's a whole Marxist Dependency theory on this subject, that if a less developed country wants to develop, it needs to take a different path than industrialized nations and not play the dance of global markets. When you stay in the export game, you start being dependent on the capital of whoever is importing your goods and the relationship is never equal.

It's not something I give a lot of thought to, especially for other countries, because none of them are asking for my opinion but I find your post interesting and appreciate the thought you put into it. My question may seem very simplistic to you, stupid even but why does any country need to export anything? I understand how some do, and I understand how some countries who refuse to produce certain things can't survive without imports (for example England which won't produce food and choose instead to concentrate on manufacturing to export) but this led to much plundering, at gunpoint even, of other countries, because so-called developed countries don't want to pay a fair price for the imports. If they did, they wouldn't be on top anymore. The global game's all about getting everything you can for as cheap as you can and if they won't give it to you, force them to.

I have the impression that many countries in Latin America, whose indigenous populations are rising and whose goods were exported for hundreds of years, want a different way of life, one closer to their roots and traditions. I could be wrong, it's not something I've given much thought to.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
4. Exports are needed to pay for imports that cannot be satisfied within the nation
Thu May 30, 2013, 01:05 AM
May 2013

Example: bananas in USA, or diamonds.

And there's something to be said for seeing what the other nations have come up with: iPhones, fashion, arts, etc.

But I agree that taking care of internal needs ought to come first, no matter which nation is under discussion.

And those internal needs should be satisfied as "greenly" as possible.

Then perhaps one can preach to the "heathens". If only the US would lead the way on this...

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
5. Does anyone really need bananas or diamonds?
Thu May 30, 2013, 02:32 AM
May 2013

That's the whole modern industrial cycle of exploitation that relies on importing-exporting resources that Derrick Jensen denounces in his books, especially Endgame, as destructively unsustainable. All that energy to import/export. All the capital involved and then needing to protect that capital and exploiting so that capital doesn't lose value. Why? If I had my way, we'd all be living in sustainable villages, growing our own food, weaving our own clothes indigenous-style but I know it's not something that will happen until it's forced on us by catastrophes we caused. 50-80 years on this earth is what we get, do we really need to see what the Italians are wearing this season, or what an artist in India is doing? I know it's *fun* and all but do we really need to? Does it provide any real quality of life? Does it mean anything at the end when you're lying in a box staring at your 10 toes for all eternity? Will it matter that you were able to fly to Paris in 3 hours instead of 8? We're killing this earth and killing ourselves while we're at it. Why? It doesn't even matter to ask you these things because no matter what you answer, or even if you laugh, the best we can hope for right now is what you wrote

- taking care of internal needs ought to come first, no matter which nation is under discussion.

- And those internal needs should be satisfied as "greenly" as possible.

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
9. No country is an island unto itself, any more than a person is.
Thu May 30, 2013, 07:22 AM
May 2013

Some food Venezuela is going to need to import no matter what. Some materials: if it needs bauxite for aluminum, it will need that from, say, Jamaica. Jamaica will want to get paid.
And so on. You write like these things are a choice. They're not. They arise naturally in the course of living, whether for people or for larger entities, from neighborhoods all the way up to nation-states. At every step of the way the entity in question needs to sell something to someone else in order to get something back it can't make for itself. No one is or ever will be entirely self-sufficient.

Socialistlemur

(770 posts)
6. Juche, anyone?
Thu May 30, 2013, 03:35 AM
May 2013

Sounds like you have been reading the same text used by Kim Il Sung to develop Juche? It's not a viable strategy.

Socialistlemur

(770 posts)
7. Correction: Heavy crude doesn't yield a product advantage
Thu May 30, 2013, 04:31 AM
May 2013

Your post is very good. I have been trying to make the point that Venezuela suffers from a very bad case of Dutch disease. I keep a close eye on the country's economic developments and it seems they may be headed towards a bond default in the future due to the really juvenile way they manage the economy.

Regarding the heavy oil, it's not really a better product. It doesn't yield more. The bulk of the Faja del Orinoco reserves are about 8 degrees API. This is almost identical to the Alberta tar sand "crude". The oil can be upgraded in Venezuela, using cokers, and this destroys about 20 % of the volume, which becomes a really messy product called coke. Coke is dirty coal in many senses. The other fraction has to be stabilized with hydrogen, and this yields a syncrude. The more hydrogen is added the more synthetic crude is produced. But this synthetic has to be designed to be acceptable to the refineries. I won't get into all the chemistry and marketing aspects, but I can conclude that having such large poor quality crude reserves is t exactly an advantage versus having a N Arab Medium crude.

I've mentioned before in several blogs that its possible Rafael Ramirez, PDVSAs president, lied to Chavez about these details. I say it because the numbers don't add up. Chavez made commitments and behaved as if he was in control of Saudi Arabia. But he's not. This oil is hard to extract, it has to be transported from the Faja to the coast, and it has to be upgraded properly. I saw their plans many times, and they were developed by very inexperienced staff. They were full of holes, and some of their ideas were incredibly impractical. For example they wanted to build a huge upgrading center on the Orinoco river - upstream of where the river can be navigated safely. Then the syncrude was to be shipped by pipeline to the Araya tanker loading terminal they had touted. A truly bizarre solution. Apparently a plan developed by college professors who looked at the need for employment, and ignored completely environmental concerns as well as economics. Where is that plan now? In the waste basket.

These guys need a heavy does of reality and can't continue to behave as if they were super rich. They aren't. They have a closing window as you say. This is critical. And they seem to be wasting their resources with a bunch of inept ministers and a monumentally incompetent PDVSA president chanting slogans as they sink. It's pathetic.

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
11. Back to take a small victory lap
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 10:03 PM
Feb 2019

I remembered writing this thing a few years ago. Now it's all come to pass. The shale oil boom here in the US is real, and their are alternate sources for the heavy oil Venezuela sells. And electric car sales are continuing to increase rapidly.
It's all over for them.
I'm sure there's still apologists for the looters running Venezuela. Back when I wrote this I had some sympathy for them, but at this point all that can be said of them is they have plenty of excuses, but there's no excuse for anyone who still defends them.

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