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Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
Thu May 31, 2012, 05:33 PM May 2012

Falkland Islands: Argentina Ambassador Says Self-Determination 'Does Not Apply' To Territory

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/05/17/argentina-ambassador-castro-lse_n_1525073.html

Speaking at a discussion on Anglo-Argentine relations hosted by the London School of Economics on Thursday evening, Alicia Castro said "the principle of self-determination does not apply to the special and particular colonial case" of the Falklands.

"Our government is well-known for policies of human rights. Argentina supports in general the principle of self-determination as established by the UN charter but not every human community is considered to possess this right [of self-determination]," she said.

She told her audience that Argentina was "very unhappy to have a colonial enclave in the south of our continent". The dispute between the UK and Argentina over the sovereignty of those islands, she said, was a "clash of principles".

The ambassador issued a warning on the UK's alleged deployment of a nuclear submarine in the region, describing it as tantamount to using "weapons of mass destruction".

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Falkland Islands: Argentina Ambassador Says Self-Determination 'Does Not Apply' To Territory (Original Post) Bacchus4.0 May 2012 OP
"colonial outpost" naaman fletcher May 2012 #1
Those who paint Argentina as a wronged party are ignorant of history ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #3
Argentina's long history of human rights is EXTREMELY well known lol nt msongs May 2012 #2
Cant even get her definitions right. folcrom May 2012 #4
 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
1. "colonial outpost"
Thu May 31, 2012, 07:20 PM
May 2012

"She told her audience that Argentina was "very unhappy to have a colonial enclave in the south of our continent"."

They would prefer their own colonial outpost. The easy solution of course is a vote of the people. If Argentina still can't abide by a "colonial outpost" then let the Falklands be independent.

Of course, Argentina has already tried to take the islands by force and will probably try again, cheered on by their own imperialist allies here on this list who are against the UN declaration on human rights.

folcrom

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4. Cant even get her definitions right.
Thu May 31, 2012, 10:31 PM
May 2012

An enclave by definition is a small region of land surrounded on at least 3 sides by one country.
in this case Argentina.

As a group of islands 460 or so kilometers of the coast of South America, The Falklands cannot be considered an enclave.

They are an archipelago.

And based upon their history and the fact that some of the islanders, quite a few in fact can trace their ancestry back to the original settlers in the 1820's and earlier, which is even prior to the 1st 1832 Argentine invasion, they most certainly have the right to self determination.

Argentina signed away their rights to the Islands in the 1850 Argentine/Brittish peace agreement.
Spain relinquished their rights to the islands in 1863, so Argentina could not have enherited the rights to them in the first place.

It is the height of arrogance that Argentina would take the Falkland Islands away from the very people who live their
and do so most definately against their wishes.

The original 1982 invasion by Argentina included plans for "ethnic" cleansing. They were going to round up the islanders and dump them in Montivedao. Then replace them with thousands of loyal Argentines. It was only the swift reaction of the British in swiflty putting their task force into action that foiled Argentina's dispicable plans.

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